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Dublin man. || Oh dear. || Best not to dawdle, I think. || Your bedroom buddy. || His is bigger. || Theirs is bigger, too. || Houseguest. || A game about making wigs (and buying hair, and drones, and a war against hats). Previously. || It was a day of ups and downs. || Alas, I don’t know the name for this. || Well, that escalated quickly. || Luckily, he had a sandal. || At last, a guide to vomiting. || Nommy-nommy-nom. || No, I have no idea. || Ideal teacher material. || Satellite made of wood. || How to move the Moon (while melting quite a bit of it). || “I’m pressure. I’m pressurelicious.” || Project Sundial. || The progressive retail experience, parts 591, 592, 593, and 594. || He says fortune smiled upon him. || Bigfoot. || Fun for all the family. || And finally, oh don’t pull that face, you want one and you know it.
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(Gets PST314’s coat)
[ Raises eyebrow. ]
That wasn’t my coat. It’s so mild out that I left it at home.
her house smells powerfully of cat piss and box wine.”
but he repeats himself
Effectiveness of tear gas called into question.
@ccwscientist, who said:
I heard this right when it came out, almost as the floods were receding. Thing is, I can’t find reliable sources that corroborate it. Any cites?
It’s one of those things… It sounds right, you want it to be true, but… Is it?
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the more likely explanation for all the damage is probably a.) urbanization without sane planning for runoff, and b.) the fact that they never, ever seem to plan for “black swan” events when they’re doing the urban growth BS.
Case in point: Go to California. Look at their flood control programs and everything associated with it. Now, look at those for any sign that they’ve factored in the historical flood records here: Great Flood of California 1605 and here.
You’ll be a long time looking; per an informant of mine in the Army Corps of Engineers, all of those “great floods” were simply hand-waved away; anomalies, couldn’t happen ever again. One-time events.
You believe the planners, you’re in for a rude awakening. In my native Pacific Northwest, I was taught as I grew up that we did not have earthquakes. Not like California… Oh, and volcanoes? Not happening.
Since I was a kid, we’ve learned that, yes, we do have active volcanoes. One of them even blew up. We’ve also learned about the Cascadia Subduction Fault, and all those dead trees out on the coast that I asked about were killed by one back about 1700, which produced a rather massive “orphan” tsunami in Japan, clear across the ‘effing Pacific. Said tsunami was damn near as big as the last one they had, which was an historical gonger…
Did I mention that none of the people doing the highway and road design in the Northwest accounted for those earthquakes when designing highway and other road cuts and fills? Nor did any of the building departments, when approving home construction on hillsides…
Can you say “Oso“? I knew you could…
Oh, and here’s another thought: Most of the housing in the Puget Sound region was not designed with a lot of earthquake resistance built in. They did mandate good foundation fastening, but at the same time, this is a very humid, moist climate. The mandate was also for treated plate to be put atop the concrete foundations, lest the structure be undermined by rot. Trouble is, nobody really thought or cared about the foundation fastening systems, which were mostly just iron J-bolts. Not hot-dip galvanized bolts, either; plain iron in most applications.
Which the copper salts in a lot of the treated lumber react badly with, leading to… Ta-da!!! Corrosion!!!
Last remodel we did on the coast, we had to have a chunk of the outer foundation wall cut out and we discovered, much to our horror, that the combination of environmental moisture and untreated iron in conjunction with treated lumber… Well, the J-bolts on the part of the foundation we worked on had gone from “1/2 inch of sturdy metal” to “rustcicle about the diameter of a pencil lead”.
I’ll leave the likely implications of all that as an exercise for the reader. It would be my expectation that should we experience another 1700-like earthquake, the resultant damage is going to leave everything west of I-5 corridor in a state of nature not too far removed from what it was in the early days; the road network is gonna be gone, along with everything else modern. Rural areas will likely survive best, but I fully expect the urban ones to go full Mad Max within hours of it all.
I rather suspect that the political lean afterwards is going to be somewhat different, as is the economy. It would take generations for people to forget the aftermath and regain confidence in it all. A lot depends on the time of year, however… If it hits in the dead of a wet winter? LOL… A.) things are going to shake like a literal bowl full of Jell-O, and B.) a lot of people are going to freeze in the dark. Especially if it happens at night…
Only one or two small communities over there are paying attention and doing any prep for it. The rest just ignore it, and rely on “government” to take care of them, while the bureaucrats are asleep at the switch.
Kirk says: “The real problem here for the blacks and others is that “Hispanic” and “Asian” can very easily morph over into “white”, which makes it probable that they’ll be able to pass right on in with the majority.”
This is correct. I know a bunch of Iranians (engineers, docs). They blend in and are not terribly “brown”. Chinese blend in culturally. etc. Those from India end up running companies. Where I live the Mexicans have adopted the trades and are doing very well. Own their own businesses. There was a wide-open opportunity for roofers, painters, landscaping, concrete work…but not a single black took advantage of it.
@ccscientist,
Many American blacks are hard-coded for failure. They see others being successful who often start out worse than they do, and all they can do is try to tear them down. It’s the “crab bucket” mentality that has destroyed much of sub-saharan Africa; one member of a family makes themselves successful, then the rest glom onto them for freebies. It’s why their governments are so corrupt; there’s no structure or cultural underpinnings for anything above about family/clan level.
