Inserting Diversity
From the comments – which you’re reading, of course – some rumblings on racially incongruous casting in period dramas.
It began with this item, shared by Aelf, on the BBC’s enthusiasm for over-representing minorities in its dramatic programming, including ahistorically, in period dramas, and to a degree one might consider wildly improbable and therefore distracting.
Regarding which, ComputerLabRat noted,
Indeed. The 2008 BBC production of The No.1 Ladies’ Detective Agency was dutifully observant in terms of racial casting. Which does rather throw into relief the unilateral nature and casual, practised arrogance of the underlying conceit. The urge to insert diversity, in one direction at least, regardless of incongruity.
As seen, for instance, in the pages of British Vogue, where Ms Hanna Flint, “a mixed-race woman, of British and Tunisian heritage,” expressed her dismay that new adaptations of works by Emily Brontë and Jane Austen have “cast the protagonists as white once again.” As if this were some kind of scandal or transgression, for which apologies and recompense were in order.
Presumably on grounds that it is somehow unfair that the Yorkshire moors of the eighteenth century did not entirely resemble twenty-first century London. Where Ms Flint happens to live.
Ms Flint bemoaned the “factory setting of a white perspective” – in tales about white people – and the lack of “historical inclusivity” in adaptations of novels set in rural England in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Given the racial demographics of rural England at the time of Brontë and Austen, it isn’t at all clear what historical inclusivity might mean. Indeed, what Ms Flint seems to want sounds more like ahistorical inclusivity.
Ms Flint informed us that she is “left somewhat cold” by period-appropriate pallor. A train of thought that terminated before arriving at the possibility that others, perhaps some larger number, might be left somewhat cold by modish anachronism and jarring racial contrivance. Neither of which seems likely to enhance any suspension of disbelief, which one might think a consideration when making television drama.
As I said at the time:
It seems to have escaped Ms Flint that, for many, the appeal of period dramas is, as it were, a holiday in time – a brief respite from modernity, its politics and paraphernalia, and perhaps even from those “diverse, multicultural surroundings” that Ms Flint feels should be the foundation of all drama and period-specific programming.
Indeed, this sentiment of retrospective racial correction can be seen in other spheres, including galleries of landscape paintings. You see, depictions of the British countryside from the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, including those by John Constable, are “leaving very little room for representations of people of colour.” And obviously, even the past must be made “inclusive and representative.” Via the medium of pretentious agonising.
Such that gallery visitors must now be warned, thanks to new and ominous signage, that the sight of a Constable landscape may inspire “nationalist feelings” and, worse, “pride towards a homeland,” which is to say, thoughts of historical attachment, continuity, and belonging – thoughts that may be disconcerting or very much frowned upon. If only by the – wait for it – keepers of our heritage.
Though, again, this ostentatious fretting, and the assumption of inserted diversity as some unassailable good, seems somewhat selective in its direction.
And so, we arrive at the idea, common among racial activists, that a country to which you’ve migrated, or to which your parents migrated, should reorganise its history, its cultural memory, in fanciful and jarring ways in order to accommodate you or your racial proxies. Thereby providing the most contrived and overreaching affirmation. As if that were some totally proper and incontestable thing.
With any whiff of hesitation or demurral, any suggestion of factual or dramatic inaccuracy, being hastily denounced as bigotry and wickedness.
In light of which, I’m trying to imagine upping sticks to, say, South Korea and expecting the locals to make their historical dramas flatter and affirm people who look like me.
It’s… odd. A weird thing to demand.





The ethos of the ‘grooming gangs’ as applied to history, literature, and art.
Seeking diversity in law enforcement reaches peak cringe.
Peak cringe so far.
Thus: serial rapist Cliff Mitchell
Closely related:
White Britons, the only Indigenous peoples not considered sacred, whose Ways of Knowing are not to be deferred to, ever, and whose culture and traditions must be erased from history.
