It’s Trivial When The Victim Is Someone Who Isn’t Me
Habitual car theft is a “victimless” crime. Says Nora the socialist:
Nora doesn’t think that a third conviction for car theft should result in incarceration. Because, and I quote, the victims “get new cars though.”
They get new cars though
— Nora Loreto (@NoLore) February 5, 2024
“I write books and I know things,” says Nora, who lives in Quebec, where, in the last year, the rate of car theft has practically doubled.
I wonder if dear Nora has ever paused to consider what stolen cars are very often used for – besides, say, joyriding and endangering other road users. And whether those doing the stealing might often belong to criminal gangs, whose anti-social activities spill over into other areas. Say, smash-and-grabs, and forms of liveliness requiring a getaway car. Or, as Michael Rothe of the Canadian Finance and Leasing Association points out,
And then of course there are these jolly scenes.
But hey, no biggie.
Perhaps dear Nora was too busy airing pretentious sympathy for the practised criminal. Though one might note she seems rather less concerned for the criminal’s numerous victims, and likely future victims, whose violation she denies. Someone who steals a car and is apprehended for the third time is unlikely to have stolen only three cars. And the conviction rate for car theft is around one in twenty.
Perhaps it would be ungentlemanly to wish on dear Nora some first-hand experience of the crimes she so merrily diminishes when inflicted on someone else, someone who isn’t her. Though it is, I think, tempting.
And should this cake need a cherry:
Lifted from the comments, which you’re reading, of course. And yes, regular readers may detect a familiar pattern. One we’ve seen so many times.
Like ‘hard, strategic work’ is something she’s actually capable of…
I want to upvote the title.
Well, it does, I think, convey the basic dynamic. One we’ve seen before, more than once.
Perhaps Nora could get stabbed in the face?
What?
Faces grow back though.
That’s horrifying. The evil f*ckers.
And oh, how they laughed. Those tearaway scamps.
She’s in quebec. Canadians have a thick skin about lunacy from that dystopia.
Victimless crime, my ass.
My wife’s Kia was stolen as a result of the Kia Challenge, where sociopathic urban morons are encouraged to hotwire Kias and videotape the results for LOLs.
The car was found, because my wife cleverly was able to track its location for the police, using the tollway transponder information, which let her know whenever they got on or off the highway.
The police, of course, never found the perpetrators. They didn’t even bother trying.
Meanwhile, so many kias had their steering columns destroyed that there was a backup. We did not get our car back for 7 months.
We are not a well to do family. For the first month, our insurance covered rental. We thought, surely we will get our car back any day now.
And months dragged on. I was starting to consider stealing a Kia for myself and taking its steering column.
Once the renters insurance was over, we had to borrow a car. Until that car broke down because it was old. And then we had to rent a car. Nobody gave us money to do this. We were in real financial distress. Every single day, a lot of money was going down the drain.
We eventually got the car back. But we are much poorer for it, and the struggles we endure during that time were very stressful.
Money means time. If someone steals my money, they are stealing time from my life. Time I could spend on anything I wanted, or even other things I really needed, but instead needed to devote to what someone stole from me. That is my life. I don’t get that time back. It is gone for good.
This bears repeating.
Recreational murder. Stolen car Laughing in court.
Q: Why did they boast to the arresting officers that they would be out in 30 days?
A: Because of how “progressive” monsters like Nora Loreto have perverted the law.
Make sure the owner is one of those morally defective “liberals”.
They’ll get new cars though.
Fair point, every time I have to drive through or have to park in a dodgy area I think to myself “I hope someone steals this BMW I have lovingly maintained for the past 26 years so the insurance will give me enough to buy a brand new Kia”.
Meanwhile the brand new Kia owner is hoping it won’t get ripped off because the insurance will only give him enough to get a third hand beater.
Speaking of liberal attitudes towards sadistic sociopaths: About 30 years ago I started to read accounts of “the knockout game”–a form of ghetto recreation that sometimes resulted in death. My liberal “friends” refused to believe that this existed and branded all such claims as “racism” and “white supremacy”.
Indeed. My 18 year old Toyota runs perfectly, because I have taken very good care of it. But if it were stolen or wrecked the fair market value would only buy a beater which would be ugly, unreliable, and with an expected lifespan of months.
