Friday Ephemera (744)
Dublin man. || Oh dear. || Best not to dawdle, I think. || Your bedroom buddy. || His is bigger. || Theirs is bigger, too. || Houseguest. || A game about making wigs (and buying hair, and drones, and a war against hats). Previously. || It was a day of ups and downs. || Alas, I don’t know the name for this. || Well, that escalated quickly. || Luckily, he had a sandal. || At last, a guide to vomiting. || Nommy-nommy-nom. || No, I have no idea. || Ideal teacher material. || Satellite made of wood. || How to move the Moon (while melting quite a bit of it). || “I’m pressure. I’m pressurelicious.” || Project Sundial. || The progressive retail experience, parts 591, 592, 593, and 594. || He says fortune smiled upon him. || Bigfoot. || Fun for all the family. || And finally, oh don’t pull that face, you want one and you know it.
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@David, who over on X/Twitter said:
<raises hand, tentatively…> Uhmmmmm… David? I hate to point out to you that we mostly already do.
Which is why everything has been going to shit, of late.
Fine, but if some fraction of the populace is likely to give in to temptation, then the temptations are a problem to be addressed.
And ethnically Christian record executives have lily white hands?
@pst314, who said:
You’re doing performative “whataboutism”, there pst314. That record executives were making bank while polluting the commons wasn’t the point; the point was, the Jewish executives seemingly making the old canards about jazz come to life.
If I were Jewish? Brother, you’d better ‘effing believe I’d be looking at what I did in order to ensure I didn’t conform to stereotype. Just like if I was black, I would go way the hell out of my way to present myself as an actual Theo Huxtable.
You don’t want to be tarred with the stereotype, and provide living proof that the old stereotypes and canards had something to them?
THEN DON’T F*CKING MAKE THEM COME TO LIFE.
@pst314,
Oh, and do you know just why I happen to know who the financiers were behind Gangsta Rap?
I once got into an argument with a bona-fide, real-life, card-carrying neo-Nazi. I made the mistake of pointing out the lunacy of the whole “Jazz as exercise in Jewish destruction of Western Civilization through popularizing African jungle music”.
I think you can make the extrapolation to how I lost that argument. There’s a whole bunch of evidence out there, including interviews and actual statements by said executives, along with black recording artists complaining about it.
At the time, I was too ‘effing sickened by it to really keep all the links going, but it is out there. I’ll let you do your own research.
It’s kinda like trying to defend abortion rights people and so forth against the anti-abortion arguments when Margaret Sanger’s words are all out there… Ya want people to be A-OK with what you’re doing? Then, you’d better be simon-pure and accurate yourself.
Frankly, Margaret Sanger did rather more to turn me against abortion than anything else I’ve experienced.
Uh, no. If ethnically Jewish people are to be condemned while ethnically Christian people don’t get the same attention then we’re looking at a double standard.
@pst314,
That whooshing sound you’re hearing? That was the point missing your head.
The issue is not assigning blame for the existence of Gangsta Rap; the point is Jewish (and, idiot…) executives failing to examine the premises of what they were doing and saying to themselves “Ya know… Maybe we ought not be in this aspect of the business, because… Ya know… Optics.”.
There’s plenty of blame to go around; black artists that came up with it? White enthusiasts who thought glorifying criminality, misogyny, and drugs was a great idea? The people who then chose to “live the gangsta life”?
What I’m pointing out is the sheer ‘effing stupidity of those Jewish executives. I mean, OK, I’m trying to argue with losers against their anti-semitism, here: Is it really a good idea to be giving them ammunition?
Same with the other bullshit out there: You want me to be on your side, and say that black Americans are just like everyone else? Have a f*cking look at the FBI statistics, then… You want me to defend you? Give me something to do it with, not more evidence that you as a group can’t self-regulate enough to participate in polite society.
But the black crime rate is much higher than the white crime rate. Hence the truth behind the stereotype.