I recall Ingrid Lomfors a Swedish government official
Doesn’t anyone in a decision-making position recognize the absolute narcissism here?
Maybe they’re surrounded by so much narcissism that this doesn’t stand out. Or maybe they’re narcissists themselves.
Look, if you move to the UK, you’re moving into a country that absolutely adores making period dramas about its own past and based on its own literature — and most of it is wonderfully done. Exquisite, even.
So it’s dumb to ask them to adulterate that art form just for you.
What you might could do is ask them to make dramas set in the former British colonies — India during the Raj, or along the coasts of Africa, or Hong Kong. There’s a huge list of locales to choose from where the majority population isn’t all pale and stuff.
See? That could end up being pretty interesting. I’d watch it.
It’s not just English literature, look at the upcoming Helen of Troy casting!
Dicentra:”…dramas set in the former British colonies — India during the Raj, or along the coasts of Africa, or Hong Kong.”
Maybe it’s time to reboot ‘Yellowthread Street’?
Indeed. And it would bypass the whole suspension-of-disbelief issue.
As I said in the linked thread,
It seems to me that what’s grating or distracting about pushing for retrospective racial diversity, other than its general cack-handedness, is the expectation that the audience will merrily pretend not to know what the actual history was. As if the entirety of our history, always and everywhere, looked like modern London.
Which itself doesn’t look like the rest of the country, even today.
Musical interlude with harp guitar.
No one would ever complain that ‘The No.1 Ladies’ Detective Agency’ has cast the protagonists as black once again.
The idea that this would be a fashionable complaint, aired proudly and as if self-evident, in supposedly reputable magazines and newspapers, is just a tad peculiar.
And yet…
As Daniel said in an earlier thread,
Quite. And so, there’s a sense that the ostensible story, the thing putting bums on seats, is being made subordinate to a conspicuous incongruity. One that we’re not supposed to acknowledge as incongruous, except in approving or deferential terms. Because the historical or period-specific story you’ve paid to see is, it seems, much less important than “reflecting our diverse, multicultural surroundings.”
And, hey, you’d never tire of that.
Seeking diversity in law enforcement reaches peak cringe.
Only so much of the heft seen can be attributed to Kevlar vests.
What? Are you implying this doesn’t look like the offspring of a swan and a Spartan queen?
Racist Cygniniophobe, you are.
Another example that comes to mind, and which I’ve mentioned before, is the casting of a black actor, Paapa Essiedu, to play the very white Snape in the forthcoming HBO series of Harry Potter.
Now, Mr Essiedu may be an excellent actor. I’ve no reason to suppose otherwise. But given previous race-swapping efforts and the political leanings of those doing the swapping, it’s hard to avoid a suspicion of looming narrative adjustments. And deliberately or otherwise, adding connotations not intended by the author of the novels that are being adapted.
In the books and films there are scenes – for instance, of bullying – that would risk clumsier, quite different connotations with a black actor playing Snape. Perhaps this is the intent, something the writers wish to exploit, but if so, that seems a bit of a liberty. Foregrounding race where it wasn’t previously an issue – or the point of the scene.
Quick, take our picture!
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!
Cringe, as I believe the kids say.
We can never reach peak cringe.
Old: Beyond mountains, more mountains.
New: Beyond cringe, more cringe.
Not entirely unrelated to the post above:
See also this.
And this. From which:
Plenty to chew on in those two, I think.
Schism anyone?
Those in decision-making positions loathe their country, culture, and history, and their only concern is how much they will profit by disposing of same.
More sweet diversity, without which our lives would be so barren.
Crusade!
On my local Chicago TV, lots of ads for pols running for office. Almost entirely black women. They are for medicare for all (barf), ending ICE, legal abortion (called reproductive rights) which is ALREADY legal in Illinois up to 24 weeks, etc. Doubling down, its what they do.
A single ad I’ve seen of a white male republican candidate. For law and order. One.
More cowbell.
