Never Before Attempted
Lifted from the comments, which you’re reading, of course:
Lawrence… said, “I remember when I was doing Hunger Games, nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead.”
She continued, “And it just makes me so happy every single time I see a movie come out that just blows through every one of those beliefs and proves that it is just a lie to keep certain people out of the movies. To keep certain people in the same positions that they’ve always been in.”
Jennifer Lawrence confirms bint status.
Apparently, hugely popular films of the last fifty years aren’t Ms Lawrence’s area of expertise. Still, there’s something almost charming about an attempt to publicly self-inflate having such a different – and seemingly unforeseen – effect.
Apparently, hugely popular films of the last fifty years aren’t Ms Lawrence’s area of expertise.
Meow. 🙂
She was a crappy Mystique in X-Men too.
That wasn’t a highpoint in casting, no. Rebecca Romijn was a much better Mystique.
I haven’t seen the Hunger Games films, and have no inclination to, so the only other thing I can think of is Passengers, with Chris Pratt, and which has very nearly evaporated from my memory.
As said on the other thread she really was good in Winters Bone. But that was nearly 13 years ago.
American Hustle was pretty enjoyable as well.
hugely popular films of the last fifty years aren’t Ms Lawrence’s area of expertise.
Does she have any areas of expertise?
nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie
One of the parts of growing up is learning and accepting that the world is a very big place, full of all sorts of people and cultures with long and varied histories.
But some people never grow up.
Apparently, hugely popular films of the last fifty years aren’t Ms Lawrence’s area of expertise.
She is a self proclaimed junior high dropout, the robot in Metropolis was a stronger female lead than anything she has done – and had a better acting range*.
Good money is on no areas of expertise.
*(Lawrence’s being from cardboard to pressboard)
when I was doing Hunger Games, nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie
So woke women can ‘erase’ other women now?
[ Sounds of a pedal bin. ]
[ Rolls well-thumbed cigar along bar to Mags. ]
[ Rolls well-thumbed cigar along bar to Mags. ]
I’ll save it for later. 😀
She is a self proclaimed junior high dropout, the robot in Metropolis was a stronger female lead than anything she has done – and had a better acting range*.
So, does she owe her acting gigs to her physical appearance?
Alien, Aliens, More Aliens, Yet More Aliens…
To repeat myself —
Not just 50 years worth of films but even further back in tv as well. Sad she doesn’t know of “Emma Peel” or “Honey West”.
“Alien, Aliens, More Aliens, Yet More Aliens…”
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“Alien, Aliens, More Aliens, Yet More Aliens…”
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The lead in the Aliens movie franchise was female, I think, through several movies. I have only seen the first one, so I’m not 100% sure is Sigourney Weaver played the lead in all the Aliens movies.
“Alien, Aliens, More Aliens, Yet More Aliens…”
Never watched the movies, but ISTR an XX type was the lead.
Definitely Sigourney Weaver.
The fact that she did most of her role as Mystique stark naked (except for stick-ons and blue paint) totally destroyed my ability to assess her acting ability. The few times she wore clothes, I thought her emoting was confused, like she hadn’t read the script.
“she did most of her role as Mystique stark naked (except for stick-ons and blue paint)”
So her chief job qualification is indeed “looks good naked”, with “able to remember her lines” a minor plus.
Or, to spread my disdain more widely, fan service.
So her chief job qualification is indeed “looks good naked” [and/or just plain looks good], with “able to remember her lines” a minor plus.
TBF, that is the qualification for 90+% of all actors and pop stars of either sex, although the latter don’t always even look good, especially partially naked.
More for women than for men, though.
Does she have any areas of expertise?
Amateur porn?
Hers was one of the more…prolific accounts exposed in the iCloud hack.
Pamela Anderson (Barb WIre, 1996), Brigitte Nielsen (Red Sonja, 1985), Sigourney Weaver (Alien, 1979), Pam Grier (Coffy, 1973), Meiko Kaji (Lady Snowblood,1973), Monica Vitti (Modesty Blaise, 1966), Jane Fonda (Cat Ballou,1965), and several others would like to have a word.
