Reheated (73)
Some items from the archives:
On pronouns, politeness, and the strange mental rumblings of Ms Laurie Penny.
Regarding rudeness, I’m generally polite by default, at least in person, and don’t go out of my way to needlessly put a kink in someone else’s day. I’ve had perfectly civil chats with people who regard themselves as transgender or gender-non-conforming or whatever. Nobody got upset. But what is often being asked – or demanded – is not a small thing, not in its implications.
Taken broadly, we are being asked to affirm, wholesale, a bundle of phenomena that includes not only actual gender dysphoria, whether the result of developmental anomalies or childhood molestation, but also autogynephilia, serious personality disorders, adolescent pretension, and assorted exhibitionist and unsavoury compulsions. The expectation seems to be that we should take these different phenomena, with very different moral connotations, as being one and the same thing, and then defer to them, habitually and uncritically. Which is asking rather more than can readily be agreed to.
At Middlebury College, woke piety erupts. A 74-year-old scholar is quite literally chased off campus.
Note that the rather animated protestors don’t seem too familiar with Dr Murray’s research and commentary, and as one of Middlebury’s sociology professors noted, “few, if any” of the protestors had ever read Murray’s books. Evidently, he’s nonetheless someone to be othered and to whom the students can attach the usual out-group labels – denouncing him as “sexist,” “racist,” “anti-gay,” and a “white nationalist.” (As even the briefest use of Google would reveal, Murray married a Thai woman while in the Peace Corps, has mixed-race children, has tutored inner-city black children for free, and was an early advocate of gay marriage – hardly the most obvious markers of a supposedly anti-gay white nationalist.)
But Why Aren’t People Rushing To Buy My Art?
Deep thoughts, shifting paradigms, and heads wrapped in meat.
For those who may be confounded by the profundity of the piece, a handy walk-through guide is available. Said guide points out that the performance will encourage among onlookers “a deeper level of critical thought.” Of the many ruminations that will doubtless be inspired is the following: “After seeing someone wrap their head in meat twice, does it still hold the same weight as it did the first time?”
The guide notes, rather earnestly, that the first attempt, by Mr Carvalho, to envelop his head in bread, string, and assorted meat products, prompted more amusement from the tiny audience than the subsequent repetition of it by Ms Cochrane. This is presented as an invitation to “a fundamental shift in paradigm” and some allegedly profound insight into gender politics. Or, how “different actions are read on different bodies.” Our artistic deep thinkers are seemingly unaware of the concepts of novelty and diminishing returns.
There’s more, should you crave it.
Also, open thread. Share ye links and bicker.
Taken broadly, we are being asked to affirm, wholesale, a bundle of phenomena that includes not only actual gender dysphoria, whether the result of developmental anomalies or childhood molestation, but also autogynephilia, serious personality disorders, adolescent pretension, and assorted exhibitionist and unsavoury compulsions. The expectation seems to be that we should take these different phenomena, with very different moral connotations, as being one and the same thing, and then defer to them, habitually and uncritically. Which is asking rather more than can readily be agreed to.
All. Of. That.
All. Of. That.
The links in the original paragraph are, I think, instructive.
“After seeing someone wrap their head in meat twice, does it still hold the same weight as it did the first time?”
What a time to be alive.
What a time to be alive.
Did the art not leave you enriched, ennobled and tumescent with sensory pleasure?
Lol. No.
In the performing arts, only a cis, yte, homophobic, transphobic, et., would think this sort of thing is just an attention seeking fad.
Also reheated, but updated, the wonders of, “Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine”.
the wonders of, “Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine”.
Because what we need more of, obviously, are people like this.
It was common in the good old days for patients to be bled until they died–that is how George Washington died–in an attempt to cure them. Sounds lovely.
It is for sure a luxury belief that you can toss modern medicine overboard. Only people without open wounds or malaria could be so casual about it. This is the same type of person who wants to toss fossil fuels, cars, and modern agriculture out. It will all go so splendidly when we just eat nuts and berries and sleep under the stars.
