It’s Trivial When The Victim Is Someone Who Isn’t Me
Habitual car theft is a “victimless” crime. Says Nora the socialist:
Nora doesn’t think that a third conviction for car theft should result in incarceration. Because, and I quote, the victims “get new cars though.”
They get new cars though
— Nora Loreto (@NoLore) February 5, 2024
“I write books and I know things,” says Nora, who lives in Quebec, where, in the last year, the rate of car theft has practically doubled.
I wonder if dear Nora has ever paused to consider what stolen cars are very often used for – besides, say, joyriding and endangering other road users. And whether those doing the stealing might often belong to criminal gangs, whose anti-social activities spill over into other areas. Say, smash-and-grabs, and forms of liveliness requiring a getaway car. Or, as Michael Rothe of the Canadian Finance and Leasing Association points out,
And then of course there are these jolly scenes.
But hey, no biggie.
Perhaps dear Nora was too busy airing pretentious sympathy for the practised criminal. Though one might note she seems rather less concerned for the criminal’s numerous victims, and likely future victims, whose violation she denies. Someone who steals a car and is apprehended for the third time is unlikely to have stolen only three cars. And the conviction rate for car theft is around one in twenty.
Perhaps it would be ungentlemanly to wish on dear Nora some first-hand experience of the crimes she so merrily diminishes when inflicted on someone else, someone who isn’t her. Though it is, I think, tempting.
And should this cake need a cherry:
Lifted from the comments, which you’re reading, of course. And yes, regular readers may detect a familiar pattern. One we’ve seen so many times.
Like ‘hard, strategic work’ is something she’s actually capable of…
I want to upvote the title.
Well, it does, I think, convey the basic dynamic. One we’ve seen before, more than once.
Perhaps Nora could get stabbed in the face?
What?
Faces grow back though.
That’s horrifying. The evil f*ckers.
And oh, how they laughed. Those tearaway scamps.
She’s in quebec. Canadians have a thick skin about lunacy from that dystopia.
Victimless crime, my ass.
My wife’s Kia was stolen as a result of the Kia Challenge, where sociopathic urban morons are encouraged to hotwire Kias and videotape the results for LOLs.
The car was found, because my wife cleverly was able to track its location for the police, using the tollway transponder information, which let her know whenever they got on or off the highway.
The police, of course, never found the perpetrators. They didn’t even bother trying.
Meanwhile, so many kias had their steering columns destroyed that there was a backup. We did not get our car back for 7 months.
We are not a well to do family. For the first month, our insurance covered rental. We thought, surely we will get our car back any day now.
And months dragged on. I was starting to consider stealing a Kia for myself and taking its steering column.
Once the renters insurance was over, we had to borrow a car. Until that car broke down because it was old. And then we had to rent a car. Nobody gave us money to do this. We were in real financial distress. Every single day, a lot of money was going down the drain.
We eventually got the car back. But we are much poorer for it, and the struggles we endure during that time were very stressful.
Money means time. If someone steals my money, they are stealing time from my life. Time I could spend on anything I wanted, or even other things I really needed, but instead needed to devote to what someone stole from me. That is my life. I don’t get that time back. It is gone for good.
This bears repeating.
Recreational murder. Stolen car Laughing in court.
Q: Why did they boast to the arresting officers that they would be out in 30 days?
A: Because of how “progressive” monsters like Nora Loreto have perverted the law.
Make sure the owner is one of those morally defective “liberals”.
They’ll get new cars though.
Fair point, every time I have to drive through or have to park in a dodgy area I think to myself “I hope someone steals this BMW I have lovingly maintained for the past 26 years so the insurance will give me enough to buy a brand new Kia”.
Meanwhile the brand new Kia owner is hoping it won’t get ripped off because the insurance will only give him enough to get a third hand beater.
Speaking of liberal attitudes towards sadistic sociopaths: About 30 years ago I started to read accounts of “the knockout game”–a form of ghetto recreation that sometimes resulted in death. My liberal “friends” refused to believe that this existed and branded all such claims as “racism” and “white supremacy”.
Indeed. My 18 year old Toyota runs perfectly, because I have taken very good care of it. But if it were stolen or wrecked the fair market value would only buy a beater which would be ugly, unreliable, and with an expected lifespan of months.
Liberals display the same “So what? Insurance will pay for it” attitude towards theft, looting, and arson. They forget that with every insurance claim the rates go up or the business may be unable to purchase insurance at any price.
Not enough liberals experience the full consequences of their delusional ideas.
And liberals wonder why some folks think Pinochet did nothing wrong.
The thing with cunts like Nora is that everything they opine about is an abstract concept to them. Far from being a sign of high intelligence, their diminution of crime is a product of a lack of intelligence, as they cannot imagine life from someone else’s perspective.
My experience was not unlike Smallish Bees’s. My OH and I are of modest means, which means we live in a shithole area in NW England. His motorbike – his sole means of transport – was stolen at 2am from its spot chained to the wall outside our flat by a gang of youths armed with knives. It was recovered the next day as it had a tracker hidden inside, so we could tell the cops precisely where to find it. Before coming to rest in a chav’s back garden, it had been ridden to a bike dealership, presumably in a farcical attempt to sell it. The bike was trashed, a write-off, so OH now has to rely on the bus to get to and from work, quadrupling his commute time. No magic money tree to replace the bike.
The thieves had all previously been arrested and appeared in court, yet not once imprisoned, for multiple instances of motorbike theft, and one of them for stabbing a man in the chest. I have no expectations that any of them will ever see the inside of a prison; it will be suspended sentences, community ‘work’, and fines – paid for out of their benefits – all round. Because those are such effective deterrents to the habitual criminals who prey on their neighbours.