As such, I don’t think that a western model of governance will ever work.
I’m going to go way out on the observational limb here, and suggest that the reason you find Western social forms working well with Western populations is that the “hooks” have been installed in those populations via selection. We Scots/Irish were once as bad or worse when it came to lawlessness and depravity; the crime rates in the Appalachians and small communities where we settled were horrendous. In England, you go back and look at the level of violence and murder during the “old days”, and it’s quite on par with the modern black here in the US. What changed? Well, we bred that crap out of the population. There was a long time there where if you wanted to get laid, you had to be a hard-working steady sort, or the “nice girls” wouldn’t look at you twice. This had effect; all those disruptive genes are gone, or at least, successfully repressed. The Scots-Irish woman had a lot to do with that; she decided she was done with the bullshit, collectively, and stopped breeding with the disruptives. Modern black women, on the other hand? Totally not paying attention to what they’re breeding with, and that explains why the two different communities have had such different outcomes.
You want to know why the sub-Saharan Africans are so inept in civilization? It’s because of things like that; they’re really not suited for that sort of collective effort, because the necessities in their genes ain’t been installed. They’re much closer to a state of nature for humanity than we are.
Of course, at the rate the Left is going, we’re gonna decivilize at some point. Their women keep wanting to breed with the exotic outsider, so they bring in their own barbarians.
I ain’t never going to forget the “brave strong feminist” that dumped my buddy because he wasn’t enough of a “feminist ally”. Know who she wound up with? Why, an Iranian sort of “gentleman” who I’m reasonably sure was beating her ass on at least a weekly basis, if not daily. She loved it, and him… Gave him two kids, both girls, who I felt nothing but pity for. She didn’t give him sons; he hated her for it.
I kept track of her through a mutual female friend that worked with her. State employee, did I mention…? Last I heard, she was wearing a hijab and all the rest.
Feminist. Rejected a literal blond football-star all-around athlete and scholar of a guy, for that. My buddy literally worshipped her sorry ass; she dumped him, we had him on suicide watch for about a year after. I think he wound up married to a Ukrainian or Polish girl he met over there as a contractor.
It’s a lot like that hunter with the bear joke… I don’t think she was there for the feminism.
This subreddit is still active, years after David first commented on it.
How filled with ennui must your life be, that you seek out this sort of silly crap?
This is why…
When the race war starts, the whole thing will be triggered by things like this.
Marn’i Washington is, by the way, black. I knew that before I even searched for her details, from what she wrote and her mentality.
Blacks need to be purged from government positions permanently when they perform like this. The rubble needs to bounce around their careers. She should be unemployable for life in any public capacity.
I’ve worked around a bunch of outstanding black Americans, and I value their contributions. What I can’t tolerate is how the left has propagandized a bunch of the younger ones into being “activists” like this; it ain’t like the tax dollars she’s divvying out were earned by her ilk, that’s for damn sure.
Racial spoils systems absolutely have to die, and if they don’t, then there goes any hope for a “diverse society”, if that is even a good thing. They don’t end this woman’s career, she’s only going to go on sowing more division and hatred.
When it blows up, she’ll be right there, playing victim. Just like the Hamasniks did, after October 7th.
Kirk — saw that, And noted that 1) FEMA admitted that it happened (one of those things that never happens, right?) and 2) advised they had taken “extreme measures” in the case, which apparently consisted of transferring the unspeakable toad to another county, I also noted that her peers in the gig have names like Earnestine and Takesha. Which leads to the conclusion that this is not just limited to the loathsome Marni. Excuse me, Marn’i. The only encouraging note is that DiSantis has entered the fray and I believe him to be a dedicated rubble bouncer.
This is the communication strategy of sociopaths: language isn’t a way to express what’s on your mind; it’s a tool of manipulation and control.
Notice how they always attribute Reagan’s popularity to his superior communication style, as if it were his tone and mannerisms that won us over. No, you Cluster B nightmares, it was the content of his message, which he backed up with actions.
We agreed with his worldview and principles. But if you’re a sociopath, you don’t have a moral core. You hold no principles other than the belief you should be in charge. Most sociopaths are oblivious to the moral universe that others live in — they can’t comprehend the connections and implications of certain proposals, so they just skip the whole project of trying to understand it.
Occasionally a sociopath is clever enough to mimic moral speech — which makes them exceptionally dangerous — but most of them can’t do it.
If there were a way to reliably detect Cluster Bs and remove them from society, we’d be ever so much better off,
What catches the eye is the display of supposedly impressive credentials – “Dr Arlene… Professor… Studied politics” – along with the vanity, the smugness, and the obvious contempt for the shopkeeper, who she assumes voted differently, like an ignorant prole, a lower being. A mere shopkeeper.
And again, after the result, when faced with the glaring mismatch of assumption and reality, Dr Arlene’s self-reflection seems non-existent. As if the outcome of the election couldn’t in any way be related to a dislike of attitudes much like her own. Attitudes very much shared by the people who she expected to win effortlessly.
Re the above, from the previous thread:
Women asking why.
As if they, and their psychology, weren’t part of the equation.
