Things Fall From Her Mouth

In other news, Tribbles are real, only they’re not cute and fuzzy, they’re crayfish, and they’re all female (Hey Laurie!), and they’re going to take over the world.

Well, sure, if you think of the article as an attempt to impart accurate information, you’ll be appalled. But if you view it as a man twisting words and basic facts into grotesque balloon animals, there’s a certain morbid amusement to it.
Heh. The Guardian piece by Dorian Lynskey is tagged “far right,” is selectively obtuse, regurgitates dishonest and discredited articles, and repeatedly smears Peterson as trading in “pseudo-facts” without actually providing an example to share with readers. Apparently, we should just agree that this is so, without knowing that it is. It’s the Guardian way. And apparently, the Clown Quarter of academia and its culture of censoriousness and identitarian victimhood are in no way ideological, or dysfunctional or a cause for concern. Finally, we’re told, “There is no need to caricature [Peterson’s] ideas in order to challenge them,” by a writer who indulges in caricature and shies from substantive challenge.
Mr Lynskey, by the way, is a former flatmate of one Laurie Penny.

so what’s all the fuss about?
I think it’s a measure of just how narrow and intolerant “social justice” posturing has become, and of the degree to which being woke relies on pretending. Peterson came to fame by saying, firmly and at some personal risk, that he isn’t prepared to pretend certain things. Whatever his shortcomings, Peterson is a reminder that there’s land beyond the plantation, as it were. That one doesn’t have to pretend.

Didn’t know he was famous for refusing to say up is down. NOW I understand.

one talented Mr. Joseph Ravens
That name rings a bell. Ah yes. Here we go.

…you put in onions and andouille sausage.
For jambalaya, sure. Not in a pure boil. Just water and spice/seasonings.

I identify as hoisin sauce; that also gets me points for being non-white.

Official Person, who, being official, presumably Has A Degree, while Taking My Information: And what is your gender?
Me: Don’t have one.
OP: So you identify as asexual?
Me: No.
OP: So what is your gender?
Me: I don’t have one. I am not a noun.
OP: [Blank stare]
Me: Nouns have gender. People are of one sex or the other.
OP: [Blanker stare, long pause]. What’s a noun?
All this College Education is wrecking our society and I don’t know what to do about it.

All this College Education is wrecking our society and I don’t know what to do about it.
Actual exchange I and a few others recently had with an actual college professor, context of comparing a running competition to capitalism. Shortened for brevity:

CP: But, the main question I am concerned with is the division of the goods based on performance in a competition
Person 1: And I am pointing out that the division of rewards cannot be separated from the methods by which the rewards are generated, when those methods determine the amount of the rewards.
Person 2: In both cases, you imagine some higher power – either a person (like a race director) or a committee (like Congress or our government) deciding what should be of value to people, creating this valuable commodity, and distributing it based on some arbitrary methodology.
Person 3: In both cases, you imagine some higher power
As Milton Friedman famously asked, where will you find all these angels?
Quoting CP from elsewhere: I don’t argue that capitalism does not work or that it is not the best of all plausible worlds. Rather, I focus on the distribution strategies.
he’s not arguing against capitalism. No, no, no, no, no. He likes capitalism. Really. He just thinks that the very thing that makes capitalism work is something he, or those very, very much like him, can appropriate.To not understand (or to pretend not to understand) that such an act undermines the very incentives that create the wealth he/they plan to distribute in the first place, at this point well into the 21st century, well after the fall of the Berlin Wall, etc., is stunningly dense
CP: Well, we do make those decisions via laws, policies and so on as to how the goods are distributed. Examples include tax law, government subsidies, the sale of public resources, and so on.

I identify as hoisin sauce; that also gets me points for being non-white.
Sorry, that is Chinese, all that means on the Great Pyramid of Grievance is that you have better MCAT/LCAT/GRE scores and make more money on average.
Try being pico de gallo for a while and staying away from ICE.

Question for Oz folks, as this was raised in a previous thread, this Harry Windsor aboriginal figure skater…Given that he looks as aboriginal as one would expect a Windsor to look…can anyone hazard a guess as to what percent? I’ve tried to google this and funny as it may be, it’s kinda hard to tell from the search results returned. A few stories mention what I presume are tribes but being a Yank and seeing as John Wayne and John Ford made no effort to “document” the cultural conflict down under, I lack a context for certain terms.

I meant it to be a hopeful and positive observation
Dear Laurie,
(1) No you didn’t.
(2) If you did you’d be off your meds.

. . . this Harry Windsor aboriginal figure skater…Given that he looks as aboriginal as one would expect a Windsor to look…can anyone hazard a guess as to what percent? I’ve tried to google this and funny as it may be, it’s kinda hard to tell from the search results returned. . . .
Judging from the results you report, he’s prolly Australian.

Mr Lynskey, by the way, is a former flatmate of one Laurie Penny.
Oh, come on. Is all left-wing media literally just one big polyamorous clusterf—waitdon’tanswerthat.

