Just Let Me Check Who I Am
From the Telegraph, the thrill of modern high-street banking:
If your eyebrows have even twitched ever so slightly, you’re a very bad person.
Because the above is part of an “LGBT-friendly diversity measure,” endorsed by Stonewall, and is therefore beyond reproach. Indeed, it’s the very measure of moral sophistication. The cutting edge of corrected thought. And employees who aren’t sure who or what they are at any given time must be encouraged to enact their “masculine and feminine” personas according to mood and medication.
Hence the double-sided lanyards, obviously.
It’s not just a matter of lanyards, of course:
Oh shiny tomorrow.
Employees have also been trained in “how to confront non-inclusive behaviours.” Which I’m assuming includes customers whose eyebrows are not yet under control.
We have, needless to say, been here before:
Because “gender fluid” and “bigender” employees should have “multiple pass-cards with different forms of gender expression or linked email accounts / intranet accounts with different names and photos.” You see, “workplace equality” will apparently be enhanced by enabling “non-binary employees to have their identities recognised on all employee-facing workplace systems.”
And by introducing confusion and farce into the workplace, along with security complications and a kind of obligatory collective pretension. Such that employees may be unsure of which make-believe “identity” a colleague is inhabiting on any given day and, consequently, which email address to use in order to avoid complaints or claims of being oppressed.
But hey, banking and mental illness, together at last.
It’s not going to end well, is it?
We are, it seems, in the Uncanny Valley. Everyone remember where we parked.
Long time listener, first time…
Then there is this utterly insufferable fursona
https://cohost.org/stillinbeta/post/1847579-that-time-i-posted-m
The entitlement, lack of self awareness 🤦♂️
Does this rat-baggery apply in the board room as well? There will be burst capillaries around the gills on a few old troopers. Would like to see shareholders at the AGM sporting their loopy lanyards, with those flashing LED’s for the special occasion.
Pull up a stool. I’ll start a bar tab.
What could go wrong?
New NatWest ad slogan?
Just imagine going into your local branch (a feat of imagination in itself considering the number of closures):-
“Good morning. I was in here yesterday and spoke to Mark. He told me to come back today”.
”I’m afraid Mark is not in today”
”But I can see him sitting at that desk behind you”
”That is Martha. I have just told you Mark isn’t in today”
””This is silly. Can I just speak to him”.
””We do not tolerate misgendering our colleagues. Your accounts will now be closed. Good day (bigot – muttered under breath but still loud enough for anyone in the next postcode to hear)”.
You seem to have given this more thought than the NatWest has.
All bank adverts piss me off these days. I never thought I’d miss Howard from the Halifax.
Given that Nigel Farage, and several other people, have had their accounts closed do to perceived wrong-think it’s not something that requires imagination. Of course good ole Rishi has risen to the fight saying that banks can’t do that, isn’t cricket you know, and they’ll be investigated. Of course for those affected who aren’t powerful and hugely wealthy the process is the punishment and their lives – and credit ratings – will be severely affected while sorting it out.
One of the things about failing to teach history is that people don’t realise social mores tend to swing back and forth. Everyone just knows that the British are uptight because – Victorians, innit? How many know that the social conservatism of the Victorians was a response to what was, with minimal hyperbole, a constant rolling sex and alcohol party. Victoria essentially looked around when she got to the throne and said, “No, we shan’t be having that anymore.” and you got covered piano legs.
It will snap back and boy howdy will it be brutal.
I wonder what NatWest’s insurers think about putting people with obvious mental illness in charge of customer’s money and personal details. I’m sure they’re sleeping soundly… just like babes.
I’m guessing this is the same NatWest, once a part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group, that HM government bailed out to the tune of £48,000,000,000 ($61,000,000,000 US) back in 2008, taking an 84% share in its ownership?
The same NatWest that HM government sold its shares in just last month for almost half of what they had originally paid (500p a share in 2008 vs 268.4 a share in 2023)?
I see.
@long time listener, first time
A word to the wise; don’t complain about the beer being cloudy, you’ll be fobbed off with the excuse that the glasses are dirty. Oh, and the pickled eggs are supposed to be covered in green fur.
Do help yourselves.