All. Of. That.
Poking through that old thread, I rediscovered my new favourite band name: Pronouns in the Bush.
It’s that or Meat Tissue.
Remember Stephen Fry? It used to puzzle me how a mere actor came to be promoted as a pan-competent public intellectual.
It will all go so splendidly when we just eat nuts and berries and sleep under the stars.
We’ll be eating each other. Start making lists of “greens” and “progressives” who should be eaten first. Can’t get gasoline for your tractor? Chain a dozen Extinction Rebellion activists to your plough. Sound fair?
It is for sure a luxury belief that you can toss modern medicine overboard.
Well given that modern medicine has corrupted science ..and business, and government…at some point modern medicine becomes excess ballast. Big tanks of it anyway.
the wonders of, “Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine”
There’s a real – but tiny – issue with presentism in medicine. For instance, leeches are currently used to treat certain types of complications in reconstructive surgery. Research into the use of various aboriginal groups’ use of local plants to treat illnesses has revealed that those plants often have chemical compounds in them that are not present in North American and European flora.
But hose are rare corner cases. There’s a gulf of difference between “oh hey, turns out willow bark has salicylic acid in it” and “slap some mud on it and pray to the Great Manitou”.
Side note: I’m used to this bollocks here because the Indian are our native class of race grifters, but are there a lot of local tribes in Minnesota? How likely is it that a doctor is going to ever come into contact with one of these “indigenous ways of healing”?
Ecological restoration is like ‘gender confirmation surgeries’, trans river scientist tells Princeton students
are there a lot of local tribes in Minnesota?
I think the name itself is from a local tribe’s language. Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minnehaha Falls, Lake Minnehaha – the Minn- part means water or something. The Midwest had the Plains Indians – probably many of the same tribes as in central Canada, and probably fought each other over land and whatnot before the Europeans came. The US has slavery to be endlessly guilt-tripped over, so the indigenous race grifters never got quite the foothold here that the Canadian ones did. They’re getting louder though – we just renamed a baseball and an American football team because of it.
What’s fun about Minnesota is they also imported a metric butt load of Somalis to the area. How this will play out with the indigenous movements will be interesting, since the Somalis are an intersectional twofer of black and muslim, and that’s a winning hand in grievance poker.
Evidently, he’s nonetheless someone to be othered and to whom the students can attach the usual out-group labels – denouncing him as “sexist,” “racist,” “anti-gay,” and a “white nationalist.” (As even the briefest use of Google would reveal, Murray married a Thai woman while in the Peace Corps, has mixed-race children, has tutored inner-city black children for free, and was an early advocate of gay marriage – hardly the most obvious markers of a supposedly anti-gay white nationalist.)
In clown world it’s much braver and more difficult to say things than it is to do them. Actions are merely performative, while woke words are always true.
…trans river scientist…
Talk to a salmon – ripping off Zappa, I see.
What’s fun about Minnesota is they also imported a metric butt load of Somalis to the area.
Also “fun” because Somalia is a low-trust, ultra-tribal society, in which it is normal and customary to cheat and do harm to people who do not belong to the tribe.
The commonality to all of the woke stuff, whether throwing overboard medicine or capitalism or white people, is that they just discovered that the world is imperfect, and their solution is to toss it all (or burn it down, literally). Fixing stuff is just too…complicated.
Well given that modern medicine has corrupted science ..and business, and government…
You have the proverbial cart before the horse, particularly the latter.
There are four tiers: 1, the “providers” (which now includes doctors, PAs, NPs, and in some places chiropractors and other voodoo types); 2, the ancillary staff (nurses, lab guys, X-ray techs, pharmacists, etc.); 3, facilities staff (maintenance, food service, cleaners, etc.); 4, administrators.