Lucy Lawless might wonder whether Lawrence noticed the six-year run (1995-2001) on television of Xena, Warrior Princess.
As PiperPaul noted in the earlier thread, it’s interesting that despite the obliviousness, or feigned obliviousness, of the comment, and despite the numerous examples to the contrary, and despite the implied insult to audiences and to any number of actresses, the interviewer, Viola Davis, didn’t see a need to challenge it.
Lucy Lawless might wonder whether Lawrence noticed the six-year run (1995-2001) on television of Xena, Warrior Princess.
She was the very model of a heroine barbarian.
Nearly every liberal dogma relies on an ignorance of history and human nature.
the interviewer […] didn’t see a need to challenge it
Well, no; the thing about Hollywood is everyone has such fragile egos that no one will ever say anything negative about anyone for fear of never working again. It took years for people to let slip that Linda Fiorentino was a nightmare to work with.
Xena, Warrior Princess
Those shows were odd ducks. Despite being hugely popular at the time and inspiring a horde of knockoffs, they had almost no impact on pop culture. Hardly anyone remembers them, there are no iconic quotes from the series.
Xena, Warrior Princess
The Other Half is currently watching an episode of Blake’s 7. I can’t be sure, but he may be watching it unironically.
‘Funnily enough, however, contact with Elena’s bohemian, hippy circle in Rome did make me realize that whatever I am, I am not that…I had no money, no job, and I survived by giving English lessons. I couldn’t be anything but a bohemian. But I didn’t like those hippies – especially the American ones who had such a high opinion of themselves, the sole ground for which was that they were in a state of rebellion against their parents. You know, I had a father against whom it was quite legitimate to be in a state of rebellion, but I didn’t go around announcing it to the world and making it into my way of life. Whereas they, mostly spoilt brats from middle-class households, thought this was a vindication of their existence and a proof of their creative genius.’
—Conversations with Roger Scruton, Bloomsbury, 2016
Well, no; the thing about Hollywood is everyone has such fragile egos that no one will ever say anything negative about anyone for fear of never working again.
I figure those interview shows exist to promote “product”, not to seek knowledge and understanding.
The Other Half is currently watching an episode of Blake’s 7. I can’t be sure, but he may be watching it unironically.
[ Recoils in horror. ]
I fear that an intervention may be necessary.
he may be watching it unironically.
I caught some of it and, I have to say, it wasn’t quite as bad as I’d remembered. Yes, the sets were cheap, and the effects less than special, but it did have Jacqueline Pearce being imperious and striding around a quarry in heels and a highly unsuitable outfit. Oh, and Betty Marsden, of Round The Horne and Carry On, as an interplanetary slave trader.
it wasn’t quite as bad as I’d remembered.
Damning with faint praise. And if the chief merit is “she looks good in revealing clothing” that’s even more damning.
Ever heard of the movie category “young woman takes off her clothes”? Yes, she looks good in her skin, but the plot is silly and the acting is mediocre to poor. Of course, the same thing could be said of the first Star Trek movie, in which far too many minutes were devoted to a fanboyish look at the Enterprise.
Not that I’m judging your other half. I’m never judgemental.
I say again, Betty Marsden as an interplanetary slave trader.
I say again, Betty Marsden as an interplanetary slave trader.
That went right past me, as I did not recognize the name. But Wikipedia reminds me that I still have not seen the popular Carry On films.
A while ago, I re-watched Carry On Screaming. I chuckled and I’m not sorry.
he may be watching it unironically
I have a copy of Blake’s 7 that I’ve not yet watched, but it’s worth noting that Farscape is effectively a big budget remake. I find with a lot of classic SF the SFX (good or bad) distract from the writing. Whether the same scripts would be watchable if the show had a modern CGI-infused SFX budget is the standard I use; by that standard a lot of well-regarded SF fails, while many long-forgotten gems hold up surprisingly well.
In its defense, I will say that Hercules & Xena were outright intentional comedies. The reason Xena‘s ratings slipped post season 4 was the show taking itself far too seriously. Many of the readers here will not be surprised to learn that the decline in quality coincided with the arrival of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci as executive producers.