Liberals display the same “So what? Insurance will pay for it” attitude towards theft, looting, and arson. They forget that with every insurance claim the rates go up or the business may be unable to purchase insurance at any price.
Not enough liberals experience the full consequences of their delusional ideas.
And liberals wonder why some folks think Pinochet did nothing wrong.
The thing with cunts like Nora is that everything they opine about is an abstract concept to them. Far from being a sign of high intelligence, their diminution of crime is a product of a lack of intelligence, as they cannot imagine life from someone else’s perspective.
My experience was not unlike Smallish Bees’s. My OH and I are of modest means, which means we live in a shithole area in NW England. His motorbike – his sole means of transport – was stolen at 2am from its spot chained to the wall outside our flat by a gang of youths armed with knives. It was recovered the next day as it had a tracker hidden inside, so we could tell the cops precisely where to find it. Before coming to rest in a chav’s back garden, it had been ridden to a bike dealership, presumably in a farcical attempt to sell it. The bike was trashed, a write-off, so OH now has to rely on the bus to get to and from work, quadrupling his commute time. No magic money tree to replace the bike.
The thieves had all previously been arrested and appeared in court, yet not once imprisoned, for multiple instances of motorbike theft, and one of them for stabbing a man in the chest. I have no expectations that any of them will ever see the inside of a prison; it will be suspended sentences, community ‘work’, and fines – paid for out of their benefits – all round. Because those are such effective deterrents to the habitual criminals who prey on their neighbours.
Quite apart from the negative financial and practical effects such crime has on the victims, there is an unseen but far more negative emotional and psychological effect. That bike was my OH’s, paid for with money he earned through hard work. And it was taken and destroyed by a pack of scum, just because they wanted it. If we had woken and intervened one or both of us may well have been stabbed.
The Victorians had it right.
Absolutely. And it contributes to a wider decline from a high-trust society to a low-trust one.
See also, for example, the lawyer and activist Clive Stafford Smith, mentioned here, who believes – unchallenged by his fawning Guardian interviewer – that the wellbeing of burglars is more important than the wellbeing of their numerous victims, especially if the burglar is a “young black person.” A man who regards anger at being burgled and the subsequent sense of violation as plebeian and unsophisticated, while disdaining the victims’ expectations of justice as, and I quote, “idiotic attitudes.”
See also: Dark Tetrad of personality characteristics.
I have known a lot of people over the years who would latch onto a theory of everything and thereafter be utterly blind to the consequences thereof. Some were very smart while others were quite dull, but it has been pointed out many times that a simple-minded theory can be very attractive to lazy minds: No need to actually think, just turn the crank and out comes the preprogrammed answer.
Abraham Lincoln used to say that when he heard people arguing in favour of slavery that he would like to see it tried on them. It might be illuminating for them if the same were to occur with your liberal ‘friends’ and the ‘made-up’ knock-out game. Ungentlemanly I know, but I’m all about education don’t you know.
I agree. Strongly.
EDIT: I should have written “refused to admit” rather than “refused to believe”: I am certain that they knew I was not lying and that those news reports were correct, but all facts had to be filtered through their ideology.
BTW, they were clearly white, bro. I mean clearly, bro. No question about it bro. You could see this clearly from the reflection in the rear view mirror bro. Clearly bro. Or so read many of the replies on X.
Heh. And what did your conservative friends say? I knew quite a few “conservatives” who said similar things about similar things back then.
My conservative friends gave full credit to those reports.
Stealing cars is amateur stuff, houses OTOH…
The owners get new houses though.
Those who advocate state theft on a massive scale are naturally sympathetic to mere amateurs at redistribution of wealth.
I’m pretty sure that you’re supposed to chase them out of town with nail guns. Whether they survive the hunt is, I’d suggest, morally immaterial.
Insurance company = victim.
Car owner = victm
Employer = victim (missing car can’t go to work for awhile)
To name three.
Alas, there is a huge gulf between “supposed to” and “allowed to”.
But we all can do our part to encourage the necessary cultural shift.
Not entirely unrelated, because diversity is our strength, what could possibly go wrong at a Micky D’s inside a WalMart?