From Romy’s link: “We use social norms theory to show that what is perceived as the dominant view may well not be. The ‘silent majority’ is strong. And it only takes one or two people to stop being silent to change what is perceived to be normal and acceptable.”
One waits with bated breath for Tori McKee’s article outlining the way in which Dr. Jordan Peterson’s current celebrity and its attendant demands for a swift auto-da-fé perfectly illustrate this part of her thesis.
It’s remarkable, really, how thoroughly and consistently the Masters of Nuance miss the analogous examples that pass right under their noses.

Also from the linked article: A recent study of London commuters shows that only 11% of women who were sexually harassed or assaulted on the Underground were helped by a bystander.
The linked study has no mention of the 11% figure. The PDF of summary results contains no mention of bystanders whatsoever. What it does show is that three-quarters of complaints involve non-contact harassment, which includes wolf-whistling, comments, and staring.
Now, I can see myself telling the lads to tone it down a bit if they’ve being crude, but how exactly does one intervene to help a poor girl who is being stared at? Are we to constantly surveil the other passengers to make sure their gaze is not fixed inappropriately?
Further, the group reporting the highest proportion of contact harassment is the 25-34 year group, while women 55+ reported no such harassment at all. What do women who came of age 30+ years ago know that our young women don’t? It breaks my heart to think that women who attended school in the early part of this century were never taught about Grrl Power, and instead rely on the kindness of strangers for their safety.
Yea verily, we must redouble our efforts at teaching our neighbors’ daughters how strong they are! That, or recruit an army of grannies to escort them on the Underground until they learn how to survive in the big city.

Jordan Peterson’s current celebrity and its attendant demands for a swift auto-da-fé perfectly illustrate this part of her thesis.
I’d imagine that the possibility of a shift in culture and perception, even a small one, may be particularly alarming if what’s being threatened is to a large extent based on affectation and pretending – an activity to which “social justice” advocates seem to devote an awful lot of time. As noted upthread, I think that’s a big part of Peterson’s sudden popularity – he offered a reminder that one can choose not to pretend.

…in 1989 where Marc Lépine Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi* killed 14 female engineering students.
FTFY
*as he was known for more than half his life

co-ed middle school soccer team….”He grabbed one of my boobs.”
Kinda curious why in this day and age there should be co-ed soccer? If it wasn’t obvious that the boy had overtly grabbed her, I’d guess it was simply an accident of a semi-contact sport.
I worked as a volunteer student mentor a couple decades ago and one of my students was a small-for-his-age but sinewy and scrappy 14 year old wrestler. As there were no girls’ wrestling at the time (don’t know if there even is now but I do know of girls’ weightlifting) and him being in the lightest weight class, he sometimes had to wrestle girls. He and I had a couple discussions about this. This is a bad idea. A very, very bad idea. And I believe some of the trouble this young man got into later in that school year was at least partly attributable to the psychological conflict they put this young man into.

You get the girls inadvertently grabbed all the time in co-ed classes in the grappling arts such as ju-jutsu. Everyone survives. What’s REALLY embarrassing is those “martial farts” that pop out now and then while you’re bouncing about on the mat playing samurai Twister.

When courtship rituals became rude stuff went sideways.
Forced shaming. Felt like a game that went too far. No bowing or pretense or blushing.
Flop sweat and clumsiness used to be glorious. Like learning to play the hurdygurdy.
To cackling old grandmas and such.

“in 1989 where Marc Lépine / Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi killed 14 female engineering students.”
I was an engineer working in Silicon Valley when he did this. I was so shocked that I wore a black armband the next day, even though I am not the kind of person who ever went in for such displays.
It was only at the end of the day that I realized two things: 1) It was Dec. 7, i.e. Pearl Harbor Day, and 2) I was working at a US division of a Japanese company, full of Japanese nationals and ex-pats.
No one said anything, then or later, about the incident. I’m not even sure if any of them were aware of the Lepine massacre.

Everyone survives.
Yes. My concern isn’t so much an immediate one with the young women as it is with the young men. And not the young men’s egos either. Young men, 13, 14, 15 year olds engaging in semi-violent contact with young women, tossing them about like rag dolls and then the young men expected to become perfect gentlemen with likely other girls an hour later is a lot to ask of the typical adult male. And then, at this much later time, the girls, most likely not the ones encountered on the field of “play”, will have their share of the trouble. Yes, at 13 or 14 or so they are similar in size and maaaaybe strength. But changes are happening rapidly at that age. And again, I had long conversations with a young man who was, I thought, handling the situation OK in spite of some of the things he expressed to me. See, way back then I sort of bought into the Narrative a bit myself. This was one of the first things that opened my eyes to how wrong it was.

Don’t hate her too much, she is a psychologically broken creature of pain, who will probably kill herself one of these days.
She doesn’t trip my BPD-O-Meter. She’s exactly what she seems to be: a child of too much privilege and not enough discipline, saying outrageous things in public for attention and secretly craving a strong-willed man who won’t fall for her shit tests.