It has to be said, the optics are rather… curious. They’re building a woke utopia in which admission to a wide-open public space is policed, largely by middle-class white students, on grounds of race. You see, they only want black people in the fields.
sH2
June 23, 2020 8:56 am
‘Full black’ LOL
Horace Dunn
June 23, 2020 9:16 am
You see, they only want black people in the fields.
*Sprays early morning tea over keyboard. Recovers. Dabs eyes.*
The scary thing is, it looks increasingly like that is what they want.
*Sprays early morning tea over keyboard. Recovers. Dabs eyes.*
Oh, come on. It was right there, waiting to be said.
I’m also impressed by the fact that you can “experience oppression because you are black” without actually, you know, being black. Or, one assumes, oppressed. All things are possible in Woketopia.
And remember, these are people who’ve been educated, possibly at great expense.
Horace Dunn
June 23, 2020 9:54 am
Incidentally, there was an “essay” on BBC Radio 4 this morning (for non-UK readers, R4 is the flagship broadcaster for establishment wokeism) on which Niall Ferguson spoke about using the opportunities of a post-Covid world to address the problems of state bureaucracies that “so badly failed to deal with this crisis”, and “those universities that were more interested in propagating woke ideology than teaching all that can profitably learned from the human past” and “those media institutions that insisted on covering [the pandemic] as if it were all a function the foibles of a few presidents, prime ministers and advisers”. He adds that killing off those insitutions that are stagnating, might mean we can see a return to progress.
This said, on Radio 4? Surely I dreamed it?
Nope, I checked. Radio 4 really did permit those sentiments to be expressed. No doubt they will “balance it out” with 500 shouty marxists, but it seems nonethleless like a tiny green shoot of progress…
No doubt they will “balance it out” with 500 shouty Marxists,
Not unlike the insufferable Thinking Allowed programme, which affects an air of intellectual sophistication and great moral depth while begging endless questions and airing assumptions favoured by unironic Guardian readers. Consequently, the most extraordinary pseudo-intellectual horseshit is treated with great deference, and we’re expected to applaud “debates” in which two shameless race hustlers agree with each other about how “white culture is a racist culture,” things of that sort, while a third person dutifully defers.
And instead of widening the listener’s horizons, as it claims, the programme more typically feels claustrophobic and parochial. A tiny group of people with eerily similar views congratulating each other, and thereby themselves.
the insufferable Thinking Allowed programme
My personal bugbear was “The Moral Maze”, or more accurately, “The Moral Cul-de-sac”. Supposedly an interrogation of biting moral questions of the day; in all my listening experience not a single one of the preening windbag panellists ever adjusted their moral posturing one iota as a result of the expert witnesses. Michael Gove was a frequent panellist. Which probably tells you everything you need to know.
Anyway, I finally gave up on Radio 4 completely about a year ago. I’d continued being a regular listener to the Archers, but then one of their episodes was entirely given over to an instructional on the intimacies of menstruation. And that was me out for good.
I finally gave up on Radio 4 completely about a year ago.
I gave up on it about a decade ago. As I’m sure I’ve mentioned before, one of the last things I heard was an episode of Loose Ends – a sort of whimsical revue of chat, music and substandard comedy, invariably leftist. The generic leftwing comedian of the week (whose name I didn’t catch) was amused by the taboos surrounding immigration and multiculturalism. Lots of code words were used – “Sun-reader,” and so forth – so that the disdain for working-class people and their fears wouldn’t be too overt.
The gist of the comedian’s punch line was, “Isn’t it hilarious that people who have concerns about mass immigration and failures to assimilate – the rapid and alienating transformation of their neighbourhoods – now have to be quiet because otherwise they’ll be called racists and possibly lose their jobs. Ha! We won!” This triumphal non-joke – and it was blatantly triumphal – was deemed incredibly funny and much mannered clapping ensued.
Of course, this was aired before the uncovering of events in Rotherham, and our new and vibrant age of Congolese machete gangs.
I left a comment on the previous thread about what seemed to me a particularly outrageous lie for the “greater good” by Dr Fauci concerning the efficacy of face masks.
It seems the plot thickens because this “expert” then went on to complain about how people are mysteriously failing to religiously believe The Science™.
What an utter twat!
Adam
June 23, 2020 2:11 pm
This is an obvious observation but I just need to say it: When white people enforce a border keeping blacks in an area for blacks only how is CHAZ different from a South African “homeland”?
Also, define “healing”. How is it measured? What specific outcome determines when healing is achieved?