Just as in “education”, from the time I started school to now, the ratio of 1-3 (necessary) to 4 (mainly straphangers), has completely inverted primarily because of government mandates and regulations that bleeds over into the business side, and of course there is nonsense like this which is all too common on this side of the big ditch as it is in the NHS.
has completely inverted primarily because of government mandates and regulations that bleeds over into the business side
And who do those government mandates benefit? The mandated (via insurance companies, driven by the lawyers, and accepted by the my-my-what-opportunities-do-we-have-here doctors) trips to specialists based on f-all because family history be damned if there’s nothing there but family-history all-in at the slightest indicator keep the Mercedes maintained and gassed up. How many doctors have protested and/or refused to give mandated vaccinations? Some, yes. But the rest of the profession got on the shaming bandwagon. Brier patches and all.
And who do those government mandates benefit?
The government, the first rule of any bureaucracy is to expand the bureaucracy.
…accepted by the my-my-what-opportunities-do-we-have-here doctors…
No brush too broad, no paint too thin once again. If by accepted by, you mean forced OK. I get you don’t like doctors, and in the whole larger community of so-called health experts there is some serious jackassery but you have no real clue how the system works.
If a doc makes a referral, it is either because a diagnosis is in doubt, or get a higher level of care, e.g., your GP sending you to a cardiologist for a sketchy EKG. The only way a doc makes any money from a referral (possibly) is if the ICD 10 coding for the whole visit (mandated by both the government* and insurance companies for reimbursement) bumps the reimbursement by a penny on the dollar.
However, both the government** and insurance companies have an army of people who scrutinize the coding, and will be on the doc like a duck on a june bug for bogus or what they think is erroneous coding or “excessive” referrals, and if some second guessing coding clerk decides you referral wasn’t warranted, you don’t get the extra cent. To make it more exciting, in many instances, if the doc your GP sends you to doesn’t have a referral, the referral doc may not get paid because the government and/or insurance companies will deem it unwarranted out of hand.
Of course the Catch-22 is worrying about “defensive medicine” wherein if a doc doesn’t refer there are shysters waiting in the wings because both they and the patient who read WebMD and know more. Many such cases.
Just a piece of cake. Your apparent belief that doctors refer to other specialists just to make a buck borders on pathological.
How many doctors have protested and/or refused to give mandated vaccinations?
Around 60,000 docs and real scientists signed the Great Barrington Declaration, and, aside from the fact that during the recent brouhaha most vaccinations were given by drug and grocery stores, as well as who the hell knows in parking lots, a doctor “refusing” would either sued and/or censured in some way.
*(Medicare, Medicaid, TRICARE, or any other government payer)
**(Is how the scammers get caught, whether there are too many or too few scrutineers is open for debate)
Steve E,
So: Words speak louder than actions.
The mantra of the incompetent through the ages.
Re: “inverted”. When people complain about education quality and cost, I show them this
https://www.heritage.org/education/report/how-escalating-education-spending-killing-crucial-reform
And that’s from ten years ago.
The only way a doc makes any money from a referral (possibly) is if the ICD 10 coding for the whole visit (mandated by both the government* and insurance companies for reimbursement) bumps the reimbursement by a penny on the dollar.
Or the doctor makes money working for his doctor corporation that expects certain things to be done according to the corporate/insurance playbook. Especially when the referred/recommended specialists work for the same corporation. Because going outside that corporation is very likely to be outside the plan, thus your Hobson’s choice.
Yeah, I get that the lawyers are scum. I used to side with the doctors and insurance companies in this big stupid mess. So the lawyers bought off the insurance companies and the doctors went along for the ride. Many (most?) doctors might argue that they haven’t but essentially, maybe not consciously, they have. The lawyers definitely drove this but over the decades the doctors have been cornered and many allowed their profession to be cornered. My complaint is they seem quite, quite willing to pretend to the gator-arms excuse. I was holding on to a shred of respect for them going into this pandemic crap but they totally lost me between not standing up for the dissenters in their profession and especially at chopping the dicks and breasts off of children. Two symptoms of the same disease. They could stop this crap dead, but they won’t. Too afraid of “being sued or censured in some way”. Tying that together with things I recently witnessed and had to put up with myself(“Gee if you are concerned about this vaccine, where would you have been during the days of polio?” Bullshit), the consequences of the continued arrogance of the medical profession got me thinking maybe, maybe the lawyers have a point. Not that those arrogant scum…well, a pox on both your houses.