Heh. Re hypothetical Mark/Martha…back in the bad old 80’s when I worked launching space shuttles, one of my coworkers was gay. Of course this being the 80’s and the job requiring a secret clearance this was…problematic. Thus it was something kept on the QT by us younger people who had figured it out. So anyway, when said coworker referred to his significant other, he would use the name ‘Mary’. Apparently his SO’s name was really ‘Mark’ and one day he started to say ‘Mark’ but caught himself just in time and stopped at ‘Marrrr’. So in order to sell this save, he said that was his new pet-name for ‘her’ and from that point on that was the name he used. Long before the That’s Pat SNL skit about Pat/Pat and Chris/Chris, ‘Mar’ was our term for an abstract person of undetermined gender. It never made it all the way into a technical manual but it was in a first edit of a change/update that I know of. Not saying how I know…
Thus people who have a sense of history and try to keep themselves and the world around them, what little influence they have on the latter, on an even keel are almost perpetually viewed as socially awkward.
Problematic due to security concerns re vulnerability to blackmail. But if he is not closeted, he cannot be blackmailed. But with the trans and queer spectrum of sexualities, we have the problem of numerous accompanying behavioral disorders.
“gender fluid” and “bigender” employees
I first read “bi-gender” as “big-ender” and thought, “Oh, is that what the fat-asses want to be called now?”
I read it a ‘big-ender’ and it makes me think of the dispute Jonathan Swift wrote of between them and the ‘little-enders’ about the correct way of cracking a boiled egg.
I wonder if, along with two-sided identity lanyards, aspiring transsexuals also receive an Aston Martin with a revolving license plate, and keys to storage boxes in various train stations–complete with boxes of passports, false mustaches, enormous wigs, and stacks of cash in various currencies.
Or Jonathan Swift’s war between the Big-endians and the Little-endians.
Or the war between IBM Big-endians vs. Intel Little-endians.
“We don’t care what you call us, as long as you notice us.”
Band name.
I see.
First, only two gender identities? What about the non-binaries or any of the too numerous to count “genders”? Doesn’t sound very diverse, inclusive, and equitable.
Regardless, let us say you are some factotum in the Luton branch and need to contact some counterpart in the London branch do you guess what the London guy is today – might not be a Mx but some other made up nonsense – do names in the address book change color? Are there signal flags? What if the guy changes suddenly in the middle of the day?
Important questions that need to be answered now that they have all their other problems sorted.
I’m guessing this is the same NatWest, once a part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group
It still is part of the RBS Group – TPTB in the company decided to go with the NatWest name as a trading name because of the very nasty smell the RBS name has – starting with Fred Whatsisname.
It can happen. As noted here:
And more generally, as a group, people with unstable personalities are much more inclined towards behaviour that is erratic, impulsive, and often manipulative. Not ideal in, say, banking.
Or indeed the police force.
They’re actually ridiculing themselves and this concept, but they don’t notice because of the mind warping coverage they get from the media.
How about they just wear tags announcing “I am legion”?
if those ‘identities’ are alternating rapidly and involuntarily
Hmm: mostly quite deliberately, and with malice, or at least narcissism, aforethought, I’d guess…
Not ideal in, say, banking.
Wait, you are saying this woke preening might have something to do with their overall lackluster performance?
I am pretty sure a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic suggestion like that warrants regrooving.
Here’s the thing…Banks are all about confidence. Faith. Consistency. I’m not saying people should boycott, I more question the financial intelligence of people who put their money there. Of course bank deposits are mostly insured these days but if I had a business moving hundreds of thousands of dollars around, amounts much greater than the insurance limits, I’d be thinking real hard about moving my business elsewhere. Though with the recent failures of Silicon Valley Bank and the crypto bank fiasco, I suppose those are wink-and-a-nod insured. If you care to rely on that. But of course thinking such bad-thought is nearly criminal in even moderate sized businesses these days…bah…nevermind…
So rapidly as to induce seizures. OSHA should get involved.
Much of what the left does seems calculated to transform us from a high-trust society into a low-trust society.
Much of what the left does seems calculated to transform us from a high-trust society into a low-trust society.
Indeed. Divide us by male vs female, races, religions and have us tear at each other’s throats. Not high trust. A low trust society sucks. Every transaction is like a hostage exchange. Retail goods are locked up. Stores must pay for guards so prices go up. Since you don’t trust the cops to protect you or your store, people become vigilantes. It is ugly.