@ Kirk
Check out “Dam Removal Europe”, “European Rivers Network”.
damremoval.eu, ern.org/en/
If another example is needed, consider this one.
You see, she needs to know where you live. And you have to wear an identifying bracelet.
And hey, who could possibly dislike the idea of these neurotic, controlling women having the power they crave? A world shaped in their image, according to their compulsions.
Oh, and yes, she’s a high-school teacher. Influencing other people’s children. Every day of the week.
Trump around, Trump around
The creator is Steohen Hilton who was married to Laura Clery, a liberal comedian. They divorced and he became super based but at least it looks like they’ve remained friendly enough for the sake of their two children to continue to collaborate on comedy routines on Instagram.
Give them credit – both are recovering addicts and they’ve managed to stay sober.
Strongly agree.
EDIT: Agree for two reasons: (1) Government bureaucrats are overwhelmingly on the left and despise all others. (2) Black racists are far from rare.
I’ve added Madam to the previous post.
You see, she needs to know where you live. And you have to wear an identifying bracelet.
Good advice, because when you are “in danger” from random roving mobs of Trump voters the the best thing to do is identify yourself as one of the “endangered”.
Reverse camouflage is real 4D chess thinking though I thought the notion of identifying population groups with external markers went out around 1945, but what do I know.
The genius of the side of love, hope, joy, and progress is truly boundless. Speaking of which, and demonstrating that as the twig is bent so grows the tree, another says “we” failed black women, (I am guessing especially the blacks – though not a much as the ytes who voted for Orange Hitler), and is ashamed of us as America doesn’t deserve Harris.
True, I guess, though in much the same way as not deserving a meteor impact, plague of locusts, or having to listen to Cardi B try give another speech.
She left off “unburdened by what has been”, but given her grief and anger an understandable omission.
Jabba the Hutt is sad.
Band name.
Too late, that was an ’80s buddy flick about two lovable drifters getting into one hilarious scrap with the law after another as they cross the country looking for Cat Piss’ stolen bindle that had his birth certificate which would prove he was the sole heir to the Vanderschildbilt avocado fortune. The movie ends as the camera dollies through a mansion to reveal Cat Piss and Box Wine on a beach silhouetted against the setting sun being served umbrella drinks by two bikini clad women. Electronic music by Vangelis plays as credits roll.
Jabba the Hutt is sad.
Great googly moogly, one would think that when you start to accumulate fat in your forehead, it might just be time to cut back at least a little bit – unless the beluga look is a new thing, I am not up on the latest trends.
I’m sure she’s been using food to compensate for something for a long time. Unless she just has no impulse control.
It’s sad to see morbidly obese people displaying “addictions” to fattening foods but one cannot save people from themselves. I remember a few who fervently denied the validity of the low-carb path to weight loss even after a number of conversations between people who had already achieved some health success.
It could be they’re tired of all the drama & hysterics that seem to accompany much of modern life & have decided to focus on what you call ‘silly crap’. It’s harmless, entertaining in a mild fashion, and apparently brings them some level of enjoyment.
Besides, that Iberico ham looks delicious.
Pandaemonium.
And their unhinged, easily disproved, lies.
Few, if any, experienced any difficulties during the first Trump administration that were not self-inflicted.
I agree. Whatever America’s sins, Harris would constitute a violation of the 8th Amendment.
Exorcism needed. Badly needed.
Note that Pandaemonium is the name of the capital of Hell in Paradise Lost. Literally, “home of all demons”.
Pandemonium
In a validation of Poe’s Law, the second from the right on the top was a parody account.
How filled with ennui must your life be, that you seek out this sort of silly crap?
The one with the waitress spilling food from a bucket – normal for a low country boil, but on newspaper, not fancy linen, and generally on a folding table outside, not a posh looking restaurant.
We did this inside (it was winter, not that it gets that cold here) for some visitors from one of the countries our ancestors were thrown out of and they were mildly appalled till they saw more shrimp than they had ever seen, and found out mudbugs are indeed edible.
These mad women make me wish I could have voted for Trump and I don’t even live in America.
Pandemonium, Part II, a struggle session ensues.
Well, quite.
Jabba the Hutt is sad.
Patrick from SpongeBob gets a sex change.
Dayum. “They are not boys! I’m not going to listen to transphobia at this table.” WTF didn’t someone just tell him “Fine. Leave now.”?
I’m done with the TRA bullies. DONE.
Women asking why.
This and the other performative nonsense and over-the-top hysterics linked to here and in the previous thread make me wonder if those 19th century doctors or whoever weren’t on to something with all their talk of “hysterical women”.
These idiot feminists still haven’t connected the dots that on the one hand they performatively weep because “women’s rights” somehow have been taken away and yet at the same time they also performatively support “girldick” on lesbian dating apps, wangs in female changing rooms, and “trans women are women”nonsense. Honey, if you can’t figure out what a woman is, why on earth do you expect me to care about your so-called “women’s rights” when you don’t seem to care about them either unless it means you can kill your kid?
These mad women make me wish I could have voted for Trump and I don’t even live in America.
All you had to do was ask for a ballot from a state that doesn’t require ID…
That reminds me: I recently saw a couple videos on Twitter of pro-Trump parades in Japan and elsewhere. Not being fluent in those languages, however, I could not read the signs to find clues as to why they liked Trump so much.