Car theft often leads to a wild getaway and maybe a police chase. Such chases cause fatalities–no biggie though, the fatalities just get another life…oh, wait. Sometimes there are children in the car such as when a car is stolen while gassing up. A parent’s worst nightmare. If victims “get another car” it raises insurance rates for everyone. But seriously, people get hurt and killed in carjackings. What kind of idiot doesn’t know that? Yes, in fact we know what kind of idiot…
OTOH, more of this might help stop some of the shitwittery.
Stealing houses: In minneapolis during a financial downturn, the banks owned lots of houses. Somalis would rent a house, pay rent for a month, and then stop paying. It took six months to get them out and they would go on to the next house. Because, you see, bleeding hearts had made laws so sympathetic to the poor renters that you could not evict them. Clearly, anyone who didn’t pay rent was merely on hard times…as opposed to being criminal. I have heard of similar cases with squatters who move into a house while owners are on vacation and police won’t evict them.
This came to mind:
Doubtless it will again.
A common misconception. The insurance companies just jack up the rates. I mean, at one time they used to care about such things but over the years they have learned to work in league with the lawyers and thus they are effectively a branch of the government. The government, composed almost entirely of lawyers generates more business for themselves by letting the criminals free. The insurance companies and the government are enabling this.
Added: generally not a fan of this phrase but…follow the money.
This. I’m no gentleman, or lady, so my Dark Side wishes she would experience this firsthand, and see how she likes it.
Then again, didn’t we have some pretentious bint featured here who was virtue signalling furiously after having had her home burgled while she was in it, and her car stolen, too, I think.
So even if the lovely Nora were car-jacked, even at gun- or knife-point, she’d take to the airwaves defending the poor car-jackers who just needed a ride to the store where they were going to steal a loaf of bread to feed the young-uns and get medicine for the baby.
This bint here.
At the rate things are going Nora and her ilk are likely to find they don’t much care for the world they’ve worked so strategically for.
But Heaven knows they’re quick to have a fit when insurance rates rise.
This is the guy the (supposedly) red-pilled billionaire is backing. Because of course. Ooh, the hope I feel for our elites leading us out of the darkness. The darkness that seems to have appeared out of nowhere. Almost overnight. Just ask the billionaire.
Terrible crime in Texas.
Not everything remains lost.
Given the state of the criminal justice system this may not remain an outlier.
I laughed. So sue me.
Their Freudian slip is showing.
Seeing as how we are going off on tangents…
You want to make a production for Disney? No problem…
…at least as long as you follow this handy chart.
Meanwhile, an intellectual explains how God touching David [sic] in the Sistine Chapel is the height of yte supremacy.
Wednesday Ephemera: Blazing Saddles was released 50 years ago today.
Hollywood had enough trouble making good movies when their business decisions were dominated by “can you act/direct/write a good screenplay”.
Great googly moogly, this is long, but worth a read. Mark Steyn’s opening statement in Michael Mann’s defamation suit against him.
Indeed.
And today the defense rested, so I guess it now goes to the jury.
A District of Columbia jury.
Prayer is indicated.
Via Ace, a feminist manifesto courtesy of the taxpayers, etc. in the UK. No true monkeys were available for comment.
I was thinking of George of the Jungle just the other day.
You’ve got to wonder about the mental stability of these “powerful feminists” with all their howling, barking, pussy hats, and so on. Likewise those who listen to them.
…a feminist manifesto…
Rita Panahi always comes up with some corkers, check out the first and last here. The middle is par for the course for the ilk, but the last one not doing his any favors.
ISWYDT
Nora’s description of herself as a “Chialeuse” is Québécois patois for a woman that argues. It other words a woman who bitches. Seems appropriate for a socialist
I recently saw a satirical blog post laying out a detailed plan for
conqueringliberating Canada. Significantly, it left Quebec to fend for itself (not worth the trouble.)David, is your mind a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives?
Is your date “trans”gender?
So Ms DiAngelo is a self-styled intellectual, an expert in “critical discourse analysis,” and says was raised a Catholic, but she doesn’t know to whom God is bestowing life in one of the most famous religious paintings in human history.