But behind the Jewish stereotype are 2000 years of Christian lies, and 1400 years of Muslim lies, and 200 years of leftist lies.
If the black and white crime rates were the same, would stereotypes about black criminality be the fault of the few blacks who committed crimes or the fault of the whites who fell for lies about blacks?
You started this off by writing:
Now you seem to using a mott-and-bailey defense to say you didn’t really mean the facts about Da Jooz are “pretty damning”.
@pst314, who said:
Did you read that post, or just pick out things that offended you?
My whole damn point was the way the various assholes have apparently taken the old ravings as guides to their conduct.
You don’t want to be tarred by the bigots? Then, quit acting as though what the bigots were saying was true.
Is that too hard for you to make out?
What the various offensive parties in all these demographics are doing is their level best to prove out the stereotypes, to the extent that their demographic will wind up discredited and dealt with accordingly. Is that wise?
It’s almost as if I said “Ya know what? They’re accusing me, a “cis-hetero white male”, of being a congenital unreformable rapist… Well, if I’m going to do the time for the crime, let’s get raping…”
Which is effectively what a lot of these groups are doing.
So, Jews need worry about conforming (or not) to historical stereotypes but cis-heterosexual white males are exempt?
Case in point: Democrats say they are the “smart people” when it comes to economics.
Democrat displaying economic wisdom:
Whoopi thinks inflation is happening because grocers are raising their prices to gouge the public; the insane printing of money and spending it that her chosen party has performed since the first day of the Biden administration has nothing to do with it.
Thus, providing perfect evidence for all the assertions about three things: The essential economic illiteracy of Democrats, women, and blacks.
You want to be treated like a sane person? One who understands irrefutable laws of economics? Then, don’t cosplay as a f*cking idiot and provide ammunition to all your potential opponents, who you will no doubt claim are “racist” when they point this crap out.
I swear to God, these people are their own worst enemies. I really, truly do not like looking at this crap through a political lens, or a racist one, or a sexist one, or any lens at all… But, here you are, where you’ve left me, unable to argue effectively on your behalf.
Because of your actions and words.
That’s about it.
@aelfheld, who said:
Lemme see if I get this right… I’ve been expected to bend over backwards all my goddamn life as a “cis-hetero white male” in order not to be considered automatically as a racist rapist, yet me suggesting that other groups might want to partake of the same supper of shit is somehow… Wrong?
Frankly, piss off. All my life, I’ve lived under the burden of prejudice and automatic suspicion just because I’m male and white. Women automatically look at me and move away in personal spaces, because they’re conditioned to look at me as a “threat”. Blacks automatically accuse me of racism, where none was ever intended or demonstrated.
Somehow, then? My suggesting that others ought to be doing the same? That’s racist?
I don’t think you lot have been living in quite the same world I have, or you’ve so internalized the narrative that you no longer notice the abuse.
Piss off, Kirk.
There’s a codependency on display here, one of virtue-signaling. It’s anathema to question the shibboleths, or point out the inconsistencies.
Ever wonder why you’ll often see things like a little kid crying somewhere in public, with nobody doing anything about it? Plenty of adult males around, why aren’t they doing something about it?
Why, do you suppose it might be due to the stereotype of males being pedophiles?
Instead of automatically leaping to the defense of pedophiles, I usually do something about them, instead. Sad that I have to, but there you are: I’m not making excuses for them, I’m acting when I see it.
And, it’s murderous to recognize that there are reasons, good ones, for that stereotype to exist.
What I’m not seeing, anywhere that I’m pointing out these things, is any of the demographics in question doing what I’m doing about pedos. They’re not even criticizing them; it’s “Oh, they’re Jewish… They’re beyond criticism or anything else…” or “He’s black; he’s a victim, can’t be guilty of criminality…”
So, what we’ve effectively established here is a double-standard: I’m white, so I’m automatically guilty of everything anyone with my Pantone shade skin color ever did.