Have to wonder if they would extend the same . . . courtesy . . . to an employee who occasionally ‘identified’ as a thief?
Doesn’t that presume the NatWest has given it some thought?
Ooh, wild camel. Putting on the dog for the neophyte.
Involuntarily?
Please pardon a certain soupçon of doubt.
Putting on the dog for the neophyte.
Unfortunately, putting on the dog is probably not an idiom in this case.
Here’s some good news. In light of the SCOTUS decision regarding gay cakes and such, businesses are deciding to advertise that they do not do business at all with certain kinds of people, Trump supporters mostly. I look forward to being so discriminated against.
Thereby simultaneously advertising their “virtue” and their ignorance of the law (or their dishonesty).
If a business did discriminate thusly, it might be possible to sue them for large sums.
It could be argued that dishonesty is an integral part of their ‘virtue.’ As is their ignorance.
Meh. I was denied a job opportunity, a WFH job I could likely do in my sleep, during the summer of the pandemic. I passed the interview quite easily. They gave me a “logic test” which I not only got everything right on but I also pointed out where a couple of their questions were a bit open ended and not properly worded, giving separate correct answers for each interpretation. As we were going through the benefits/health insurance/etc. etc. etc. paperwork the George Floyd riots went into full swing and several corporations were announcing that they were financially supporting BLM. As one of the questions I have been repeatedly asked when applying for security clearance jobs has been “Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or any organization that advocates the violent overthrow of the United States and its constitutional form of government” I thought it prudent to ask if this company (contracting company) or whomever the ultimate customer was (some health system or such, I believe in South Carolina) was financially supporting BLM. I emphasized that my question was specific to BLM, the organization, and only that organization, in the light of my security clearance concerns. They gave me the “we support the NAACP and yadda yadda” or something similar (not BLM specifically), but since I asked such an impertinent question, they could not employ me. If that is not, as I have been told/researched on legal forums, a legitimate reason to sue, I doubt it’s possible to sue a business for not serving you for having certain political beliefs.
But you know what you can sue for in this country? Just say that you walked across some organization’s pool deck, stepped in a chemical, and lost a toe because of that…well that and diabetes. You can sue for that, costing said organization tens of thousands of dollars in insurance fees. That you can sue for. Sure, you may not win, in fact the case doesn’t even have to get to court, though it likely will. Not to worry, some lawyer will take your case and you can use that threat to try to extort a settlement. These are the things you can do and you cannot do with the laws in this country. Get it?
And to be clear, by “just say that you walked across some organization’s pool deck…” I don’t mean hypothetically hypothetically, I mean you just say that you did. You don’t need to produce one shred of evidence that you were ever even there. In fact you can demand that the organization provide the evidence. All of it. Pool records, records of all maintenance people that might have been there. They can ask YOU to provide the pond for them to fish in.
I’ll bet that these two women are not really women.
Dishonest descriptions of suspects can lessen the likelihood of their capture, but the left only cares that criminals not be “misgendered”.
In the same vein An Actor!™ (D List) chimes in:
Good luck enforcing that you nitwit.
I’ll bet that these two women are not really women.
Nonsense, quite common for boys to be assaulted by women 2SD and 6SD above the average UK height of 5’4″.
“We’re gender refugees,”
Needs them, mind you, the city was becoming an absolute LGBT34WD40+ desert and being overrun by yte supremacist right wing reactionaries. I am sure Texas, Florida and other states are aghast at the loss.
Thousands of people are leaving Texas, Florida and other states that are waging a culture war on LGBTQ+ people. Portland needs them.
Portland can have them. Enjoy the crime, drugs, feces, homeless encampments, and high taxes.
“We feel unsafe” shout the hysterics in the alphabet rainbow cult as they run screaming to some progressive hellhole. Heh – drug-addled homeless and the BLM progressive shopping scene crowd don’t bow to your rainbow flag. Good luck in your new home.
Can’t speak for Florida and other states but Texas is just flabbergasted.
No, really.
Pinky swear.
