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Let’s Do It, But In A Way That’s Less Likely To Work

August 14, 2023 84 Comments

Come, huddle round. Let us poke at the Guardian:

We’re a queer couple looking for co-parents to raise a child with.

The parenting pages. Let’s start there.

For us, the ideal parenting setup would consist of three or four of us sharing responsibility for a child (the others involved would also be responsible for providing the sperm).

Providing the sperm. A joyous and maternal turn of phrase. Also of note, the idea of wanting a baby, but with only a third or a quarter of the responsibility. A kind of low-commitment parenting. Bodes well.

The way we see it, why not use the implicit obstacles we face as a same-sex couple to become parents in a way that works for us and redefines the family unit completely?

Eleanor Margolis, the lady keen to redefine the family unit completely – which also bodes well – details some of those implicit obstacles:

There are a number of different matching services out there for those looking to find someone to raise a child with: PollenTree, CoParents, Just a Baby, and others. We haven’t been impressed by the design of the websites

Look, when you’re redefining the family, and redefining it completely, website design matters.

It gets worse.

some of them harbour some distinct creepiness. From men sending unsolicited offers of sperm, to those messaging us with elaborate fantasies about watching one of us give birth to their child, we’ve run into a number of what I suppose can only be called “procreation freaks.”

I guess that can happen when you wander off the beaten track, away from the tried and tested. People at the margins tend to meet other marginal people.

Scrolling through the apps can be a jarring experience in itself when you’re not planning on sleeping with the person pictured. Some of them let you swipe – Tinder-style – through the faces of potential dads, as if what you’re looking for is attraction, rather than someone who’s going to do their fair share of nappy changing.

I say again, redefining the family. By harnessing the untapped power of unrelatedness, diffused responsibility, and a total lack of attraction. And it’s perhaps worth noting that, throughout the article, the potential child is referred to only in terms suggesting some sort of task.

So far, we’ve been on a few “dates” with potential fathers. None have gone horribly, and we’ve met some really thoughtful people, but we’re yet to find anyone we fully gel with.

It turns out that “co-parenting dates” are not without issues:

It’s vital to us that we build a friendship with whoever we decide to commit to, before moving on to the actual, mildly frightening procreation side of things. Call me old-fashioned but if I’m going to have any contact with someone’s sperm, I’d really prefer it if we were friends first.

You see, the person with whom Ms Margolis and her lesbian partner plan to have a child – on what seems to be a time-share basis, via “contact with someone’s sperm” – should at least be tolerable. And not overtly monstrous.

Take that, conventional family structure.

The subject of “queer, platonic, co-parenting meetups” is also raised, along with its complications:

At first, we tried to implement a speed-meeting setup, but in the end, the meetup has established itself as something closer to a support group.

At which point, further comment would seem unkind.

Still, things are not, it has to be said, going entirely to plan:

Leo and I are still waiting to meet somebody right for us. Since starting our meetup group, we’ve been inundated with messages from people thanking us for setting it up. We’ve learned that there are plenty of people looking, like us, to do parenting differently. We just hope that, somewhere among them, is someone for us.

However, Ms Margolis remains optimistic, her dream of parenting differently – much like sharing a villa in Spain – still intact:

It has been energising to see that – niche as it may be – there is a call for this kind of family structure,

Albeit among people with whom the author doesn’t gel, and who often exude, and I quote, a “distinct creepiness.”

Readers are invited to ponder the appeal, for any gentleman with fatherhood in mind, of effectively becoming a sperm donor who is also expected to perform household chores, for many years, and to pay child maintenance. In a sexless relationship with random lesbians who may find him barely tolerable, a necessary complication. But this, it seems, is how one “redefines the family unit completely.” It’s “the ideal parenting setup.”

Oh, and one final conundrum:

but the eggs-to-sperm ratio remains an issue. In our experience, co-parenting seems to overwhelmingly appeal to cis women, trans men and non-binary people assigned female at birth. Without any exhaustive studies on this, I can only guess why.

One more time:

cis women, trans men and non-binary people assigned female at birth.

I think the word that applies here, to all three groups, and which is nonetheless being danced around, is women.

Ms Margolis lives in London. Pronouns “she/her.”

Update:

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Anthropology Free-For-All His Pretty Nails

He Has An Affirmation Mirror

August 13, 2023 54 Comments

Apparently, it’s a thing:

And because you want to know:

Whenever I get down on myself I just need to remember that I am the Pantyhose Priestess! Being the Pantyhose Priestess means I am always proud of myself & that I am above the negativity that surrounds me. I am a smart, beautiful, successful, driven & kind women.

Not merely a woman. He is women.

Update: via the comments:

Mags notes this,

Being the Pantyhose Priestess means I am always proud of myself

And replies,

He shouldn’t be.

