Withdrawal Symptoms
Or, Our Betters Breathe Deeply – Into A Paper Bag:
Mr Tiedrich tweets about Donald Trump many times, every day. And Ms Vee meditates, you know.
Update, via the comments:
Jen quips, “They’re going to miss him.”
Well, I suppose that if your peer group is one that requires endless, competitive signalling – via breathless claims of how monstrous and fascistic the current incumbent of the White House is, and how mentally debilitating even thinking about him is, which you nonetheless do, every day, of course – then the prospect of losing that object of hate, and status, must be a cause of… mixed feelings. Though it’s quite odd how the people who imagine themselves our political betters, the ones to whom we should defer, are very often neurotic monomaniacs whose minds seem bizarrely fragile and forever on the verge of coming undone.
Update 2:
In the comments, Martin adds, “Most of them are just acting.”
That seems quite possible. Certainly, pretension and role-play are signatures of the woke, and of leftism more generally. But here’s the thing. If, as Ms Vee and others claim, the thought of Donald Trump induces panic attacks, psychological crises, and difficulties breathing, for years, then, clearly, there’s something wrong with you. And if you feel a need to repeatedly and very publicly pretend that the thought of Donald Trump induces panic attacks, psychological crises, and difficulties breathing, for years – along with impotence and flaccidity – then… well, there’s something wrong with you.
As to which of the two compulsions is more dysfunctional, I’m not entirely sure.
Via Garbage Human, who adds, “Imagine thinking this is a reflection on Trump.”
Consider this an open thread, in which to share links and bicker.
Again, the whistling thing.
We’re not actually disagreeing, WTP.
Study history. Study revolutions.
I have. They rarely end up the way the revolutionaries think. That’s why I think this one will remain at a low simmer, executed by the public unionized and paramilitarized police forces rather than by the Democratic government giving the order to roll tanks.
And as Richard says, the military is not on our side.
Some of it is, some of it isn’t. How much and which units line up on each side is completely unknown, and will be unknown until the shooting starts. I think the Democrats know that pulling that particular trigger creates chaos they will not be in control of.
just acting
Ben Jonson’s Timber
We certainly live in interesting times. This thread bounces from cat hijinx to the possibility of civil war in the US. Living life in the abstract.
Anyone with ideas on other countries as an option?
Costa Rica? I’ve heard the weather is eternally spring there. Not sure about the politics or safety. I’d prefer to splinter off and reboot the Republic, since the Constitution was a pretty good blueprint for success while we followed it. Get rid of the 16th and 17th amendments for starters.
Ben Jonson’s Timber
Wow. People should be reading more Ben Jonson.
Christopher Marlowe too, come to think of it.
just acting
The above, from R. D. Laing’s Knots, came to mind.
“Here are seven facts” facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC “you need to know” about Antifa.
These “facts” include informing the reader that “secret Antifa groups in Oregon … said they come from a variety of political backgrounds but they were united in their opposition to fascism”.
Meanwhile in Portland … something wicked this way comes.
“secret Antifa groups in Oregon … said they come from a variety of political backgrounds”
Very diverse: Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, Castroites, Pol Pot worshippers, Ceaușescu disciples, and dog-fuckers.
“Completely normal”.
It’s a step up from sandwich boards. But then it is the 21st Century.
It’s a step up from sandwich boards. But then it is the 21st Century.
So…Bradford Council is telling the public that they have more money than they need?
I am confident that you could put three quarters of the government “workers” on slow freighters to China and not only would essential government services not break down, everything would get much better.
“facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC “you need to know” about Antifa.”
So the BBC is reminding us–again–that they are indeed a Stalinist organization.
Completely normal
Given that this is Bradford, the twitter comment anyhow no good if it’s all in English is apposite. But, then, I guess the council is reaching out to a minority group.
“Here are seven facts” facts bear in mind, that according to the BBC “you need to know” about Antifa.
At some point you have to wonder, is it really credulity and incuriousness, or just a willingness to regurgitate demonstrable lies?
I think the Democrats are still aware that too many of the nation’s armed forces would not obey an order to move against American citizens
If they’re anything like the Victorian police, they will take to persecuting their own citizens with no hesitation at all. The Dems need not worry on that account.
Speaking of the mighty and fearless Antifa.
Behold their mightiness.
You see, harassing booksellers and their customers, and demanding that books of investigative journalism be expunged from public consciousness, is, we’re assured, fighting “active fascism.”
This is what happens when you don’t discipline misbehaving children.
demanding that books of investigative journalism be expunged from public consciousness, is, we’re assured, fighting “active fascism.”
lefties project.
At some point you have to wonder, is it really credulity and incuriousness, or just a willingness to regurgitate demonstrable lies?