Yet another public school teacher.
@ComputerLabRat, who said:
Absolutely this.
From my perspective as a “cis-hetero white male”, it seems that there was an awful lot of “right” in the things that the opponents to the women’s suffrage movement were saying about women’s emotions and obsessions rendering them unfit for the vote.
Not that they shouldn’t have been looking in the mirror as they did so, mind you.
You could well read the last few generations of our culture/civilization as an exercise in all the then-vilified and now lauded “diversity hires” having been given the opportunity to prove they weren’t as f*cked up as the ancien régime said they were, they’re all now hell-bent on trying to provide living, breathing proof that the old stereotypes and slanders were… Absolutely correct.
You look at it, and it’s pretty damning. Remember the old Nazi claims about jazz music being the product of a Jewish attempt to leverage “African rhythm” into destroying the moral fiber of white youth…? Go have a look at who, specifically, is financing and profiting from “Gangsta Rap”. It’s an interesting thing, when look at it side-by-side with the old Nazi propaganda.
Same-same with black criminality and the urban cesspools said criminality created. When you do the compare/contrast with yesteryear’s base canards about the black community with today’s crime rates and front pages… Well, looky here… What’s this? Oh, yeah… Living the stereotype out.
Also, homeless people. I’ll leave that one as an exercise for the reader.
You go down the laundry list of abandoned old-school “conventional wisdoms” about a lot of demographics, and what do you discover? Either there’s been a conscious attempt on the part of some elements of those demographics to prove the old “lies” were true, or the old-timers were on to something.
I’m speaking here as someone who was a full-on Kool-Aid drinker about all the “correct” positions, back when I entered the adult world in the 1980s. I rather miss that naive young man, but I also have immense rage against all the lying liars that lied to him from birth onward. I think I’d have done rather better in life if I’d not been blinkered by all the idealism. Sure as hell would have made some different choices…
You just know she has a separate refrigerator to hold her boxed wine and hasn’t had a naked man in her bedroom since the Clinton administration.
Heh.
[ Sips gin and tonic. ]
Kirk goes off with:
Jazz and rap were not developed in some secret Jewish laboratory. Jazz certainly developed long before Jews gained influence over popular culture.
And BTW the biggest push to mainstream undesirables was the Anglo-American Abolitionist movement – and it was motivated entirely by sincere Christian feeling. The American Civil War and the British abolition of slavery were achieved without any significant Left-wing or Jooish input.
So calm down. It seems that others’ unhinged rants have triggered your own unhinged rant.
Here are the kernels of truth in your post:
Since its formation, the Leftist Commune has tried to destabilize Western Judeo-Christian democracy. Their ultimate goal has never been to liberate or empower, but to take power themselves.
To do this they have constantly tried to undermine the Judeo-Christian moral standards of society by:
Identifying and riding trends, movements, and groups that can be used as wedges of social unrest. In particular, steering various movements towards the politics of victimhood as a proxy for Marxist class theory.Using greed, lust, tribalism, and other baser elements of human nature to their political advantage. Portraying morality as constricting and artificial, and anarchy as freedom and authenticity. Using this rhetoric to encourage rejection of received Judeo-Christian morality, to glamorize and cover for lawlessness… because violent revolution was the goal from the outset.In particular, develop a dysfunctional underclass dependent on welfare.
Certainly many of the “Prison Reform” and “Progressive” movements were promoted by Left-leaning Fabians, but the push for female suffrage did not come out of some fiendish Marxist back room – it grew out of the same industrialization changes that extended political suffrage to working class men who were not property owners.
Did the left identify and use the movement to amplify division? Sure… the pose of the handwringing social organizer has served them well. But that doesn’t mean all social changes of the modern era are a big conspiracy…. I will grant you that most policies that absolve or dilute personal responsibility are promoted by Leftists.
Unfortunately, the appeal to baser human nature usually works, although it’s a disgusting way to gain political power.
Does it “prove” that certain populations are substandard?
As Charles Murray and others have explained – the poor, the stupid, and the impulsive need the external support/direction of a strong society more than people of greater endowments. The clearest example is the black middle class in America – which was almost entirely wiped out by Leftists “helping” them in the 50s and 60s, with welfare programs that decimated family and Church-based community structures that withstood the worst of Jim Crow.
That story certainly proves the revolting callousness of the Left – made more revolting by the hypocritical caring front they put on it all.
But all it proves to me about blacks – and about Fentanyl-addicted poor whites – is that they need strong, moral social structures to keep them on the level as good, productive citizens.
In the same vein we can ask – what would female suffrage and liberation look like if it were entirely devoid of the double standards of victimhood politics?
Blockquote is your friend.
The big divide it seems to me is Dems==party of free stuff, Repubs=party of creating opportunity. Many hispanics have started on the ladder of business/career and would rather have opportunity than handouts. IRL there can never be enough handouts to bribe the entire population.
Free stuff destroyed the black community. Welfare was available if you had kids but not if there was a husband, thus single motherhood became incentivized (for all races) but it has terrible effects on the next generation and on the single, rootless men it creates. Being a husband and father incentivizes civilized behavior, planning, saving, working hard. Being a “baby daddy” does not.
@BenDavid, who quite literally ignored what I was saying…
Reading comprehension is your friend.