You can laugh but there truly is a mass psychosis happening. It has been slowly coming on for a couple of decades but it is very real now. These people are not playing. They really, truly believe this crazy shit and many of them are people who don’t let on because many of them are genuinely afraid like these people fleeing to Portland. This idiocy has taken such a broad foothold because these people so rarely see or encounter anyone expressing a normal perspective on life such that they really, truly believe that the few normal people they do see expressing normality are the crazy kool-aid drinkers. Look at how many regular people have fallen for the numerous hoaxes, especially my personal litmus test the Trump-told-people-to-drink-bleach hoax. If you think someone like Jake Tapper or Jen Psaki or your overly politicized next door neighbor or such is only pretending to believe this “obvious” BS you are yourself a certain degree of delusional. These crazies are real and they are not all the ones with purple hair and neck piercings. They are your bankers, your pastors, your grocers, your electricians, your engineers, and especially your doctors. As every institution has been corrupted, the much broader influence those institutions have beyond their own members and stakeholders into the general population is doing much greater damage.
Again, this is how most people think.
That would seem to be an obvious issue. If your financial affairs are being handled by someone whose identity is so unstable that Harry could be Helena on any day you happen to interact – complete with wig, make-up, and a different personality – and then be Harry again, and then Helena again… well. This does not result in confidence.
That this detail should have to be pointed out is itself hardly comforting.
I’ll bet that these two women are not really women.
For the benefit of our US friends this incident took place less than 10 miles from Brighton, a city with distinct similarities to both Portland and the Castro district of San Francisco. The report from Sussex police, copied verbatim by the media, has allegedly caused considerable interest to the recruitment section of the local ladies basketball team.
Astonishing.
Especially the fact that ‘They arrived’ links to the earlier ‘They left’.
It’s quite eye-opening to compare the comments of those leaving to those arriving.
From ‘They left’:
From ‘They arrived’:
From ‘They left’:
From ‘They arrived’:
And:
The reasons Krajcer gives for embracing Portland like a warm security blanket:
It’s also worth noting how the “culture war” referred to in the article is, as usual, presented as some ex-nihilo conservative phenomenon, waged inexplicably and entirely without cause. As if it were merely some random act of malice.
Rather than, say, a somewhat belated pushback to the never-ending overreach of ‘progressives’ – and regarding issues of obvious contention and moral seriousness. Say, the sterilising and mutilation of children, a phenomenon mentioned in the article only in affirming terms.
That, as they say.
We see sterilisation and mutilation of children. They see scientific studies that hormones might alleviate suicidal ideation in trans adolescents – 11 years old in this case.
On the subject of scientific studies i draw your attention to the late Professor John Money. Arguably one of the more evil, perverted and deranged individuals to ever draw breath. The icing on the cake is that at the time of his death, well over a decade after his theories had been utterly discredited, he still held the position of Professor of Paediatrics and Medical Psychology at Johns Hopkins University. (This may have been on account of tenure but, if so, it would have been politic for the University to issue a statement of disassociation and preferably outright censure).
On the plus side, the bank will have no trouble demonstrating that they meet equal opportunity targets – at least on the right day. Who needs affirmative action programs when employers can just offer inducements to identify as the gender required in the workplace?
(And if employees can identify differently on different days, no reason they can’t identify as one gender in the workplace and drop the pretense off hours.)
https://youtu.be/js5-OsdvqTY
Again for the benefit of US readers here is a much-beloved British comedian back in 1976.
Two favorites: My blackberry is not working and Four candles.
Well, you can imagine my surprise.
Just a one-off.
https://reduxx.info/rest-in-power-drag-queen-story-hour-uk-founder-fundraising-for-convicted-child-sex-offenders-funeral/
Another one-off. Close little community aren’t they?
It’s quite eye-opening to compare the comments of those leaving to those arriving.
“A sucking chest wound from a bum stealing my phone is a small price to pay for being able to see “pride” flags and not having my feelings hurt.”
Ah, those super-tolerant people who can’t bear the sight of lawns with Trump signs on them, or Republicans more generally. Because people who don’t vote Democrat want to harm lesbian couples or something.
This came to mind, as did this. In both cases, it’s worth noting how the objects of contempt appear to be much nicer and more neighbourly than the spiteful neurotic bitches badmouthing them in print.
Needless to say, more examples are available.
I laugh because there truly is a mass psychosis happening. There’s not much I can do when reason takes a holiday.
Much like the Canadian shop teacher with the two pigs in a sack strapped to his chest.
What was parody is now holy writ.
Always liked The Two Ronnies.
“thousands fleeing”–objection! Facts not in evidence!
As WTP said, they are panicking about a fantasm.