Meh. Maybe the’ll wake up and the children will get lucky.
….like a duck on a june bug.
I’m having some difficulty visualising that.
“All Things Reconsidered“: When did you stop listening to NPR? What in the world happened to NPR? Former listeners want to know why NPR became a propaganda organ.
I figured that out decades ago. Better late than never, though. Welcome.
Gee if you are concerned about this vaccine, where would you have been during the days of polio?
There’s an interesting thesis that purports to show that the introduction of the polio vaccine lags the precipitous drop in polio cases, which implies polio simply burned itself out and the vaccine was irrelevant.
I can’t be arsed to dig into the argument to see whether there’s confounding factors (like time delay in reporting) but the thesis is out there.
When did you stop listening to NPR?
When they stopped playing music. Do they play music at all anymore? As I recall, their raison d’être was to bring classical music to we great unwashed rock-and-roll loving idiots. Then they caved in to playing jazz. The higher form of negro music. I used to listen on my way home from work. I noticed at some point that when I worked late, they transitioned to Terry Gross (fresh air is produced in Philadelphia, doncha know). Then the news started earlier. Then even when on occasion I left work early, it was all news all the damn time. THEN I stopped listening to NPR…btw, wasn’t it PRI at some point, but RINO senators objected to the new name?
There’s an interesting thesis that purports to show that the introduction of the polio vaccine lags the precipitous drop in polio cases
See, this is the sort of thing that at one point I would have dismissed out of hand as not worthy of consideration. While I still doubt it and can’t be arsed myself, it would only mildly surprise me if it were true. The thing that really gets me about the polio parallel is that it took many, many years to get it right. Many people were killed and hundreds if not thousands paralyzed by the early attempts at producing it. Now when I see the concerns about the Covid vax being dismissed I can’t help but be suspicious. Especially as regards the mRNA ones.
And every one of the significant people involved passed their weed-out course.
So: Words speak louder than actions.
The mantra of the incompetent through the ages.
Agreed. I hope that was understood. I was somewhat alluding to the fact that for the woke, the words of anyone who disagrees with them are violence while their actual violence is free speech. Whether we like it or not, we’re all citizens of clown world now or at least bizarro world.
I just had a sudden impulse to search on “Nehemiah Scudder”. But I’m not going to do it.
And in local politics news.
In clown world it’s much braver and more difficult to say things than it is to do them.
And evidently, as seen in the Turf War post above, one can say, or rather scream, pretty much anything, or the same things every time, regardless of how inapt, irrelevant, or laughably perverse those things happen to be. They’re not even close to arguments or statements of some lofty principle. They’re more like weirdly random incantations. In much the same way that, immediately after the event, several supposedly professional journalists were happy to denounce books that they, like the students, clearly hadn’t read. But they did know that they should pretend to be offended, angrily offended, in order to appear virtuous among other pretending idiots.
Ah, our intellectual elite. So severely educated.
You know, there may be some truth in this.
there may be some truth in this
Remember: “In this house, we believe” is an imperative statement, not a declarative one.
Remember: “In this house, we believe” is an imperative statement, not a declarative one.
I suppose the fact that such displays tend to be pretentious and unconvincing – or fundamentally dishonest – may explain the vehemence and hostility with which they can often be aired. The prickliness, I mean. In my experience, people can get quite weird when you challenge things that they assert but don’t actually believe.
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When did you stop listening to NPR?
When it started sounding like the majority of show hosts became females doing their best at sounding like Terry Gross.
And when Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers retired.
And when Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers retired.
That would be 2012. I stopped listening to NPR around 1990, but occasionally caught Car Talk when it became available as an iTunes podcast, which allowed me to avoid the sanctimony and lies.