My point had nothing to do with jazz. Period. I said, quite clearly, that the Nazi imputation was that it was a “Jewish plot”.
Now, what you ought to be arguing against is the point I’m making about “Gangsta Rap” and the profiteers thereof.
Which, sadly, you cannot.
Single source, biased interpretation but true in facts…
Way too many other sources out there, if one bothers to do the research. The whole “hip-hop” phenomenon included a metric ton of Jewish impresarios and record executives behind it all, and I don’t think it’s too hard to argue the inimical effect all that “music” has had on urban black youth culture.
Bitches and hoes, yo?
Like I said… It’s almost like people are trying to make the bad old stereotypes real. And, you’re doing a magnificent job of making my point for me…
@ccscientist, who said:
Uhmmm… No. That’s like saying “drugs and the availability of drugs create addiction”.
Which is a bizarre interpretation on the whole cause-and-effect sequence. Drugs aren’t lying in wait and ambushing addicts, out in the wild. They’re inert, without agency; you don’t develop a drug addiction until and unless you take the drugs.
The root problem with “free stuff” isn’t that the goods were offered; it was that the offers were taken up.
I had immediate family who were in really bad circumstances because the family provider got himself killed doing “the right thing”, and his wife and kids then entered poverty as a direct result. Rather than go “on relief”, wife then pulled up her sleeves and went to work. Took her forever, but she pulled herself and the kids out of poverty, never once going “on relief” as it was in those days. Why? Family pride, mostly… Misplaced? Perhaps… But, it was a choice. There was charity available to her, but she never, ever took it. Didn’t consider it.
This will come as a news flash to an awful lot of people: You don’t have to put the needle into your arm, or take the drink.
I’ve been prescribed opiates multiple times in my life. Each time, a point was reached that I could recognize as “Oh, this isn’t good… I think I’m getting dependent on this crap…”, whereupon I quit taking the opioid and dealt with the chronic pain.
I ain’t going to tell you that that’s due to any particular virtue of mine, but it is because I chose not to let the pain or the chemical masking the pain become my master.
Similarly, my female forebear chose not to give up her agency and her freedom to the situation she was in, requiring of herself that she remained her own master.
That’s the choice that blacks made, and you could likely make a case that because they made those choices, they demonstrated their natural inclination towards slave-status: They want someone else to care for them. Those were the choices they made, of their own will. Which probably explains a lot about their whole situation, these days. They’re domesticated animals trying to live free and wild in a free and wild environment.
That this also says a lot about the do-good types is also an unpleasant truth; they want dependency and slaves. Main difference between now and the ante-bellum South? They don’t want those slaves picking cotton for them; they want them voting for them…
There’s a metric ton of (ethnically) Jewish people at the top of various industries.
But the easy availability of “free stuff” is indeed a corrupting influence. It’s no surprise, therefore, that some would be corrupted.
Theodore Dalrymple has written about this same phenomenon in the UK: Cradle-to-grave welfare leading to the growth of a chronic underclass with all the social pathologies we see here in America.
@pst314, who said:
The point that I’m making is that whoever takes the “free stuff” has made a deliberate choice in the matter.
Just like the Jewish record executives and impresarios made a deliberate choice to make money off of putting filth and misogyny out there in the commons, using black artists.
Nobody forced them to, did they? They just made a choice, and bedamned to the consequences… And, now that someone makes the connection, points it out, they’re the bad guy.
It’s almost as if all these demographics are saying “Wow, that was an outrageous accusation (of generations past, I might add…)… Might as well make it true.”
Then, went about making it look true. I’m sure that they did not consciously do so, but… Damn, are they doing a good job, or what?
KKK says “Blacks are natural criminals and need to have a boot on their throats at all times, lest they wreck decent communities…”
Current FBI stats? Uhmmm… WTF? I mean, Blazing Saddles was supposed to be a joke, not a guide to black criminality.
The thing that pisses me off the most about this crap is all the good friends I had in the service who happened to be black. As individuals, they were great people. The rest of the demographic, however? WTF, man… I mean, OK, just because I’ve got video of a bunch of black kids vandalizing my apartment complex, stealing my stuff? And, nobody doing anything about it, at all, because “black youth”? Being told that they’re effectively beyond punishment, because “black”, and having my insurance claims denied because they won’t do a police report? Presumably because they don’t want to have that “incident” show up on their crime stats?
It’s hard, almost impossible, not to start losing your tolerance, especially when you discover that many of your black “friends” defend shit like that because “whitey”.
You want a race-blind world to live in, folks? Then, you’d better be making a decision to remove race from your list of things you’d automatically defend. I don’t defend the white assholes I run into that are doing bad things to other people; in fact, I hold them to a higher standard and am more likely to turn their asses in, especially if they are doing racist things.
Oddly enough, the reverse has never once happened in my personal observation. About any of these groups, ever: I’ve seen clear abuse perpetrated by women on their male partners, and all the women around the situation stand there defending the bitch, saying she just “had a bad day”. If a male had done that? LOL… Speed-dialling the cops, right there.
The world is going to revert to the “bad old days” with a rapidity that will shock all these privileged scum, and the only people they have to blame for it is themselves and their innate inability to self-regulate.