One of the more preposterous claims made by Antifa, one unquestioningly repeated by that BBC article (save for the one almost imperceptible caveat “Antifa members we spoke to“), is this:
They said if violence does occur, it’s as a form of self-defence.
To have the temerity to even consider making this claim, let alone actually making it with all the evidence to the contrary, is a brazen act of shameless lying.
The alleged justification is little better, possibly still worse:
They also make historical arguments to justify their position. For instance, they ask, what if opponents of the German Nazi Party had been more forceful in their opposition in the 1930s, could World War Two and the Holocaust have been averted?
What this absurd “argument” completely ignores, of course, is that the Germany of the 1920s and 1930s in which Hitler rose to power was one which for a long time was riven with sectarian violence between Revolutionary Communists and the Nazis.
More importantly, it was the very real and altogether quite rational fears of Bolshevism that actually helped Hitler’s rise to power since for many, in the early years at least, the NSDAP would have appeared to be the lesser of two evils.
The intransigence of the Revolutionary Communists and the original Antifa can therefore be seen as actually having hastened Hitler’s rise to power, not preventing it.
It is also worth noting, as Michael Burleigh does in his The Third Reich: A New History the many examples of Bolshevik street fighters switching allegiance and swelling the ranks of the Sturmabteilung so close were they to each other in terms of mentality and political views.
Speaking of the mighty and fearless Antifa.
Meth has a lot to answer for.
“Willingness” to regurgitate demonstrable lies.
How about positively gagging to do it?
Meth has a lot to answer for.
Marx has a lot to answer for…and American school teachers.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/could-trump-go-bankrupt-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9137075/Deutsche-Bank-sever-ties-Donald-Trump-Trump-organization-owes-340-million-loans.html
A couple of articles which seem unconcerned that banks are anxious to cut their links with Trump.
The gloating tone in the Speccie article seems strange- is that paper not despised by the Left? Do they not see that banks and other institutions that are willing to promote and pander to the Woke-lings will be emboldened when they destroy Trump and will move on to new targets?
Likewise with the Mail?
This is Deutsche Bank we are talking about- a bank which I suspect applies its moral scruples selectively.
Also from the Mail article- re Signature Bank@#
‘We have never before commented on any political matter and hope to never do so again,’ Signature said in its statement. The bank will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard the electoral college, the spokesperson said.
If the Mail and the Speccie cannot see beyond kicking Trump at this point we truly are fcuked.
On Twitter, an American chap has just lost his father to Covid: deep sympathy…until he tweets: “My beautiful 87 year old Mom just became one of the 360,000 victims of Donald Trump….”
And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for – wait for it – genocide. Unbelievable.
And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for – wait for it – genocide.
We live in dementing times.
“The bank will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard the electoral college”
You fucking WHAT?
No dogs, no blacks, no Irish, no Republicans is it now?
On a different totalitarian note – Signal or Telegram?
We live in dementing times.
A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.’
voted to disregard the electoral college
Deliberate misrepresentation of the vote or pure, wallowing ignorance? Both?
I can’t help but see all the efforts of the nominal right to separate the voters from Trump as being akin to a mob family kidnapping a woman back from the man she married to get out of the family business. Desperate, determined, in their mind certain to succeed, because “well, she just had her head wrong, distracted by that guy”. Utterly farcical, but grimly serious at the same time. And much like the mob family, it’s not her cousin, the made man who despises her, but her brothers – who see her as *belonging* to the mob and a personal rebuke in leaving. In extension, their property.
Their delusion that burning the marital home and driving the husband into flight will solve the issue of their sister *not wanting to be surrounded by crime anymore*, nor indeed have anything to do with them… it’s a powerful delusion.
Wait – what? The Electoral College is good now? I thought we were doing away with the Electoral College because Hillary! won the popular vote. Didn’t we just have a 4-year temper tantrum on how evil the Electoral College is?
I’ll just leave this here.
Elections are held – but your vote is not counted. Who will organize the next election? Who will count the votes?
BTW, as I related here a couple of times now, according to our elections office web site, my and wife’s votes have not been counted. I was in contact with my state senator (GOP and supposedly pro-Trump)regarding this. He claimed to see the exact opposite of what I see. I send him screen shots, he sends me just his word. Late last year he said that perhaps Icould come to his office and verify. I was good with that but then his wife was having heart surgery at the end of the year and this would have to wait until the beginning of the year. Heard nothing from him. Sent him a follow up note on the 7th asking how his wife was doing and if perhaps there’s someone elseI could work with on this. It is now the 12th and he’s gone dark on me.
Out: “Taking children away from often unrelated, criminal and even rapine adults using them as magic talismans to cross the border is wrong”
In: “Taking away the children of tens of millions of people because their parents voted wrong is so hot”
I’ll just leave this here.