Meanwhile, if some other group does something consistently enough to become a stereotype, we’re to ignore that because “individual”.
That’s the standard you’re setting, with all this.
As an aside? Do you want to know what turned me off, more than anything else in my life from the traditional liberal “luvvie” ideology of white guilt? Learning and internalizing that all I’d ever be to most women and blacks was a threat… Because of how I look.
Not because of how I behaved. Not because of anything I ever actually did, but because I looked “evil”. Like other people who did bad things, a long time ago and a long ways away…
Nobody here has said that Jews are beyond criticism. What we have said is that the stereotypes about Jews are false. Are lies. Then you angrily deny that you said those stereotypes are true. Then you write the above, and, well….
Say what? “Jewish” isn’t a destructive behavior like diddling kids so that’s a really troubling flex of yours.
The Jewish community is as filled with heroes and villains as the Swedish community. Or the Latvian one. It is telling that you seem to feel “Jewish” people as a whole should be held to a different standard than Swedes or Latvians.
There’s a word for that.
That would have negated your vote. All those states went for Kamala.
The mental health crisis is worse with some than with others.
He couldn’t have just shaved his head?
I nominate her as head hench-lesbian of this site if she doesn’t get the spokes-lesbian gig.
This is the first I’ve heard of aqua tofana but I don’t think it will be the last. Is this just a lot of copium, or are they half to fully serious?
As a brown skinned non Jew, neutral, he has a point.
Precisely because contrary to what you suggested , cis Christian white males are in fact constantly forced to worry about NOT conforming to historical stereotypes. And they go to considerable efforts trying to avoid that, even conservative White men, I have noticed, bend over backwards not to appear mean towards brownies or women. Even though those stereotypes are incorrect – those white Christian men died by the million to finish off slavery, fascism etc
And as he clearly said, he doesn’t believe those stereotypes about Jews (jazz as an example) or blacks are correct.
What he is pointing at is that unlike Christian White Men, those groups don’t feel any shame if some of their members behave in ways that seem to confirm those stereotypes.
You are both right. These are two halves for the problem. You have to make policy decisions to avoid perverse incentives and temptations. At the same time certain groups clearly have little desire or discipline to avoid those temptations. Blacks are an obvious example.
I see you’ve been busy.
[ Slurps coffee. ]
Kirk:
OK – keep going:
All those goyim who bought hip-hop records and baggy pants also made a deliberate choice in the matter.
And their (grand)parents made deliberate choices to experiment with pot, get divorced, etc. – the main, disastrous choice being abandoning religion and letting celebrity and pseudo-science replace humility and faith, letting professors and entertainers dictate values.
All the result of deliberate choices.
Entire Youtube channels are devoted to trends that crashed upon launch. Nothing was forced on anyone – nor can it be.
And we now see many people – especially young males – pushing back against the media elite. Go woke, go broke is a thing – entire entertainment franchises have crashed and burned due to the deliberate choices of ‘Murican goyim.
So what fever-brain logic turns you back to the Joos?
[pops corn, pours a vodka and tonic, sits down]
Those permanent underclass whites in the UK are another obvious example. An example which undermines any claim that blacks are uniquely inclined to embrace such temptations.
Also: When those big welfare programs were first enacted, poor Americans were initially very reluctant to take welfare: They regarded it as shameful and something to be avoided if at all possible. But commie* activists embarked on a massive campaign to persuade these people that welfare was not shameful but a right–and presumably a right due to them because they were exploited by the system, I suppose.
* Communists, democratic socialists, progressives, liberals, etc.
A little relief from the acrimony. (Slightly nsfw. Funny, too.)
and then it will be game on…the world is going to revert to the “bad old days” with a rapidity that will shock all these privileged scum
The Gods of the Copybook Headings are on line three.