Sorry, but my fragility is acting up this morning.
The Greater Good
Wow – I accidentally opened one of the links from my own earlier comment in an unmodified browser.
Hasn’t the internet become an unusable flickering gibbering horror show without an army of ad, popup and script blockers defending us?
Also, define “healing”. How is it measured?
Pretty sure the finish line will be when the trauma of being black is reduced to the point where a young black woman allows her baby to come to term, insists that the father stick around to help raise the child, insists that the local school provide a quality education and that the child studies diligently.
I believe the first step is finding a term to replace “acting white” when describing somebody behaving responsibly.
Hasn’t the internet become an unusable flickering gibbering horror show without an army of ad, popup and script blockers defending us?
I recently, foolishly, and for reasons that now escape me, bathed in the stroboscopic glow of the un-adblocked Daily Mail. It’s like they just took a bag full of flashing random crap, shook it up, then threw it at the screen. I’m not at all convinced that advertising is a viable model for internet use. It feels much more intrusive and aggravating than print or TV ads. Partly, I suppose, because it’s happening on your device. Maybe it’s just me, but I find myself repelled by it, and sites that use it, quite emphatically. I’ve stopped counting the sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker, resulting in an insulting, actively hostile, all but unusable experience.
Squires
June 23, 2020 3:39 pm
…these are people who’ve been educated, possibly at great expense.
Nurturing a mark’s feeling of investment is important to the maintenance of a toxic relationship.
sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker
I still have a hotmail account (I know, pity me) and here is the message it displays. On its own. In a wide sidebar. A sidebar that takes up space that could be dedicated to the inbox: It looks like you’re using an ad blocker. To maximise the space in your inbox sign up for Ad-Free Outlook.
Sometimes I think Microsoft is just trolling.
sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker
I play a game with those sites, called “hit refresh, ctrl-A, ctrl-C and paste into Word.”
I’m at 100% so far.
unironic Guardian readers
What reminded me that I hadn’t dropped in here today was running across a Guardian article just now (no, I’m not gonna link it. F ’em) stating that millions of Americans can’t afford water. See because it went up (supposedly) 80%…over a decade. I thought surely someone hear already read it, picked out the biggest chunks of stupid, and thus saving me the trouble. I know, credit note only.
a different james
June 23, 2020 6:55 pm
Police launch investigation into Burnley football fan who chartered a plane and flew White Lives Matter banner above Etihad stadium over racially-aggravated public order offence
Headline from the Daily Wail.
Are we there yet?
pst314
June 23, 2020 7:01 pm
“…running across a Guardian article just now…picked out the biggest chunks of stupid”
It’s annoying how many of the Brits I meet here in America seem to have foolish opinions of what Americans are like. It’s as if their intelligence has been lowered by an advanced degree and a constant exposure to the Guardian and BBC. Can the Daily Mail’s stroboscopic web page cause just as severe brain damage?
Steve E
June 23, 2020 7:52 pm
‘Full black’ LOL
So Obama wouldn’t be allowed in? It has to be said, the optics are rather… curious.
Wait until the barbed wire goes up. What an utter twat!
Such a high level of disingenuosness is usually only found in politicians. The wokerati are too stupid to be disingenuous. Because being woke requires double standards.
If it weren’t for double standards they’d have no standards at all.
pst314
June 23, 2020 8:02 pm
‘Full black’ LOL
“You must be this tall black to ride the roller coaster SJW clown car.”
It’s annoying how many of the Brits I meet here in America seem to have foolish opinions of what Americans are like.
I’ve become friendly with an old Air Force gentleman and his York-born wife. Lovely lady, just turned 90. Adores my dog. Feisty, determined, nothing stops her. A mind still very sharp as well. Until recently she swam 500 yards or more every morning. She says she’s determined to get back in the water. Right now she’s stuck using (or supposed to be using) a walker, yet I see from pictures her husband (who is a bit more limited because he’s on an oxygen tank) posted that she was out in her front yard cleaning up leaves and branches from a rough storm the night before. Before we left for the summer we stopped by their house and we got into a bit of a discussion about the war/post-war years in the UK and who she stays in touch with over the pond. Her friends and family over there know that she’s a steady Trump supporter. She told us this has caused a bit of friction in the long distance relationships. Her best friend from her youth, whom she has known all her life called her up a while back because her friend was seriously concerned that she might drink bleach because “Trump said to”. I delicately asked if this friend, who must be about the same age, was possibly losing her faculties or such. She assured me not. I could tell she was a bit upset that her friend thought that of her. Then she let on that her family relationships have gotten a bit strained Over the last couple of years , she thinks for similar reasons.