Remember: “In this house, we believe” is an imperative statement, not a declarative one.
The imperative statement that I subvocalize is “don’t buy a home in this neighborhood.”
In my experience, people can get quite weird when you challenge things that they assert but don’t actually believe.
The weirdness can be entertaining, I suppose, as least in small doses, but on the whole it makes for a more pleasant day to just avoid such people. On the other hand, there is a social benefit in challenging the beliefs of such hypocrites.
Is he running as a woman?
Interesting riposte.
That’s… odd. My reply to your reply has apparently gone back in time. I have somehow mastered time-travel.
[ Considers possibilities of this new time-bending ability. ]
The world will tremble.
The world will tremble.
Something to calm my nerves, please, barkeep.
[ Considers possibilities of this new time-bending ability. ]
Watch out for time cops.
I could sell tickets to witness this miracle of physics.
Of course, if the error corrects itself, this thread will make no sense.
As a Mexican-born, U.S.-raised scholar*…
Well, there is your problem right there.
Not our best export, apologies to sane people south of the Rio Grande
I’m not a linguist, but the solution to gendered words in Spanish, is to make them French ?
*(Melissa K. Ochoa is an Assistant Professor in the Women’s and Gender Studies Department at Saint Louis University. Her research connects the micro-level displays of power in gender to a larger, oppressive system. ) My surprise is complete.
but the solution to gendered words in Spanish, is to make them French ?
It’s a passive-aggressive revenge for their loss on Cinco de Mayo. Burritos to baguettes.
A new “trans” update to download: gender dysphoria now in three new flavors: Total; Top; Bottom.
Posted by: pst314 | October 12, 2022 at 15:32
Hey pst314-three-hours-in-the-future, what did the Dow Jones open at this morning? Better yet, what is it in your ‘now’?
“What is a woman ?” Your draft board knows.
Hey pst314-three-hours-in-the-future, what did the Dow Jones open at this morning?
That’s enough of that, now. Move along, move along.
Covid vaccine: the rush to create the vaccine led to a “vaccine” unlike any in the past. It is not a live or even killed virus, but a tiny piece of the virus that your body responds to. You never had partial protection against polio or measles, like you do with covid. You got the shot and you were 100% protected for life (or at least for decades). Partial protection is what results from taking that shortcut. Side effects? There is no basis for knowing for this novel “vaccine”. And yet having doubts was tantamount to murder.
“In this house, we believe”
https://www.takimag.com/article/invasion-of-the-nasty-nerds/ – “In its compilation of woozy conventional wisdom, Garvey’s sign is something of a master class in how not to be a critical thinker”
“What is a woman ?” Your draft board knows.
Tweet from (official?) Selective Service: “Parents, if your son is an only son and the last male in your family to carry the family name, he is still required to register with SSS. ”
Something odd about an official governmental agency in the 21st century addressing such patriarchal concerns as only sons carrying on the family name, even if only to dismiss those concerns as having any weight with the draft board. Who would need to be told this? Is it addressing something specific? Are families really petitioning for exemptions on the basis of preserving their name and lineage?
Apart from anything else it goes against the feminist prohibition on associating military sacrifice with male duty and male virtue, on the basis of which “the men who gave their lives on D-Day” can always be expected to be auto-corrected by public officials to “the men and women who gave their lives on D-Day”.
Did people really pick up wrong ideas from Saving Private Ryan, where the principle wasn’t patriarchal (the Ryan name must live on), but matriarchal (Mrs Ryan has suffered enough).
In this house, we give to Derrick Chauvin’s legal defense fund.
And yet having doubts was tantamount to murder.
Or at the very least made one a medical science denier, a fool, just like those tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorists or those aboriginal witch doctors. Though we must now take the aboriginal witch doctors very seriously. They have much to teach us. Unlike right-wing freaks screaming about their “freedoms”.
[ Deletes inexplicable time-travelling comment. ]
It was amusing at first, but now it’s just faintly aggravating.
It was amusing at first, but now it’s just faintly aggravating.