From the comments at the link: Says Trump’s close to hitler right after stating he wants to put Republicans in “re-education ” camps
One question modern people have is how could the German people could have agreed to put their fellow citizens in concentration camps. How could that have happened? This is how it happened. First you convince the people that a certain group of people who believe differently are horrible, evil Others, and to blame for all the problems in your country and your life. You don’t start out calling for their extermination, but you sure as heck end up doing exactly that. Then, in Germany, it was Jewish people. Now, in the US, it is Trump supporters. And it won’t stop with Trump supporters. Nor will it stop with Republicans in general.
Now, in the US, it is Trump supporters. And it won’t stop with Trump supporters. Nor will it stop with Republicans in general.
The rhetoric from the left regarding “evil” Republicans has grown increasingly hyperbolic beginning with Bush Sr. and culminating in Trump. Where can they can possibly go from here? Once you’ve played the double-extra-bad-Hitler card there’s nothing left to, ahem, carry the right tone. The “othering” has reached a point where a lefty can open re-education camps, punch a Nazi, etc. all in good conscience. They think they’d be like Oskar Schindler when it’s far more likely they’d be like John Demjanjuk.
One question modern people have is how could the German people could have agreed to put their fellow citizens in concentration camps. How could that have happened?
Dennis Prager on The Good German
How many of those who believe this will later use genuine credentials in other fields to promote something they know is false, but which will hurt those nasty conservatives, as revenge for the “victims”?
How many of those who say there are 360,000 victims know better, but say it anyway, as revenge for something else those nasty conservatives did in the past?
How many of those past deeds were also benign, but spun as nasty to avenge deeds further past?
How many haven’t even noticed this is happening?
They’ll keep the frog at a slow boil.
Everything will rumble and stumble along on its current trajectory until a military defeat (in the inevitable proxy war we fight for China/Corporate interests) and/or stock market crash. Of course, an different Black Swan event could occur, but normies wants to claw back a sense of, well, normalcy after the past year and have been all but promised as much since the health-facism has been instituted. So I predict people burying their heads real, real deep up until the moment shrapnel flies.
“Impotence and flaccidity” Birth control for the left. Excellent!
“…then the prospect of losing that object of hate, and status, must be a cause of… mixed feelings.”
Whenever I see a reference to this idea, I always think back to this scene from the end of the TV movie Conspiracy, with Kenneth Branagh as Reinhard Heydrich and Stanley Tucci as Adolf Eichmann. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZMuOhuB3Wo
Just like the dog that tries to catch the car, what will they do if they ever succeed?
And some of the responses suggest that people should bring a class action against the President for – wait for it – genocide.
What about the leaders of Belgium, Italy, France, UK, Spain ? – all with “COVID deaths per million” numbers higher or comparable to the U.S.
APL – hopefully during the next calendar year those still stubbornly fixated on the notion that the Left has any standards for their own behavior and reasoning will finally shed that dangerous canard and understand that sudden, kinetic force is the only thing that will stop their insanity. No particular set of words, no presentation of evidence, no highlighting of hypocrisy – nothing – will satiate their lust for money, power and peer-prestige.
I’m sort of cramping the raison d’être of Chateau Thompson but honestly, we must find how to reject their premises outright and stop shadow boxing an enemy who’s not even in the room, much less willing to fight in the same ring.
Impotence and flaccidity
Isn’t that an OMD album?
Isn’t that an OMD album?
Heh.
Never heard of OMD. For a moment I thought you’d written OMB (Office of Management and Budget.)
Never heard of OMD.
Somewhat earnest electropop from the Eighties. Big with students, I believe. Hence titles such as Architecture and Morality. Or indeed Impotence and Flaccidity.
I am skeptical about the importance of being earnest, David.
Never heard of OMD.
If you saw “Pretty in Pink”, you know OMD. They were Flock of Seagulls without the hair.
[ Rummages for playlist of ancient electropop. ]
[ Rummages for playlist of ancient electropop. ]
[ Examines musty corner of basement. Oh look what I found. ]
The Human League. Gary Numan. Limahl. Modern English. Re-Flex. The Fixx. ABC. Blue Peter. Bronski Beat. Buggles. China Crisis. Depeche Mode. Duran Duran. Fun Boy Three. Haysi Fantayzee. Naked Eyes. New Musik. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark. Spandau Ballet. Wang Chung. a-ha. Adam Ant. Berlin. The Cars.
I’m so ashamed.
honestly, we must find how to reject their premises outright and stop shadow boxing an enemy who’s not even in the room, much less willing to fight in the same ring.
This.
[ Rummaging intensifies. ]