Well, it is an odd thing to be proud of. A bit of a stretch, really. It’s not clear to me why autogynephiles should be entitled to pride any more than devotees of any other fetish. Should we applaud and affirm people who like to be spanked, or to wear nipple-clamps, or rubber hoods, or who like to visit schoolgirl sniff parlours? And what about those poor downtrodden members of the eproctophile community?

And yet there are activists who struggle to comprehend why ladies on the whole would rather not have their toilets and changing rooms invaded by porn-addled, cross-dressing misfits.

The kind of men who think that womanhood is ALL ABOUT THE STOCKINGS.

Via.

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Anthropology Free-For-All

I’m Assuming They Haven’t Been Up All Night

August 9, 2023 24 Comments

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Anthropology Free-For-All Pronouns Or Else

Complications Multiply

August 7, 2023 47 Comments

Come, let us browse transgender Reddit, where all is not well, and the natives are restless. You may want to bring sandwiches and a flask of something:

Trans men are getting their posts deleted for saying “guys.” It’s insane.

It’s a special moment. An entirely new complication has been detected. A new source of umbrage. For some, it must be like striking oil:

The r/phallo subreddit has devolved into chaos recently because of their new rule against “unnecessarily gendered language” and some post getting taken down for saying “hey guys.”

A post was written by a nonbinary person talking about how cis women who want phallo (not even going to get into that) and other nonbinary people should be welcomed into a subreddit about creating a penis for transmasc individuals and trans men.

I know. Don’t worry, it will get more complicated.

I looked into the moderation and found out one of the main mods of this ftm-centred, or at least AFAB-centred subreddit, is a trans woman.

Which – lest we lose track – is a gentleman who wishes to be perceived as a woman. Moderating a forum for women who wish to be perceived as men, and who wish to discuss getting a fake penis attached to their persons without some man sticking his oar in. Even if the man in question wishes to be perceived as a woman.

And so, inevitably,

What business does a trans woman have moderating and making decisions about an ftm space? Do trans men literally get nothing lmao? I don’t see trans men moderating and sticking their noses into trans women’s business and subreddits, so why do we get the same treatment?

Readers are invited to devise a diagram or flowchart, some way to track keep of things. Though the above could, I think, be summarised as, “Women should be allowed to have female-only spaces.” Even if those women want to be perceived as men. And yes, today’s word is irony.

Via.

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Anthropology Policing Politics

Just Like You

August 1, 2023 154 Comments

Speaking of crime and punishment, here’s a thread on prison and recidivism.

In short, we’re told – by a civil rights lawyer who claims that “cops and prisons are killing us all” – that neither custodial sanctions nor more lenient attempts at correction have much impact on rates of reoffending. This is then presented, by the same lawyer, as a reason not to imprison the predatory and murderous, who are apparently deserving of our sympathy. Unlike, one assumes, their numerous victims, and future victims.

And so, we arrive at the strange logic that if a person has been arrested many times for behaving like an animal, many times, and has consequently, belatedly, ended up in prison, thereby allowing the law-abiding some relief from his predation, then this is a bad thing. For which, we, not he, should feel bad.

As noted in the discussion, there’s a reliance, not least among progressives, on the notions of deterrence and rehabilitation as being how one determines whether prison is fitting or effective, or even an obsolete institution, something to abolish. But an antisocial moron with poor impulse control is likely to remain so until he dies, or is killed while engaging in criminal activity.

The concepts of punishment and incapacitation – of stopping a monster’s sociopathic activity and sparing others violation and misery, if only for the duration of his imprisonment – don’t seem to figure highly in progressive circles. Where, as we’ve seen, all kinds of contortions are very much in fashion.

Among the replies and linked tangents are some common, if unconvincing, suppositions. For instance, that habitual violent criminals – say, the kinds of creatures who gleefully sucker-punch elderly women because they happen to be of East Asian descent – will somehow be morally redeemed by “affordable housing” and “access to healthcare.”

Oh, and more “theatre” for schoolchildren.

Update, via the comments, where Darleen adds,

Incarceration may not REFORM or stop any particular criminal from committing crime on the outside, but at least law-abiding citizens will get a break from dealing with him for the duration of his sentence.

In reply to which, pst314 quotes Theodore Dalrymple:

Prisoner: “Prison doesn’t do me any good.”

Dalrymple: “Ah, but it does me good.”

Prisoner: “What do you mean?”

Dalrymple: “When you are in prison you are not burgling my home.”

At which point, readers may register that the limited effect of imprisonment – and lenient alternatives – on rates of reoffending could be construed in ways that, shall we say, diverge from progressive orthodoxy. One might, for instance, infer that those incarcerated for serious criminal savagery – and who, on release, continue being criminal savages – are irredeemable, and therefore undeserving of pretentious sympathy. One might even infer that the wellbeing of such creatures is no longer a concern.

Update 2:

In hindsight, this post has become the first part of a trilogy of sorts. See also parts two and three.

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