The argument was made and accepted that there were injustices and unfairnesses under the old regime. The problem is, the folk who made the arguments against those now prove to be unreliable negotiators, uninterested in actually ending it all. All that they want is to be able to perpetrate the old evils on others, who only look like the old abusers. No “cis-heterosexual white male” today ever owned a slave, or held a woman as chattel, and yet we’re expected to stand around and take the punishment/abuse for those who did, generations past?
Nope. Not happening; all y’all “on the other side” are due for an ugly comeuppance, and it will only be your own fault for your inability to do what you asked and received (mostly…) from my generation of “cis-heterosexual white male oppressors”. The next generation ain’t going to be so generous with sharing power, and when you want to blame someone, go have a look in the mirror and remember who you supported as the reciprocal abuse of the innocent took place.
As I’ve said before… I ain’t advocating for any of this, and I will not participate in it. But, I will observe what has happened, work out the implications, and point them out. Just because you don’t like them, though? Doesn’t mean it isn’t true and all too likely to eventuate.
@David, who over on X/Twitter said:
<raises hand, tentatively…> Uhmmmmm… David? I hate to point out to you that we mostly already do.
Which is why everything has been going to shit, of late.
Fine, but if some fraction of the populace is likely to give in to temptation, then the temptations are a problem to be addressed.
And ethnically Christian record executives have lily white hands?
@pst314, who said:
You’re doing performative “whataboutism”, there pst314. That record executives were making bank while polluting the commons wasn’t the point; the point was, the Jewish executives seemingly making the old canards about jazz come to life.
If I were Jewish? Brother, you’d better ‘effing believe I’d be looking at what I did in order to ensure I didn’t conform to stereotype. Just like if I was black, I would go way the hell out of my way to present myself as an actual Theo Huxtable.
You don’t want to be tarred with the stereotype, and provide living proof that the old stereotypes and canards had something to them?
THEN DON’T F*CKING MAKE THEM COME TO LIFE.
@pst314,
Oh, and do you know just why I happen to know who the financiers were behind Gangsta Rap?
I once got into an argument with a bona-fide, real-life, card-carrying neo-Nazi. I made the mistake of pointing out the lunacy of the whole “Jazz as exercise in Jewish destruction of Western Civilization through popularizing African jungle music”.
I think you can make the extrapolation to how I lost that argument. There’s a whole bunch of evidence out there, including interviews and actual statements by said executives, along with black recording artists complaining about it.
At the time, I was too ‘effing sickened by it to really keep all the links going, but it is out there. I’ll let you do your own research.
It’s kinda like trying to defend abortion rights people and so forth against the anti-abortion arguments when Margaret Sanger’s words are all out there… Ya want people to be A-OK with what you’re doing? Then, you’d better be simon-pure and accurate yourself.
Frankly, Margaret Sanger did rather more to turn me against abortion than anything else I’ve experienced.
Uh, no. If ethnically Jewish people are to be condemned while ethnically Christian people don’t get the same attention then we’re looking at a double standard.
@pst314,
That whooshing sound you’re hearing? That was the point missing your head.
The issue is not assigning blame for the existence of Gangsta Rap; the point is Jewish (and, idiot…) executives failing to examine the premises of what they were doing and saying to themselves “Ya know… Maybe we ought not be in this aspect of the business, because… Ya know… Optics.”.
There’s plenty of blame to go around; black artists that came up with it? White enthusiasts who thought glorifying criminality, misogyny, and drugs was a great idea? The people who then chose to “live the gangsta life”?
What I’m pointing out is the sheer ‘effing stupidity of those Jewish executives. I mean, OK, I’m trying to argue with losers against their anti-semitism, here: Is it really a good idea to be giving them ammunition?
Same with the other bullshit out there: You want me to be on your side, and say that black Americans are just like everyone else? Have a f*cking look at the FBI statistics, then… You want me to defend you? Give me something to do it with, not more evidence that you as a group can’t self-regulate enough to participate in polite society.
But the black crime rate is much higher than the white crime rate. Hence the truth behind the stereotype.
But behind the Jewish stereotype are 2000 years of Christian lies, and 1400 years of Muslim lies, and 200 years of leftist lies.
If the black and white crime rates were the same, would stereotypes about black criminality be the fault of the few blacks who committed crimes or the fault of the whites who fell for lies about blacks?
You started this off by writing:
Now you seem to using a mott-and-bailey defense to say you didn’t really mean the facts about Da Jooz are “pretty damning”.
@pst314, who said:
Did you read that post, or just pick out things that offended you?
My whole damn point was the way the various assholes have apparently taken the old ravings as guides to their conduct.
You don’t want to be tarred by the bigots? Then, quit acting as though what the bigots were saying was true.
Is that too hard for you to make out?
What the various offensive parties in all these demographics are doing is their level best to prove out the stereotypes, to the extent that their demographic will wind up discredited and dealt with accordingly. Is that wise?
It’s almost as if I said “Ya know what? They’re accusing me, a “cis-hetero white male”, of being a congenital unreformable rapist… Well, if I’m going to do the time for the crime, let’s get raping…”
Which is effectively what a lot of these groups are doing.
So, Jews need worry about conforming (or not) to historical stereotypes but cis-heterosexual white males are exempt?
