They Come To Teach Us
And behold their glittering minds:
“You shouldn’t even have an opinion about this.”
The above exchange was filmed at the Boston Free Speech Rally, August 19. A longer, even more educational version, with lots of additional shoving and liveliness, is embedded below the fold. And remember, these Children of Marcuse, the ones demanding “empathy” while laughing at accounts of random beatings, have been educated, quite thoroughly.
Update, via the comments:
The longer video does, I think, capture a basic dynamic, a root pathology.
While professing their compassion and high-mindedness, and therefore their superiority, the Mao-lings seem determined to out-group Polite Guy and tar him as an interloper, a “white supremacist,” etc., based on nothing at all, except for the fact that he’s white. When this characterisation fails as implausible, and Polite Guy remains polite and pointedly unthreatening, the Mao-lings then get even more hostile and menacing, before assaulting him from behind as he’s trying to leave. Presumably because he made their preposterous self-image more difficult to sustain. And so he must pay.
But such is Mao-ling psychodrama. There’s no point trying to engage with it rationally, except to reveal what it is, and no reward for being civil. It’s just a ball of vanity and malice. And so the Mao-lings who are shrieking at Polite Guy demand to know, “When have you ever been oppressed?” And they ask this while laughing at his assault, mocking his politeness, and shortly before assaulting him themselves.
Update 2:
In the comments, Daniel Ream notes,
We have entire institutions dedicated to producing hordes of young people with a kind of artificial cluster B personality disorder.
Well, yes. And I suppose that if you were feeling charitable, which may be a big ask, you might register the sadness of it all. In that, if you take lots of young people who are credulous and/or narcissistic, or who actually have cluster B personalities, and whose expectations of status are at odds with their capabilities – and you tell them, repeatedly, for years, that any personal failure or shortcoming, any difficulty or mental discomfort, is a result of oppression and therefore someone else’s fault, someone they should punish, then the behaviour seen above will tend to be the result. That, or something very much like it.
And once you’ve cultivated this level of dysfunction, this self-flattery and vindictiveness, it’s hard to see how it can be undone. Those seduced by it may well remain broken.
Via Obnoxio.
Peter Sellers stage whisper: “There used to be a decency, but I had it surgically removed!”
I doubt it. This isn’t a case of teenage rage, the women in the video are in their twenties.
The etiology for cluster B personality disorders is that the child’s emotional development essentially ceases at the time of the trauma, because their entire psyche becomes dedicated to developing coping mechanisms. With practice, it’s often possible to estimate when someone was traumatized by their overall level of emotional maturity.
There are groups for which constant swearing is more the norm, and one would be those with a cluster B personality disorder as Daniel indicates
It’s not so much that BPD, etc. implies swearing as much as it implies emotional immaturity, being permanently stuck as an emotional adolescent. For some, adolescence comes with an awful lot of acting out so as to shock Daddy. So with apologies to Tim, I contend it’s very much a case of teenage rage. These people will be teenagers for the rest of their life.
These people will be teenagers for the rest of their life.
That’s going to get quite sad, quite soon.
Will there be a flickering of recognition, of embarrassment, of remorse?
I wonder. I recall when the Evergreen (I think, I’m losing track of all the crazy) struggle session video came out, all the woke people complained that the evil right-wing was evilly using the video to, er, show people reality. So although they pathetically rationalise their behaviour within their own ideological conspiracy beliefs they have some conception of how this plays in the real world.
I wonder, have the righteous social justice warriors have demanded the linked video be taken down yet – claiming “privacy rights” or some such rubbish?
It’s not so much that BPD, etc. implies swearing as much as it implies emotional immaturity, being permanently stuck as an emotional adolescent. For some, adolescence comes with an awful lot of acting out so as to shock Daddy. So with apologies to Tim, I contend it’s very much a case of teenage rage. These people will be teenagers for the rest of their life.
Yup, that all sounds rather familiar.
Will there be a flickering of recognition, of embarrassment, of remorse?
No. They are sufficiently self deluded that they will view the video and see themselves as a cross between Marianne, Horatius, and the 101st at Bastogne.
OT, but I immediately thought of you guys:
Remember, kids: it’s the President who’s crazy.
I’m looking at these screeching women and wondering what in God’s name their fathers are thinking right now.
I wish I hadn’t spent all of that money sending her to that college…
I wonder, have the righteous social justice warriors demanded the linked video be taken down yet – claiming “privacy rights” or some such rubbish?