If there were a way to reliably detect Cluster Bs
There is. It’s a behaviour disorder and pretty trivially diagnosable. The problem is that normal people greatly struggle with don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do as a diagnostic tool. If you need something more explicit, here it is: the etiology behind the cluster B personality disorders is severe, sustained childhood abuse. The child’s emotional development ceases due to their developing brain being trapped in a constant fight-or-flight survival mode. If you suspect you are dealing with a Cluster B, close your eyes, forget everything you know about them and just listen. Are you listening to a child, or an adult?
White enthusiasts who thought glorifying criminality, misogyny, and drugs was a great idea?
I’ve pointed out before that there simply aren’t enough black people in the US for gangsta rappers to be making the kind of money they are unless the majority of the market is actually white teenagers.
The Scots-Irish woman had a lot to do with that; she decided she was done with the bullshit
Ummm….no. What happened was Archbishop “Dagger” John Hughes decided to do something about the Irish being…well, everything in the 19th century that urban blacks are today. He leveraged Irish Catholicism, ethnic pride and characteristic Irish pugnaciousness to bring Irish immigrants back to the Catholic church and instill in them Catholic values, which slowly tamped down the promiscuity, alcoholism and violence typical of the diaspora. The “[…]Irish woman” was just as promiscuous as the men and as inclined to hybristophilia as any 2024 hood rat prior to Dagger John’s reform efforts.
And ethnically Christian record executives have lily white hands?
Sam Walton has entered the chat.
@Kirk, you stepped on the third rail. You said something mildly critical about Jews. A couple of years ago I noted that there was no moral difference between circumcision and the various forms of vaginal cutting performed in the Islamic sub-Sahara, and it was like kicking a beehive.
At least as far as Jews, wrong. In fact we have a value called kiddush Hashem, sanctifying G-d’s name, which includes acting in a way that increases esteem for G-d in the world, and of avoiding its opposite, chillul Hashem, desecrating His name. Yes, we are painfully aware that the hip-hop impresarios and many others are committing terrible chillul Hashem.
The problem is, as an old story’s punchline has it, that “the Trotskys make the revolutions and the Bronsteins (Trotsky’s original last name) pay the price.” And at least Trotsky was raised in something approximating a Jewish environment! A large part of American Jewry is completely deracinated and, in many ways, are practically members of another religion. (Already in the 1870s a prominent Orthodox rabbi, Samson Raphael Hirsch, pointed out in a memorandum to the German government that the differences between Orthodox and Reform Judaism are greater than those between Catholics and Protestants.)
[As a microcosm of the difference, consider voting patterns. In many Orthodox neighborhoods and communities, Harris supporters are/were as rare as hen’s teeth; even among the more acculturated Orthodox communities, support for her was pretty low. If they were representative of the electorate at large, Trump would have easily won with 75-80% of the vote, if not higher. Meanwhile, among American Jewry as a whole, something like 79% voted for her.]
The Left are a murderous lot.
OK, these similarities are kinda starting to creep me out. While my grandfather wasn’t exactly doing “the right thing”, dead is dead either way. Grandma did consider relief but decided not to take it as it meant giving up what little equity they had in their house.
Heh. Never needed to be prescribed opioids, thank God, but I rarely even touch acitometaphine. Alcohol otoh…
This is the thing. This is why these sorts of “policy decisions” should not be a function of government. We have killed off private charities effectiveness at this most crucial and personal responsibility level. Mostly because value judgements are necessary and must be made. It’s a perfection being the enemy of the greater good. If even one person, especially any child, suffers greatly, it is better that many, many more people suffer more broadly.
This mentality plays into the blacks/Jews/women/hispanic* prejudices and exceptions being argued above here.
*Any guys here ever notice that it was Catholic guys who had enthusiasm for the more disgusting porn? I’ll burn my own coat, thankyouverymuch.
Not a function of the national government. Possibly not a function of the state government.
Public relief was once the province of local governments & therefore much more tailored to local circumstances.
Or tell him “put your fingers in your ears and chant ‘la la la’ continuously so you can’t hear us.”