At least she’s honest
Again, being woke requires double standards.
Steve E
June 23, 2020 9:34 pm
At least she’s honest:
This is what you get when your ideology is a zero-sum game. For a group of people who believe so strongly in a gender spectrum, it’s striking how binary their thought process works. Oppressed-oppressor, winner-loser, power-powerless, hammer-nail.
Then they came for the Bronies: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/
Because nothing can be free from censorship. I particularly liked how the author seems to find it problematic that Derpibooru forbid complaining about content and instead instruct visitors to use the site’s filtering tools to avoid images they don’t want to see.
as though taking responsibility for your own viewing is beyond her.
Jay Guevara
June 24, 2020 1:10 am
You see, they only want black people in the fields.
CHAZ is growing cotton?
I’ve become friendly with an old Air Force gentleman and his York-born wife.
A better class of people that the arrogant university [censored] jerks I’ve met.
pst314
June 24, 2020 2:10 am
CHAZ is growing cotton?
What better fate for Marxist revolutionaries than to be consigned to farm labor. We could even write work songs for them. Everyone in CHAZ gets a tenner. The organizers get a quarter.
pst314
June 24, 2020 2:32 am
work songs: “When you’re a zek,
You’re a zek all the way
From the knock on the door
To your last dyin’ day…”
and: “They come runnin’ just as fast as they can
‘Cause commies all crazy ’bout a five year plan”
So, no police action against the BurnleyFlyer (it took them three days to figure out they couldn’t pin anything on him) and 15 FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
What’s today’s totally manufactured outrage going to be, I wonder?
and 15 FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
It’s strange to watch what appears to be a widespread, seemingly contagious unhinging; some kind of collective fever dream.
Squires
June 24, 2020 7:58 am
…FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
And what pointy heads at NASCAR are going to believe, or pretend to believe, that a professional driver had never seen an overhand loop or bowline dangling from a bay door before?
*squints*
I can’t see any black people.
I can’t see any black people.
It’s not unlike watching This is Spinal Tap.
It has to be said, the optics are rather… curious. They’re building a woke utopia in which admission to a wide-open public space is policed, largely by middle-class white students, on grounds of race. You see, they only want black people in the fields.
‘Full black’ LOL
You see, they only want black people in the fields.
*Sprays early morning tea over keyboard. Recovers. Dabs eyes.*
The scary thing is, it looks increasingly like that is what they want.
*Sprays early morning tea over keyboard. Recovers. Dabs eyes.*
Oh, come on. It was right there, waiting to be said.
I’m also impressed by the fact that you can “experience oppression because you are black” without actually, you know, being black. Or, one assumes, oppressed. All things are possible in Woketopia.
And remember, these are people who’ve been educated, possibly at great expense.
Incidentally, there was an “essay” on BBC Radio 4 this morning (for non-UK readers, R4 is the flagship broadcaster for establishment wokeism) on which Niall Ferguson spoke about using the opportunities of a post-Covid world to address the problems of state bureaucracies that “so badly failed to deal with this crisis”, and “those universities that were more interested in propagating woke ideology than teaching all that can profitably learned from the human past” and “those media institutions that insisted on covering [the pandemic] as if it were all a function the foibles of a few presidents, prime ministers and advisers”. He adds that killing off those insitutions that are stagnating, might mean we can see a return to progress.
This said, on Radio 4? Surely I dreamed it?
Nope, I checked. Radio 4 really did permit those sentiments to be expressed. No doubt they will “balance it out” with 500 shouty marxists, but it seems nonethleless like a tiny green shoot of progress…
No doubt they will “balance it out” with 500 shouty Marxists,
That does seem to be their standard procedure.
No doubt they will “balance it out” with 500 shouty Marxists,
Not unlike the insufferable Thinking Allowed programme, which affects an air of intellectual sophistication and great moral depth while begging endless questions and airing assumptions favoured by unironic Guardian readers. Consequently, the most extraordinary pseudo-intellectual horseshit is treated with great deference, and we’re expected to applaud “debates” in which two shameless race hustlers agree with each other about how “white culture is a racist culture,” things of that sort, while a third person dutifully defers.