Quite apart from the negative financial and practical effects such crime has on the victims, there is an unseen but far more negative emotional and psychological effect. That bike was my OH’s, paid for with money he earned through hard work. And it was taken and destroyed by a pack of scum, just because they wanted it. If we had woken and intervened one or both of us may well have been stabbed.
The Victorians had it right.
Absolutely. And it contributes to a wider decline from a high-trust society to a low-trust one.
See also, for example, the lawyer and activist Clive Stafford Smith, mentioned here, who believes – unchallenged by his fawning Guardian interviewer – that the wellbeing of burglars is more important than the wellbeing of their numerous victims, especially if the burglar is a “young black person.” A man who regards anger at being burgled and the subsequent sense of violation as plebeian and unsophisticated, while disdaining the victims’ expectations of justice as, and I quote, “idiotic attitudes.”
See also: Dark Tetrad of personality characteristics.
I have known a lot of people over the years who would latch onto a theory of everything and thereafter be utterly blind to the consequences thereof. Some were very smart while others were quite dull, but it has been pointed out many times that a simple-minded theory can be very attractive to lazy minds: No need to actually think, just turn the crank and out comes the preprogrammed answer.
Abraham Lincoln used to say that when he heard people arguing in favour of slavery that he would like to see it tried on them. It might be illuminating for them if the same were to occur with your liberal ‘friends’ and the ‘made-up’ knock-out game. Ungentlemanly I know, but I’m all about education don’t you know.
I agree. Strongly.
EDIT: I should have written “refused to admit” rather than “refused to believe”: I am certain that they knew I was not lying and that those news reports were correct, but all facts had to be filtered through their ideology.
BTW, they were clearly white, bro. I mean clearly, bro. No question about it bro. You could see this clearly from the reflection in the rear view mirror bro. Clearly bro. Or so read many of the replies on X.
Heh. And what did your conservative friends say? I knew quite a few “conservatives” who said similar things about similar things back then.
My conservative friends gave full credit to those reports.
Stealing cars is amateur stuff, houses OTOH…
The owners get new houses though.
Those who advocate state theft on a massive scale are naturally sympathetic to mere amateurs at redistribution of wealth.
I’m pretty sure that you’re supposed to chase them out of town with nail guns. Whether they survive the hunt is, I’d suggest, morally immaterial.
Insurance company = victim.
Car owner = victm
Employer = victim (missing car can’t go to work for awhile)
To name three.
Alas, there is a huge gulf between “supposed to” and “allowed to”.
But we all can do our part to encourage the necessary cultural shift.
Not entirely unrelated, because diversity is our strength, what could possibly go wrong at a Micky D’s inside a WalMart?
Car theft often leads to a wild getaway and maybe a police chase. Such chases cause fatalities–no biggie though, the fatalities just get another life…oh, wait. Sometimes there are children in the car such as when a car is stolen while gassing up. A parent’s worst nightmare. If victims “get another car” it raises insurance rates for everyone. But seriously, people get hurt and killed in carjackings. What kind of idiot doesn’t know that? Yes, in fact we know what kind of idiot…
OTOH, more of this might help stop some of the shitwittery.
Stealing houses: In minneapolis during a financial downturn, the banks owned lots of houses. Somalis would rent a house, pay rent for a month, and then stop paying. It took six months to get them out and they would go on to the next house. Because, you see, bleeding hearts had made laws so sympathetic to the poor renters that you could not evict them. Clearly, anyone who didn’t pay rent was merely on hard times…as opposed to being criminal. I have heard of similar cases with squatters who move into a house while owners are on vacation and police won’t evict them.
This came to mind:
Doubtless it will again.
A common misconception. The insurance companies just jack up the rates. I mean, at one time they used to care about such things but over the years they have learned to work in league with the lawyers and thus they are effectively a branch of the government. The government, composed almost entirely of lawyers generates more business for themselves by letting the criminals free. The insurance companies and the government are enabling this.
Added: generally not a fan of this phrase but…follow the money.
This. I’m no gentleman, or lady, so my Dark Side wishes she would experience this firsthand, and see how she likes it.
Then again, didn’t we have some pretentious bint featured here who was virtue signalling furiously after having had her home burgled while she was in it, and her car stolen, too, I think.
So even if the lovely Nora were car-jacked, even at gun- or knife-point, she’d take to the airwaves defending the poor car-jackers who just needed a ride to the store where they were going to steal a loaf of bread to feed the young-uns and get medicine for the baby.
This bint here.
At the rate things are going Nora and her ilk are likely to find they don’t much care for the world they’ve worked so strategically for.
But Heaven knows they’re quick to have a fit when insurance rates rise.
This is the guy the (supposedly) red-pilled billionaire is backing. Because of course. Ooh, the hope I feel for our elites leading us out of the darkness. The darkness that seems to have appeared out of nowhere. Almost overnight. Just ask the billionaire.
Terrible crime in Texas.
Not everything remains lost.
Given the state of the criminal justice system this may not remain an outlier.
I laughed. So sue me.
Their Freudian slip is showing.
Seeing as how we are going off on tangents…
You want to make a production for Disney? No problem…
…at least as long as you follow this handy chart.
Meanwhile, an intellectual explains how God touching David [sic] in the Sistine Chapel is the height of yte supremacy.
Wednesday Ephemera: Blazing Saddles was released 50 years ago today.
Hollywood had enough trouble making good movies when their business decisions were dominated by “can you act/direct/write a good screenplay”.