Also Dave Allen.
Would they be unable to do this sketch today?
OVER/UNDER:
How long before the MGM Sphere Is politicized? And which branch of wokeness will it be pushing on us?
I give it until August 1, and climate.
https://twitter.com/TheLastDon222/status/1676727657055260673?t=97pbOHiXWZgsqy2o-3RxUA&s=19
You laugh because neither you nor anyone you truly care about is directly affected by the consequences of such a mass psychosis. You have that luxury. Some do not. Other do…until they don’t.
It sounds better if you say it in French.
You make assumptions unsupported by fact.
To the Manor Born and Keeping Up Appearances were also well worth the time.
The extremism over environmental concerns was a precursor to all of this which was never addressed properly by the right. The belief that the profit mechanism or something else would somehow override the fear instilled was a very risky play. Now that the corporations have been usurped by the watermelon crowd, or even those pretending to be watermelons…my god how deep these deceptions can go..,the power of profit has been ju-jitsu’d.
Astonishing. Especially the fact that ‘They arrived’ links to the earlier ‘They left’.
In reading through both articles, ‘They arrived’ is written as woke boosterism while the ‘they left’ sprinkles bits of ‘good riddance’ throughout. Yet, the compare & contrast is still pretty stark.
And the claim that a phantom 260K movement of paranoid TQ+ will rival the Dust Bowl migration? I note that nowhere in that article is any mention that California has already lost population for 3 straight years (estimated total net loss of 500K).
Yeah, don’t want to explore why people are leaving the CA ‘paradise’, eh?
There is some evasive dancing around the assumptions and voting vanities that exacerbate the dysfunctions that people are fleeing. In other words, a concentration of ‘progressives’ and the consequent, pretty much inevitable, degradation.
We do, however, get glib lines about “good riddance to the capitalists” and people “sounding like Ayn Rand.” Yes, those awful “capitalist” people who’d rather not find bloodied needles in their gardens, where children play, or have their homes broken into, and who would rather not have a “familiar ambient noise” of street racing, screams, and gunfire.
One of my favorite examples: Communists pointing to occasional food safety violations as proof of the evils of capitalism, while ignoring the pervasive food safety problems in communist regimes. When the Party owns the “means of production” and the police and courts, routine and gross violations of the putative rules are ignored.
This right here is how the whiners/commies win. Nothing is perfect. Success is often seen and described by people on the right by what works. The left focuses on what doesn’t work. Which gives the left tons more material to work with. If the right passes on its numerous opportunities to brashly and loudly point out how government, and more broadly monopolies, don’t work, out of some silly notion of propriety or whatever style points they think are important, the left will prevail.
I think reflecting on some past protests throws some light on the present. Remember “occupy wall street”? And several others followed. They thought it was just fine to make lots of people suffer, they made a mess, crimes happened in their tiny enclave, and they were incapable of governing themselves. But the key here is their demands: end capitalism, shut down wall street. So this is what they think is a reasonable demand. End the modern banking system that makes business possible. End the stock market that makes it possible to have a retirement account. All while these dimwits had cell phones and nylon tents made by big corporations. The idiocy just reeks. And the local gov just let them. This is what they are about. Ending our way of life.
Yes. So why are we just letting them do so? Which side is more suicidal?
Surprised they’re not calling it a ‘crime of fashion.’
Indeed. My personal favourite is Ontario’s Walkerton water tragedy, where blindingly incompetent government employees were taken as proof of the dangers of private ownership of water utilities.
The crazy just keeps piling up: That trans Philadelphia mass killer says he did it to “help the city do something about gun violence”.
Doctors Frankenstein now have a robot.
“It’s not going to end well, is it?”
“it” never does. Bang, whimper, and all that jazz…
I’d rather entrust my care to Marvin the Paranoid Android.
My personal favourite is Ontario’s Walkerton water tragedy, where blindingly incompetent government employees were taken as proof of the dangers of private ownership of water utilities
As I recall it, bottled water from those eeeevil private corporashuns was trucked in, and was the only reliably safe drinking water.
…blindingly incompetent government employees…
Sorry, forgot to italicise the quote (there’s a change!!!) in the comment above.
Back on topic, the functionary in charge at Walkerton went on to another government job in another town, without any consequences.
That seems to be the default position of most government bureaucrats…and all socialists.