There’s no basis for good faith discussion with these people. Their motivations can be expressed in caveman language – this cave ours, white cave ours too – and the rest is chaff to jam the radars.
Remakes expose two contradictory tendencies. In the 1980s teen movie schema imprinted on an older white generation of filmmakers, the natural affiliation of non-whites is with the rebel alliance of freaks and geeks against the pretty, athletic, well-adjusted, WASP popular kids. But a younger generation of non-whites doesn’t want to be classified with the freaks, they want an on-screen world where their people are the beautiful and socially dominant.
I watched Hoosiers recently, and I was fascinated by the background faces in the school and home game scenes – almost all white of a Midwestern US ethnogenesis type, and almost any random pair looked like they could be cousins, and plausibly were given that it was filmed on location in a rural Indiana community that was maybe 5 generations descended from its founders.
The faces in the crowd became blacker as the team progressed to play bigger city schools. And the final was against a black team, which was factual, and the whites winning was factual as well, and without the filmmakers needing to contrive scenes where the white boys’ conscience was nudged that their people were the baddies in a larger scheme of things.
The way to get elected in black-majority districts is to promise lots of Free Stuff–stuff to be paid for with that inexhaustible magic money that wypipo have. A sobering thought.
One benefit to the woke of inserting minorities into historical dramas is the acquisition of unearned nobility points, accomplishment points. You see? We waz kings! and Dukes! and dressed in finery and spoke Elizabethan English!
Some friends started debating ICE. A claim was made that these people are not “illegal”, that they came here legally and are being targeted. Most of the illegals either evaded border patrol or went through the process and never followed up with a hearing or have a deportation order against them. This also ignores that even those “legal” violate the terms of entry by committing felonies.
I think this type of belief is not uncommon.
Another belief is that showing up at a door in tactical gear is excessive, ignoring that agents are looking for convicted murderers etc. likely armed.
Well, the term historical inclusivity – meaning ahistorical inclusivity, or anachronistic inclusivity – does rather resemble an attempt to occlude. An attempt to inhibit realistic thinking.
Regarding which.
Sure, next you are going to be telling me this isn’t accurate.
Meanwhile in Horrywoood! (IYKYK) a half Jewish actress picked for playing a half Jewish half Mexican character cancels herself for not being Mexican enough even though she certainly looks the part.
Love him or hate him, the above (and topic in general) is discussed in more detail here.
Not just wypipo. I recall on-street interviews with the interviewee saying ‘Obamaphones’ were paid for from ‘Obama’s stash’.
Smashing gender norms, you hear.
Or, lippy was applied.
An old favourite movie is the Hepburn / O’Toole heist rom-com “How to Steal a Million”. Takes place in Paris mid-60s I’d guess.
There’s a scene introducing the museum and the statue (target of the theft). The crowd admiring the statue is all white, except for one enthusiastic black couple, briefly centered in the scene.
I think they are the ONLY non-whites in the film. It’s a weird, jarring note. A blatant production / direction choice. What was the thinking here?
For instance:
The original Obamaphone “lady”
I quite liked Peacemaker for the most part.
…or attention seeking narcissist seeks attention.
Divertissement.
[ Rummages in drawer for ancient early-Eighties mixtape. ]
Everyone stand back.
Ow ow ow ….
PS and these are the people who presume … loudly … to be my moral superiors?
Ancient Sweden: if you go back far enough, like 40,000 years ago, Europeans were indeed pretty brown. By 8,000 yrs ago, mildly brown. They got whiter due to the climate and vitamin D.
At the time of the movie in question, they were as white as now.
I’m not familiar with the kind of thing I’m seeing.
Treasure your innocence . . . or what little you have left.
…half Jewish actress picked for playing a half Jewish half Mexican character cancels herself for not being Mexican enough
ummmm – do these Hollywood AWFLs know who the Mexican people just elected as their president? I don’t know her heritage exactly, but I do know that given her surname alone, she would not be getting any diversity points were she applying to Harvard or Yale…