Ms DiAngelo’s inadequacies have been mentioned here before, of course, along with her devotees’ obvious mental health problems.
Definitely Cluster B. If it happened to her she’d be duly outraged but she’d never reconsider her former position as it relates to other people. Who for her are mere props in her psychodrama.
Elon? He’s a Vivek guy. He’s never mentioned that stiff on X.
It’s like an actual witch trial. These people are seriously twisted.
Well, yes. It’s easy to laugh at Ms DiAngelo’s scholarly shortcomings, the sheer fatuousness of it all, and I have wondered how it can be that she isn’t laughed out of every room she enters. What she peddles is pernicious flim-flam, and obviously so. But as seen in the linked video, her devotees include many unhinged and appalling people. People who are entrusted to shape the education of children.
The scenes that resemble a witch trial – and in which we see competitive, near-orgasmic scolding, accompanied by screeching and fits of hysteria – were recorded during a meeting of the New York City Community Educational Council, which provides “hands-on leadership” to the district’s public schools. They may be neurotic, spiteful, and unmoored from reason, but these people have influence. And as seen in the video, they’re determined to inflict their demons on others.
Starting with children.
Well worth reading. Nonetheless, I fully expect to see Mr Steyn found guilty and required to pay $37 million in damages.
Getting back to Nora The Socialist™ (odd way to spell commie, but OK) an interesting statistic about the incarcerated, though I am not clear on the distinction between “legally innocent” prisoner and someone who is just plain innocent.
Not to start a religious war (no need to prepare the galleons) in her (somewhat) defense, I find Catholic laymen, and even some clergy, a bit weak on their knowledge of what is actually in the Bible. Especially the Old Testament. Fortunately Michelangelo wasn’t one. But then that was back in the day a bit.
Following that link yields an explanation: “Legally innocent” is a euphemism for “not yet convicted, awaiting trial for a crime serious enough to preclude release on bail”:
Note that jails are chiefly for short sentences and for criminals awaiting trial, while prisons are for convicted criminals undergoing longer terms of incarceration. Many people do not clearly distinguish between the two, and thus can be easily confused by the left’s rhetorical word hi-jinks.
No, the Harvard alum. Bill Ackman. I just couldn’t remember his name. Conservatives was getting all juicy pantsed when he and his Harvard alum woke up to find out who was running their precious university. Not exactly red pilled to support idiocy-light like Dean Phillips.
Another passage from that link:
Once again, we have a professor of criminology who wants criminals released to commit more crimes. This is a consequence of allowing the left to infiltrate and subvert our educational institutions: Liberals who preferentially hire leftists and leftists who only hire other leftists.
The people of Salem were not known for their sense of humor. Nor the (totally unexpected) Spanish Inquisition, nor the Cultural Revolution, nor…well you get the picture. This stupidity persists because people are afraid to speak up. They know if they dare do so, unless from a very safe distance and sometimes not even then, they will pay the consequences. And when someone does say “f*** the consequences” they are vilified for “being stooopid”. Dumb. Like Donald Trump dumb. He’s enormously wealthy yet they are preparing a prison cell for him. What chance do you have by yourself, little peon?
Thus creating more opportunities for criminologists. In a society without honor, what should you expect? Subsidize something, get more of it. They are overwhelmingly government employees. Not many regular people are hiring professional criminologists for work around the house. Well, not to do any criminology anyway.
Having tackled all the important problems, a Labour MP (himself a woman) wants the dead to be able to be able to change their “gender”, nothing about their pronouns though.
It’s all so tiresome: Bobbi Althoff interviews sukihanagoat.
I have no idea who either of these females are, and the full interview seems to be available only on TikTok and Instagram, but I cannot think of a reason to aggressively confuse “musician” and “magician” which does not betray mental defect.
Well, why not? They already have the vote.
Marone – “Helpful steps for transitioning at Delta”, no no, that doesn’t mean from a first officer to captain or from a turbo prop to a 757.
What could possibly go wrong?
Indeed, or, one they just can’t let go, to find a way to call the British countryside a “…colonial space”.
This shameless and ungrateful grift gets wheeled out, with minor variations in dishonesty, every few months.
I’ll just leave these here, I think.