Such complaints aren’t unheard of. But that’s the flavour of the drama. One minute, it’s masks, mobs, and Sturmabteilung tactics. The next minute, it’s, “That’s just so unfair – you’re violating our self-esteem!”
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Remember our old friend Idiot Hat Guy from Occupy’s Denver contingent? He starts off with boasts of impending mob force and of how he and his comrades are going to “disallow” people from getting to work, or getting home to their children. But when he realises that he’s being revealed as the vain and selfish little prick that he is, he gets all whiny and upset, claiming that the filming of his threats somehow “violates” his rights.
This is who they are.
Sometimes there is karma for this lot.
Sometimes there is karma for this lot.
Plum shot. Maximum points.
Remember, kids: it’s the President who’s crazy.
Worth repeating.
I’m beginning to think that we have been lied to and that, in fact, you can judge a book by its cover.
Just sayin’.
So although they pathetically rationalise their behaviour within their own ideological conspiracy beliefs they have some conception of how this plays in the real world.
No. They are sufficiently self deluded that they will view the video and see themselves as a cross between Marianne, Horatius, and the 101st at Bastogne.
Let me theorize here, because I think you’re both right and both wrong.
People with BPD have psyches that are entirely, monomanically focused on Not Getting Hurt Again, which means a host of dysfunctional coping mechanisms concocted by an immature child’s brain. People with BPD, as I think Tim can attest, will cling to their “I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG” defense mechanism even in the face of overwhelming forensic evidence. I’ve seen “that video is fake” or even “that isn’t me” being used, but that’s not all that common.
More likely, they don’t think they’ve done anything wrong but they do recognize that the video makes them look bad (this is distinct from “reveals actual bad behaviour”, mind). Making them look bad is triggering because it might presage more Getting Hurt in their child-brain, and so the video has to be suppressed. What’s in the video is irrelevant; it threatens them and they’ve learned that they can defend themselves by deflecting attention away from themselves and onto you by calling you a bad person.
That sudden switch from arrogant posturing to mewling demands for sympathy? Any parent of a toddler will recognize that.
An X-ring shot. Well done, that cop.
Ironically, the champ was wearing a gas mask.
Good to see the US cops doing their job: one has the impression that lately, they have been hiding up a close, as we Scots say.
Of course, I wrote “chump”, but the spam filter was in a mischievous mood.
Gosh, that Phoenix PD riot squad seems to have what could be called a peppery temper.
but the spam filter was in a mischievous mood.
For God’s sake, don’t upset her.
[ Pulls out basket of fresh puppies as an offering. ]
Let me theorize here, because I think you’re both right and both wrong.
People with BPD have psyches…
The difficulty is that these people tend more closely to fit the diagnostic criteria for histrionic personality disorder rather than borderline personality disorder and do not see themselves as bad, or doing anything bad, whereas the borderline personality persons would.
For God’s sake, don’t upset her.
You used to be authoritarian towards the filter. What happened? Did you get a sinister, and disturbingly threatening message, like “I can’t let you do that, Dave”? Has she recruited the hench-lesbians to her side?
What happened? Did you get a sinister, and disturbingly threatening message, like “I can’t let you do that, Dave”?
There was a brief spell when, inexplicably, my own comments were being trapped by the thing too. You can imagine the indignity.
The difficulty is that these people tend more closely to fit the diagnostic criteria for […]
That’s the problem with symptom-based diagnoses instead of etiology-based ones. Distinguishing between the various cluster B disorders is fraught because of this.
To be clear, I don’t think the majority of these people are suffering from a real, diagnosable mental illness. They’re immature and have been taught a form of malignant narcissism that shares most of the symptoms with the cluster B disorders. Put these people in a context where there are immediate negative consequences for negative behaviour and they’ll change. True BPD/cluster B’s can’t.
Put these people in a context where there are immediate negative consequences for negative behaviour and they’ll change.
Sadly, as we’ve seen many times, that’s the exact opposite of what academia’s Clown Quarter does.
The paucity of such contexts is not doing society any favours, I’ll grant.
…a brief spell when, inexplicably, my own comments were being trapped by the thing too.
“Who run Bartertown?”
To be clear, I don’t think the majority of these people are suffering from a real, diagnosable mental illness.
Indeed. Some people are just arseholes.
On the “We useless Social Justice Warriors are going to throw a useless tantrum and you can’t stop us!” front, a gas-mask-wearing “protestor” kicks a tear gas canister back at the police and gets a pepper ball in the yarbles for his reward , much to the delight of the interweb smarty-pants.