Hey, at least it gave me hope/faith that Western civilization would hold itself together until at least 15:32 GMT. Which is just about the time my grits will be done. Glad I made the effort.
Who would need to be told this? Is it addressing something specific? Are families really petitioning for exemptions on the basis of preserving their name and lineage?
It all started, IIRC, when all five Sullivan brothers were killed when the USS Juneau went down during the Battle of the Solomons. Policy was changed during Vietnam to make any son exempt, current policy below:
DoDI 1315.15 Separation Policies For Survivorship
RTWT, is only 5 pages, bottom line, service members can request, families not so much, but you know if they were to start hitting up congressmen or senators exemptions would be made.
I have somehow mastered time-travel.
That’s one way to salvage the Doctor Who franchise.
https://www.takimag.com/article/invasion-of-the-nasty-nerds/
Some good points in there, mostly based on the fact that men and women’s brains are different and there really are biological differences in what they like and are good at. Also, don’t let them vote.
This bit resonated with me: For instance, sheer numbers suggest that there might be a Michelangelo- or Beethoven-level genius at work in the gaming industry today
Jeremy Soule isn’t John Williams, but he’s up there with Alan Silvestri or Hans Zimmer as a score composer. But since he works in video games no one’s heard his work except those rare times when a game breaks through into the mainstream.
A new “trans” update to download: gender dysphoria now in three new flavors: Total; Top; Bottom.
From the link:
If I had boobs I’d never leave the house. What? Oh, I said that out loud.
Re Taki Magazine link, I liked this
That’s one way to salvage the Doctor Who franchise.
Tall order.
Jeremy Soule isn’t John Williams
Not quite damned with faint praise. John Williams being the John Denver of classical music, so-called.
It all started, IIRC, when all five Sullivan brothers were killed
I think that’s correct. Of course, all males still have to register when they turn 18.
If I had boobs I’d never leave the house.
What, and miss the whole wide world of boobs out there?
It was amusing at first, but now it’s just faintly aggravating.
That’s my goal in life: amusing but faintly aggravating.
Pfizer Executive: Oh, you wanted our vaccine to stop transmission of the virus? Why didn’t you say so in the first place.
I prefer Johnny Williams, of “How to Steal a Million” fame.
I’d be careful about that deletion, David. Asimov pointed out the risks long ago in his papers on Thiotimoline. Might destroy the world!
On second thought…
Meanwhile, from the Guardian, France has found a solution to the energy crisis. How it works in the sumer is not explained, but well done you, France!
However, on this side of the pond, a 41 year old Harvard grad, a true light of the left, has a baffling automotive conundrum.
How many doctors have protested and/or refused to give mandated vaccinations?”
Around 60,000 docs and real scientists signed the Great Barrington Declaration, and, aside from the fact that during the recent brouhaha most vaccinations were given by drug and grocery stores, as well as who the hell knows in parking lots, a doctor “refusing” would either sued and/or censured in some way.
Not to mention the latest California law to beat down uppity doctors who dare dissent from “scientific consensus”.
John Williams being the John Denver of classical music, so-called.
[shrugs shoulders] I like both of them.
All of the things the Left wants (being cold in winter, hot in summer, skipping meat, not going on airplanes, tiny houses) are what we used to call POVERTY.
John Williams being the John Denver of classical music, so-called.
[ Digs out Wild Signals from Close Encounters. Recalls being a wee seedling at the cinema. ]
“like a duck on a junebug” –this means the duck EATS the junebug, not “on” it physically.
John Williams–compared to the alternatives, he is refreshing. Also the number of movies he has done (at any level of quality) is pretty amazing, like 100).
“like a duck on a junebug” –this means the duck EATS the junebug, not “on” it physically.
Visualize a bird (duck, chicken, whatever) energetically pursuing and eating bugs.
From a very old children’s story about happy farmyard chickens: “Everything was bugs for breakfast”.
The punchline arrives before the set-up.
What’s the problem with time travel jokes?