Case in point: Democrats say they are the “smart people” when it comes to economics.
Democrat displaying economic wisdom:
Whoopi thinks inflation is happening because grocers are raising their prices to gouge the public; the insane printing of money and spending it that her chosen party has performed since the first day of the Biden administration has nothing to do with it.
Thus, providing perfect evidence for all the assertions about three things: The essential economic illiteracy of Democrats, women, and blacks.
You want to be treated like a sane person? One who understands irrefutable laws of economics? Then, don’t cosplay as a f*cking idiot and provide ammunition to all your potential opponents, who you will no doubt claim are “racist” when they point this crap out.
I swear to God, these people are their own worst enemies. I really, truly do not like looking at this crap through a political lens, or a racist one, or a sexist one, or any lens at all… But, here you are, where you’ve left me, unable to argue effectively on your behalf.
Because of your actions and words.
That’s about it.
@aelfheld, who said:
Lemme see if I get this right… I’ve been expected to bend over backwards all my goddamn life as a “cis-hetero white male” in order not to be considered automatically as a racist rapist, yet me suggesting that other groups might want to partake of the same supper of shit is somehow… Wrong?
Frankly, piss off. All my life, I’ve lived under the burden of prejudice and automatic suspicion just because I’m male and white. Women automatically look at me and move away in personal spaces, because they’re conditioned to look at me as a “threat”. Blacks automatically accuse me of racism, where none was ever intended or demonstrated.
Somehow, then? My suggesting that others ought to be doing the same? That’s racist?
I don’t think you lot have been living in quite the same world I have, or you’ve so internalized the narrative that you no longer notice the abuse.
Piss off, Kirk.
There’s a codependency on display here, one of virtue-signaling. It’s anathema to question the shibboleths, or point out the inconsistencies.
Ever wonder why you’ll often see things like a little kid crying somewhere in public, with nobody doing anything about it? Plenty of adult males around, why aren’t they doing something about it?
Why, do you suppose it might be due to the stereotype of males being pedophiles?
Instead of automatically leaping to the defense of pedophiles, I usually do something about them, instead. Sad that I have to, but there you are: I’m not making excuses for them, I’m acting when I see it.
And, it’s murderous to recognize that there are reasons, good ones, for that stereotype to exist.
What I’m not seeing, anywhere that I’m pointing out these things, is any of the demographics in question doing what I’m doing about pedos. They’re not even criticizing them; it’s “Oh, they’re Jewish… They’re beyond criticism or anything else…” or “He’s black; he’s a victim, can’t be guilty of criminality…”
So, what we’ve effectively established here is a double-standard: I’m white, so I’m automatically guilty of everything anyone with my Pantone shade skin color ever did.
Meanwhile, if some other group does something consistently enough to become a stereotype, we’re to ignore that because “individual”.
That’s the standard you’re setting, with all this.
As an aside? Do you want to know what turned me off, more than anything else in my life from the traditional liberal “luvvie” ideology of white guilt? Learning and internalizing that all I’d ever be to most women and blacks was a threat… Because of how I look.
Not because of how I behaved. Not because of anything I ever actually did, but because I looked “evil”. Like other people who did bad things, a long time ago and a long ways away…
Nobody here has said that Jews are beyond criticism. What we have said is that the stereotypes about Jews are false. Are lies. Then you angrily deny that you said those stereotypes are true. Then you write the above, and, well….
Say what? “Jewish” isn’t a destructive behavior like diddling kids so that’s a really troubling flex of yours.
The Jewish community is as filled with heroes and villains as the Swedish community. Or the Latvian one. It is telling that you seem to feel “Jewish” people as a whole should be held to a different standard than Swedes or Latvians.
There’s a word for that.
That would have negated your vote. All those states went for Kamala.
The mental health crisis is worse with some than with others.
He couldn’t have just shaved his head?
I nominate her as head hench-lesbian of this site if she doesn’t get the spokes-lesbian gig.
This is the first I’ve heard of aqua tofana but I don’t think it will be the last. Is this just a lot of copium, or are they half to fully serious?
As a brown skinned non Jew, neutral, he has a point.
Precisely because contrary to what you suggested , cis Christian white males are in fact constantly forced to worry about NOT conforming to historical stereotypes. And they go to considerable efforts trying to avoid that, even conservative White men, I have noticed, bend over backwards not to appear mean towards brownies or women. Even though those stereotypes are incorrect – those white Christian men died by the million to finish off slavery, fascism etc
And as he clearly said, he doesn’t believe those stereotypes about Jews (jazz as an example) or blacks are correct.
What he is pointing at is that unlike Christian White Men, those groups don’t feel any shame if some of their members behave in ways that seem to confirm those stereotypes.
You are both right. These are two halves for the problem. You have to make policy decisions to avoid perverse incentives and temptations. At the same time certain groups clearly have little desire or discipline to avoid those temptations. Blacks are an obvious example.
I see you’ve been busy.
[ Slurps coffee. ]
Kirk:
OK – keep going:
All those goyim who bought hip-hop records and baggy pants also made a deliberate choice in the matter.
And their (grand)parents made deliberate choices to experiment with pot, get divorced, etc. – the main, disastrous choice being abandoning religion and letting celebrity and pseudo-science replace humility and faith, letting professors and entertainers dictate values.