“Pulls out basket of fresh puppies as an offering”
Hey, leave some for Glenn Reynolds!
These are 2nd or 3rd hand Alinsky tactics performed by people who never read Alinsky or know anyone who did. Alinsky was not about wrecking the institutions of power, but using them to his ends. The degradation of society includes the degradation of its enemies.
Regarding Mr. Yarbles, the Interwebs are having some fun with the video: http://www.dailywire.com/news/20140/top-5-versions-antifa-protester-being-hit-balls-jacob-airey?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
Jeepers.
What with their jostlingg and kicking and punching, interspersed with shouts of “you shouldn’t even have an opinion!” and “you belong over there!” is it any wonder some people say, “f*k it, I’m joining the alt-right”?
Put these people in a context where there are immediate negative consequences for negative behaviour and they’ll change.
Which is where their parents have failed them, even before ‘society’ supposedly did. More often than not, I would suggest that these children are the sum product of their parents enabling indifference.
Posted by Stuck-Record: “But history is full of temporary insanities taking over populations… I fear this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.”
The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.vm65ehvdr
I watched a clip at the first underlined Twitter page. I think the good news is that neither of the two main women involved (the one who did most of the screaming and the one who said “Good”) showed a level of commitment or of hatred that really marks them as SJWs. They would probably have acted the same way had they been Chelsea supporters facing a camera guy in a Man U shirt.
The coward in the bandana however is probably a different matter.
So, the police pretending to arrest him in order to defuse the situation… Was that a good idea? Now all these little bastards think they won; worse, they think their actions will bend the police to their will. How’s that going to help next time?
Not to mention that there’s not much difference between a phony arrest and an actual one. What if he’d have said, “No, I’m not leaving, I have the right to be here” – would they have had to give him a phony clubbing for resisting arrest? I dunno, I can’t help but feel uneasy that, whatever their reasons were, the police still came down on the side of the mob rather than help the law-abiding citizen exercise his rights.
Daniel Ream – The etiology for cluster B personality disorders is that the child’s emotional development essentially ceases at the time of the trauma, because their entire psyche becomes dedicated to developing coping mechanisms.
Could a sense of having been traumatised be artificially induced? Say, by university lecturers convincing a gullible teenager that actually, some perfectly ordinary disappointment that life served them was actually some terrible instance of oppression… I’m thinking of things like Lena Dunham deciding, years after the fact, that an unpleasant sexual encounter was actually a rape.
MC – “Some people are just arseholes.” Yep.
It’s all part of their Épater la Bourgeoisie schtick. It, along with the strangely colored hair, and self-mutilation is the obligatory uniform in their army telling the world they’re nonconformists.
Over the last few months I’ve been seeing more and more utterly undeniably obvious hipsters in more and more camouflage fabric bits of clothing, from baseball caps to trousers, sometimes with random military insignia. I keep seeing more and more with military variety epaulettes that no civilian is going to be wearing—no adult at any rate— In all such circumstances, every single wearer was quite clearly nowhere near having had any experience or interest in actually being in or of the military . . .
I’ve been among groups of ex-military on many occasions—they’re all dressed exclusively civilian adult . . .
I just tried a bit of googlemancy to see if there might be any commentary about, found nothing useful.
Has anyone run across any commentary or come up with any reasonable guesses on this oddity?
Presumably because he made their preposterous self-image more difficult to sustain. And so he must pay.
That.
Could a sense of having been traumatised be artificially induced?
I see what you’re getting at, but that’s akin to asking “is it possible to fake a broken arm?” Real PTSD is a permanent alteration of the brain’s autonomic responses because neuropsychiatry blah blah blah.
What you can do is convince sheltered adolescents who have never experienced any real hardship and are experiencing the big wide scary world out there for the first time (albeit in a university, one of the safest spaces – pun intended – one can imagine) that the anxieties they feel are Real Trauma, and that they should be feeling and acting the way Really Traumatized people do, with hysterical overreactions, demands for appeasement of their neuroses, etc.
So to club the metaphor to death, you can’t artificially induce a broken arm. You can convince a credulous person who has never actually had a broken arm that that mild bruise on the back of their forearm is a broken bone, that they should wear a cast, be entitled to opiate-based painkillers, and get all the sympathy and special treatment anyone with a broken arm should get, and anyone who points out that a mild bruise is not actually a broken arm is just being a big Hate Hate Hatey McHaterson who should be yelled at for being so callous and insensitive.
That such a person would consume limited treatment resources that would normally go to people with real broken arms, and that their ostentatious demands for consideration would diminish people’s sympathy for real people with real injuries, is also part of the metaphor.