“We don’t serve your kind here.”
Tachyon walks into a bar.
Things are awfully quiet around here.
[ Fruitlessly searches joke book for items that are amusing but faintly aggravating. ]
There once was a lady from Bight
Who travelled much faster than light
She left home one day
In a relative way
And returned the previous night
This sort of problem can be solved by the frequent application of Charles Bronson tactics.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
At three o’clock he had his great fall.
The King set the time machine back to two.
Now Humpty’s unscrambled and good as new.
(From The Space Child’s Mother Goose by Frederick Winsor and Marian Parry)
Really? Am I the only one who finds JW a wee bit…syrupy? I mean, that’s ok-ish for movies but compared to big time movie scores of the past he seems rather lightweight to me. Plus he’s bit ubiquitous. The John Denver thing, somewhat like the BeeGees, good songs done much, much better by others. Though to be clear it’s not so much JW’s written scores themselves, which I do think are rather good, it’s the syrupy production. I was rather disappointed when he took over the Boston Pops. I don’t listen to as much “classical” music as I once did, though I have been back into it just the last week or so. I would be curious if there are other conductors covering his stuff.
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose ship was so long he could stuff it,
Full of extra whale oil, because he was a whaling captain.
“It will all go so splendidly when we just eat nuts and berries and sleep under the stars…”
… and pick fleas and lice off one another. I understand they contain many important nutrients.
I understand they contain many important nutrients.
Did you ever eat a pine tree?
Did you ever eat a pine tree?
“Hi, I’m Euell Gibbons, did you ever lick a river? You may not know it, but some parts of a Maytag washer are edible.”
“Hi, I’m Euell Gibbons, did you ever bite a boulder? You may not know it, but some parts of a Michelin radial tire are edible.”
Old drinking game…
Plus he’s bit ubiquitous.
That’s the problem isn’t it. Over-exposure to anything tends to dull down the impact. It’s like the girl in my grade 12 English class who said she really liked Shakespeare but found he used too many clichés.
John Denver? I loved his duet with Nirvana.
Did you ever eat a pine tree?
You’ll live ’til you’re a hundred, but you’ll wish that you were dead. Johnny Carson.
When you’re approaching forty.
Perhaps the $165M will be some small comfort.
Tall order.
I prefer to think of it as a low bar.
I mean, that’s ok-ish for movies
That was rather my point. Alan Silvestri, Hans Zimmer, even Basil Poledouris are not great “classical musicians” but they are very successful score composers. Jeremy Soule is at least in their league – he certainly understands leitmotif better than Silvestri[1] – but since he works exclusively in video games he’s virtually unknown outside of millennials who grew up consuming Skyrim memes.
she really liked Shakespeare but found he used too many clichés
I have this problem with Tolkien now. Thanks to every terrible D&D knockoff fantasy series, movie or book shoehorning elves, dwarves and not-hobbits-because-that’s-copyrighted into the setting whether they make sense or not, I have to slog through Lord of the Rings reminding myself that it’s the original.
[1] Quick. Hum any Avengers theme
Alan Silvestri, Hans Zimmer, even Basil Poledouris are not great “classical musicians” but they are very successful score composers.
That’s the thing, surely? When I hear music by John Williams or whoever, I’m not thinking of it as classical music. It’s a film score, written for a purpose, a context. The piece Wild Signals, mentioned upthread, won’t be on many all-time playlists. It’s not something I’d often dig out for musical purposes. It ain’t Bach. But in context, in the film, or as a mental revisiting of the film, it’s totally effective, quite giddying, and very much part of what made Wee Seedling Me enjoy that night at the cinema, many moons ago. Likewise, as a feat of composition, the main theme of Superman: The Movie won’t turn heads; but as part of the cinematic experience, excited children in a darkened cinema, or adults of a certain age wanting to relive that tingle of excitement, it was quite a belter.
A banging choon, as I believe the kids say.
https://youtu.be/jvUuMsLsGuk
Time travel. Some kids tv is pretty damned good.