And instead of widening the listener’s horizons, as it claims, the programme more typically feels claustrophobic and parochial. A tiny group of people with eerily similar views congratulating each other, and thereby themselves.
the insufferable Thinking Allowed programme
My personal bugbear was “The Moral Maze”, or more accurately, “The Moral Cul-de-sac”. Supposedly an interrogation of biting moral questions of the day; in all my listening experience not a single one of the preening windbag panellists ever adjusted their moral posturing one iota as a result of the expert witnesses. Michael Gove was a frequent panellist. Which probably tells you everything you need to know.
Anyway, I finally gave up on Radio 4 completely about a year ago. I’d continued being a regular listener to the Archers, but then one of their episodes was entirely given over to an instructional on the intimacies of menstruation. And that was me out for good.
unironic Guardian readers
Band name.
I finally gave up on Radio 4 completely about a year ago.
I gave up on it about a decade ago. As I’m sure I’ve mentioned before, one of the last things I heard was an episode of Loose Ends – a sort of whimsical revue of chat, music and substandard comedy, invariably leftist. The generic leftwing comedian of the week (whose name I didn’t catch) was amused by the taboos surrounding immigration and multiculturalism. Lots of code words were used – “Sun-reader,” and so forth – so that the disdain for working-class people and their fears wouldn’t be too overt.
The gist of the comedian’s punch line was, “Isn’t it hilarious that people who have concerns about mass immigration and failures to assimilate – the rapid and alienating transformation of their neighbourhoods – now have to be quiet because otherwise they’ll be called racists and possibly lose their jobs. Ha! We won!” This triumphal non-joke – and it was blatantly triumphal – was deemed incredibly funny and much mannered clapping ensued.
Of course, this was aired before the uncovering of events in Rotherham, and our new and vibrant age of Congolese machete gangs.
I left a comment on the previous thread about what seemed to me a particularly outrageous lie for the “greater good” by Dr Fauci concerning the efficacy of face masks.
It seems the plot thickens because this “expert” then went on to complain about how people are mysteriously failing to religiously believe The Science™.
What an utter twat!
This is an obvious observation but I just need to say it: When white people enforce a border keeping blacks in an area for blacks only how is CHAZ different from a South African “homeland”?
Also, define “healing”. How is it measured? What specific outcome determines when healing is achieved?
Sorry, but my fragility is acting up this morning.
Also, define “healing”. How is it measured?
Presumably, they’re recovering from all that terrible racial contamination.
The Greater Good
Wow – I accidentally opened one of the links from my own earlier comment in an unmodified browser.
Hasn’t the internet become an unusable flickering gibbering horror show without an army of ad, popup and script blockers defending us?
Also, define “healing”. How is it measured?
Pretty sure the finish line will be when the trauma of being black is reduced to the point where a young black woman allows her baby to come to term, insists that the father stick around to help raise the child, insists that the local school provide a quality education and that the child studies diligently.
I believe the first step is finding a term to replace “acting white” when describing somebody behaving responsibly.
Hasn’t the internet become an unusable flickering gibbering horror show without an army of ad, popup and script blockers defending us?
I recently, foolishly, and for reasons that now escape me, bathed in the stroboscopic glow of the un-adblocked Daily Mail. It’s like they just took a bag full of flashing random crap, shook it up, then threw it at the screen. I’m not at all convinced that advertising is a viable model for internet use. It feels much more intrusive and aggravating than print or TV ads. Partly, I suppose, because it’s happening on your device. Maybe it’s just me, but I find myself repelled by it, and sites that use it, quite emphatically. I’ve stopped counting the sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker, resulting in an insulting, actively hostile, all but unusable experience.
…these are people who’ve been educated, possibly at great expense.
Nurturing a mark’s feeling of investment is important to the maintenance of a toxic relationship.
Have we reached peak iconoclasm yet?

Have we reached peak iconoclasm yet?
Spite as piety.
sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker
I still have a hotmail account (I know, pity me) and here is the message it displays. On its own. In a wide sidebar. A sidebar that takes up space that could be dedicated to the inbox:
It looks like you’re using an ad blocker. To maximise the space in your inbox sign up for Ad-Free Outlook.
Sometimes I think Microsoft is just trolling.
I still have a hotmail account
As I said to my niece when I saw her Hotmail address, “You’ve brought shame upon this family.”
“You’ve brought shame upon this family.”
[ Shuffles over to the Scoldomatic ]
Because being woke requires double standards.
sites I’ll no longer visit because they insist on the reader deactivating their adblocker
I play a game with those sites, called “hit refresh, ctrl-A, ctrl-C and paste into Word.”