That.
It’s not an uncommon reaction. Something not dissimilar happens in this infamous exchange between Laurie Penny and David Starkey. She interrupts his answer to a question with a gratuitous personal smear – an immensely self-satisfied claim about racism and tax avoidance. He responds and points out how revolting and dishonest she’s being, which makes her illusion of piety rather difficult to sustain in front of the audience. Laurie is then reduced to a mix of fury, humiliation and pretentious, rambling victimhood.
The debate, supposedly about national character, becomes all about her: “I really don’t appreciate being stood on stage to be personally attacked,” says she in a comically whiny voice. The fact that she started the personal attacks, needlessly, thinking it would be clever, and then lied, repeatedly, and was promptly repaid in the manner she initiated, is somehow proof of her victimhood. And it’s all because she’s a woman, of course, and so terribly, terribly brave.
What you can do is convince sheltered adolescents who have never experienced any real hardship… that they should be feeling and acting the way Really Traumatized people do, with hysterical overreactions, demands for appeasement of their neuroses, etc.
I sometimes think of it in terms of pollution. In that, the Angry Studies Industry is belching out large numbers of insufferable, dysfunctional people. Thereby stinking up the culture.
Your fellow blogger Kate MacMillan has an aphorism that nicely summarizes this: “They say the children are our future…and that’s why I’m sticking up on canned goods and ammunition.”
Incidentally, in case it’s unclear, and contrary to the Mao-lings’ hysterical fantasies, the Boston Free Speech Rally was by no means a gathering of neo-Nazis.
Laurie is then reduced to a mix of fury, humiliation and pretentious, rambling victimhood.
I thought she was going to cry. 🙂
There never appear to be that many of these Mao-lings, in the sense that the true believers who take part in protests and the like are quite small in number. What is more worrying to me is that the general population doesn’t seem able to take on board just how malevolent they are.
It seems so obvious to anyone who pays attention that the Mao-lings’ weaponisation of ‘niceness’ is bogus and totally at odds with traditional morality. Yet huge numbers of ordinary people seem to swallow this pose whole, just as they can’t see that Corbyn and Sanders are talentless charlatans.
I keep waiting for the penny to drop that you can’t appease these people and that they don’t accept apologies because they don’t really care about forgiveness so much as power. But the hard left’s ability to generate sympathy for its lies keeps rolling on.
take on board just how malevolent they are.
A point that I hope I’ve underlined over the years.
that you can’t appease these people and that they don’t accept apologies because they don’t really care about forgiveness so much as power.
That too. See, for instance, this, at DePauw University.
More karma, or, “Everyone I see is a nazi”.
However, if Mr. Tattoo McPiercehead is taken out by a little booboo like that, I don’t think antifa are exactly Dr. Klahn’s Fighting Force of Extraordinary Magnitude.
“Everyone I see is a nazi”.
From what I can make out, his crime was that he wouldn’t denounce all white people on demand.
…his crime was that he wouldn’t denounce all white people on demand…
Yes, as always, wrongthought among party members must not go unpunished. Clearly he was not a 33rd degree Woke.
So, the police pretending to arrest him in order to defuse the situation… Was that a good idea? Now all these little bastards think they won; worse, they think their actions will bend the police to their will. How’s that going to help next time?
Not to mention that there’s not much difference between a phony arrest and an actual one. What if he’d have said, “No, I’m not leaving, I have the right to be here” – would they have had to give him a phony clubbing for resisting arrest? I dunno, I can’t help but feel uneasy that, whatever their reasons were, the police still came down on the side of the mob rather than help the law-abiding citizen exercise his rights.
This. It’s not just the little bastards who think they have won. The police, or whomever thought to call/send the police to the “rescue”, will insist that they are being the “responsible” ones. The “grown ups” who are above it all. They walk away shaking their heads at the childish behavior that has forced them, ever so reluctantly to once again come in like Jesus Peacemakers ™ and calm the waters. They pretend/lie to themselves that they are doing the good work on the side of “reason” all the while, as Dr. T says, handing the mob a victory.
It disturbs me how often I find myself using irony/scare quotes but the absurdities of what goes on anymore, combined with the Orwellian erosion/deterioration/destruction/obfuscation of language I just don’t understand how to differentiate the current meaning of words from what I and the folks at Merriam-Webster understand them to mean. Of course, Google is taking that job away from them…[ Movie Narrator Voice ] In a world where the word ‘literally’ has ceased to literally mean ‘literally’…