[ Added: ]
This, from the first of the linked posts, seems apposite:
Or worse.
Road trip?
Sounds like they’re upset because they can’t steal things as easily.
It cannot be said too often: DEI activists are enemies of civilization.
the British countryside a “…colonial space”.
Er…who colonized who and when in this scenario? Did it occur after there was a place formally recognized as Britain? Before? The Romans colonized the area way back – were the local tribes magic black or brown people? Magic indigenous? As a member of a former British colony, I’m confused.
From Londinium to Londonistan in a thousand and some years – there’s definitely some colonization of the area, but it’s not the British doing it.
More from this post:
I could of course bang on, but there’s dinner to prepare.
I seem to recall that, during the Jim Crow era, there were places where white people were allowed to cast votes for dead relatives on the grounds that they knew how the deceased would have voted. Completely open and above-board*, unlike Chicago where the graveyard ballots would be counted in back rooms.
* For certain values of “above-board”.
…were the local tribes magic black or brown people
As seen in these pages a few days ago, The Magic 8 Ball says “Signs Point To Yes”.
That might have been The Magic Screwball, I get them confused.
Historic Brits black? ahahha it was very bad skull bone detective work. Up to the quality standards of woke “scholarship”. However, the very earliest brits and Europeans in general, like 30,000 yrs ago, were probably somewhat tannish compared to today.
Time to post this classic mockery:
It cannot be said too often: DEI activists are enemies of civilization.
Bosh, bollocks, balderdash. DIE is our strength.
More on the racist and colonial countryside.
Well, we don’t know if any DEI hires were involved in this accident, but there is no doubt that DEI can only mean more accidents.
Heh. Sports gnome Steph Smith gets Red Pilled. Never saw this one coming.
She’s a community organiser who thinks that hard, strategic work will bring about the revolution
Oubliez-vous ca, Jacques. C’est Ville de Quebec.
an illegal strip club, complete with […] live horses on the property
I have many questions.
Once again, we have a professor of criminology who wants criminals released to commit more crimes.
I hate to engage in the time-worn Canadian hobby of being exasperated by how little Americans know about Canada, but do not make the mistake of assuming Canadian law restricts the police the same way yours does. In Canada you can apply for a “record suspension” after 5-10 years, which is near as dammit a pardon; also it’s illegal to disclose a person’s criminal records without their consent. The combined effect of this is that the police here can and do arrest citizens on the flimsiest of pretexts and hold them as long as they can in the hopes of squeezing out a guilty plea, using “it can be wiped later” as incentive.
You’re falling for the Bezmenov tactics. The fact that “defund the police” wacktivists exist does not mean police corruption doesn’t.
Speaking of Canada, my apologies on behalf of all normal Americans.
…in her (somewhat) defense, I find Catholic laymen, and even some clergy, a bit weak on their knowledge of what is actually in the Bible…
We don’t know chapter and verse like the Prods, but we get the catechetical Cliff notes, and we have paintings and statues to make an impression on children. We might not know the character actors, but Adam and David are among the star players who even indifferent Catholics are likely to recognize.
All of her stories are well-rehearsed. If she wasn’t 100% sure who was depicted in the picture, she’s had the time to “research” it on Wikipedia. This display isn’t momentary absentmindendness. It’s not to be read as an anti-intellectuual gesture, because that’s something her type accuses the other side of. It’s a display of contempt towards white culture, which she considers as immoral for having a Renaissance without consulting Netflix, and therefore sometimes having four whites in a frame without a black.
Speaking of Canada, my apologies on behalf of all normal Americans.
So, living in the Yukon Territory is like living in Alaska only with fewer people. Can’t see it having a particularly easy go of things, given some of the people who live there. Although, the miners and oil guys get pretty drunk when they come into Whitehorse to spend their paychecks.
Say, $1 million?
Say, $1 million?
Exactly. And the jury was very clear about why they were doing it – as an example for anyone else who dares to publicly disagree.
I admire Judith Curry. That same litigious little toad who couldn’t prove defamation damages spewed his vitriol about her”denialism” far and wide and actually did end her academic career. But she successfully built up a private business doing work similar to her research, so good on her. She gets to keep going, until the toad decides to sue her.