All the result of deliberate choices.
Entire Youtube channels are devoted to trends that crashed upon launch. Nothing was forced on anyone – nor can it be.
And we now see many people – especially young males – pushing back against the media elite. Go woke, go broke is a thing – entire entertainment franchises have crashed and burned due to the deliberate choices of ‘Murican goyim.
So what fever-brain logic turns you back to the Joos?
[pops corn, pours a vodka and tonic, sits down]
Those permanent underclass whites in the UK are another obvious example. An example which undermines any claim that blacks are uniquely inclined to embrace such temptations.
Also: When those big welfare programs were first enacted, poor Americans were initially very reluctant to take welfare: They regarded it as shameful and something to be avoided if at all possible. But commie* activists embarked on a massive campaign to persuade these people that welfare was not shameful but a right–and presumably a right due to them because they were exploited by the system, I suppose.
* Communists, democratic socialists, progressives, liberals, etc.
A little relief from the acrimony. (Slightly nsfw. Funny, too.)
and then it will be game on…the world is going to revert to the “bad old days” with a rapidity that will shock all these privileged scum
The Gods of the Copybook Headings are on line three.
If there were a way to reliably detect Cluster Bs
There is. It’s a behaviour disorder and pretty trivially diagnosable. The problem is that normal people greatly struggle with don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do as a diagnostic tool. If you need something more explicit, here it is: the etiology behind the cluster B personality disorders is severe, sustained childhood abuse. The child’s emotional development ceases due to their developing brain being trapped in a constant fight-or-flight survival mode. If you suspect you are dealing with a Cluster B, close your eyes, forget everything you know about them and just listen. Are you listening to a child, or an adult?
White enthusiasts who thought glorifying criminality, misogyny, and drugs was a great idea?
I’ve pointed out before that there simply aren’t enough black people in the US for gangsta rappers to be making the kind of money they are unless the majority of the market is actually white teenagers.
The Scots-Irish woman had a lot to do with that; she decided she was done with the bullshit
Ummm….no. What happened was Archbishop “Dagger” John Hughes decided to do something about the Irish being…well, everything in the 19th century that urban blacks are today. He leveraged Irish Catholicism, ethnic pride and characteristic Irish pugnaciousness to bring Irish immigrants back to the Catholic church and instill in them Catholic values, which slowly tamped down the promiscuity, alcoholism and violence typical of the diaspora. The “[…]Irish woman” was just as promiscuous as the men and as inclined to hybristophilia as any 2024 hood rat prior to Dagger John’s reform efforts.
And ethnically Christian record executives have lily white hands?
Sam Walton has entered the chat.
@Kirk, you stepped on the third rail. You said something mildly critical about Jews. A couple of years ago I noted that there was no moral difference between circumcision and the various forms of vaginal cutting performed in the Islamic sub-Sahara, and it was like kicking a beehive.
At least as far as Jews, wrong. In fact we have a value called kiddush Hashem, sanctifying G-d’s name, which includes acting in a way that increases esteem for G-d in the world, and of avoiding its opposite, chillul Hashem, desecrating His name. Yes, we are painfully aware that the hip-hop impresarios and many others are committing terrible chillul Hashem.
The problem is, as an old story’s punchline has it, that “the Trotskys make the revolutions and the Bronsteins (Trotsky’s original last name) pay the price.” And at least Trotsky was raised in something approximating a Jewish environment! A large part of American Jewry is completely deracinated and, in many ways, are practically members of another religion. (Already in the 1870s a prominent Orthodox rabbi, Samson Raphael Hirsch, pointed out in a memorandum to the German government that the differences between Orthodox and Reform Judaism are greater than those between Catholics and Protestants.)
[As a microcosm of the difference, consider voting patterns. In many Orthodox neighborhoods and communities, Harris supporters are/were as rare as hen’s teeth; even among the more acculturated Orthodox communities, support for her was pretty low. If they were representative of the electorate at large, Trump would have easily won with 75-80% of the vote, if not higher. Meanwhile, among American Jewry as a whole, something like 79% voted for her.]
The Left are a murderous lot.
OK, these similarities are kinda starting to creep me out. While my grandfather wasn’t exactly doing “the right thing”, dead is dead either way. Grandma did consider relief but decided not to take it as it meant giving up what little equity they had in their house.
Heh. Never needed to be prescribed opioids, thank God, but I rarely even touch acitometaphine. Alcohol otoh…
This is the thing. This is why these sorts of “policy decisions” should not be a function of government. We have killed off private charities effectiveness at this most crucial and personal responsibility level. Mostly because value judgements are necessary and must be made. It’s a perfection being the enemy of the greater good. If even one person, especially any child, suffers greatly, it is better that many, many more people suffer more broadly.
This mentality plays into the blacks/Jews/women/hispanic* prejudices and exceptions being argued above here.
*Any guys here ever notice that it was Catholic guys who had enthusiasm for the more disgusting porn? I’ll burn my own coat, thankyouverymuch.
Not a function of the national government. Possibly not a function of the state government.
Public relief was once the province of local governments & therefore much more tailored to local circumstances.
Or tell him “put your fingers in your ears and chant ‘la la la’ continuously so you can’t hear us.”