I’m at 100% so far.
unironic Guardian readers
What reminded me that I hadn’t dropped in here today was running across a Guardian article just now (no, I’m not gonna link it. F ’em) stating that millions of Americans can’t afford water. See because it went up (supposedly) 80%…over a decade. I thought surely someone hear already read it, picked out the biggest chunks of stupid, and thus saving me the trouble. I know, credit note only.
Police launch investigation into Burnley football fan who chartered a plane and flew White Lives Matter banner above Etihad stadium over racially-aggravated public order offence
Headline from the Daily Wail.
Are we there yet?
“…running across a Guardian article just now…picked out the biggest chunks of stupid”
It’s annoying how many of the Brits I meet here in America seem to have foolish opinions of what Americans are like. It’s as if their intelligence has been lowered by an advanced degree and a constant exposure to the Guardian and BBC. Can the Daily Mail’s stroboscopic web page cause just as severe brain damage?
‘Full black’ LOL
So Obama wouldn’t be allowed in?
It has to be said, the optics are rather… curious.
Wait until the barbed wire goes up.
What an utter twat!
Such a high level of disingenuosness is usually only found in politicians. The wokerati are too stupid to be disingenuous.
Because being woke requires double standards.
If it weren’t for double standards they’d have no standards at all.
‘Full black’ LOL
“You must be this
tallblack to ride theroller coasterSJW clown car.”At least she’s honest:
https://twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1275321545498468353
It’s annoying how many of the Brits I meet here in America seem to have foolish opinions of what Americans are like.
I’ve become friendly with an old Air Force gentleman and his York-born wife. Lovely lady, just turned 90. Adores my dog. Feisty, determined, nothing stops her. A mind still very sharp as well. Until recently she swam 500 yards or more every morning. She says she’s determined to get back in the water. Right now she’s stuck using (or supposed to be using) a walker, yet I see from pictures her husband (who is a bit more limited because he’s on an oxygen tank) posted that she was out in her front yard cleaning up leaves and branches from a rough storm the night before. Before we left for the summer we stopped by their house and we got into a bit of a discussion about the war/post-war years in the UK and who she stays in touch with over the pond. Her friends and family over there know that she’s a steady Trump supporter. She told us this has caused a bit of friction in the long distance relationships. Her best friend from her youth, whom she has known all her life called her up a while back because her friend was seriously concerned that she might drink bleach because “Trump said to”. I delicately asked if this friend, who must be about the same age, was possibly losing her faculties or such. She assured me not. I could tell she was a bit upset that her friend thought that of her. Then she let on that her family relationships have gotten a bit strained Over the last couple of years , she thinks for similar reasons.
At least she’s honest
Again, being woke requires double standards.
At least she’s honest:
This is what you get when your ideology is a zero-sum game. For a group of people who believe so strongly in a gender spectrum, it’s striking how binary their thought process works. Oppressed-oppressor, winner-loser, power-powerless, hammer-nail.
it’s striking how binary their thought process works.
And as noted recently, with quite a lot of projection.
Hotmail?
I’ve still got aol!
Hotmail?
I’ve still got aol!
Well, David is fond of the use of coasters.
Then they came for the Bronies:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/
Because nothing can be free from censorship. I particularly liked how the author seems to find it problematic that Derpibooru
forbid complaining about content and instead instruct visitors to use the site’s filtering tools to avoid images they don’t want to see.
as though taking responsibility for your own viewing is beyond her.
You see, they only want black people in the fields.
CHAZ is growing cotton?
CHAZ is growing cotton?
Dental Floss.
I’ve become friendly with an old Air Force gentleman and his York-born wife.
A better class of people that the arrogant university
[censored]jerks I’ve met.CHAZ is growing cotton?
What better fate for Marxist revolutionaries than to be consigned to farm labor. We could even write work songs for them. Everyone in CHAZ gets a tenner. The organizers get a quarter.
work songs:
“When you’re a zek,
You’re a zek all the way
From the knock on the door
To your last dyin’ day…”
and:
“They come runnin’ just as fast as they can
‘Cause commies all crazy ’bout a five year plan”
The Woketopians are not the only ones captivated by race.
Via Damian.
Twitter.
And in woke vandalism news.
So, no police action against the BurnleyFlyer (it took them three days to figure out they couldn’t pin anything on him) and 15 FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
What’s today’s totally manufactured outrage going to be, I wonder?
and 15 FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
It’s strange to watch what appears to be a widespread, seemingly contagious unhinging; some kind of collective fever dream.
…FBI agents worked tirelessly to identify a pullrope from a garage door.
And what pointy heads at NASCAR are going to believe, or pretend to believe, that a professional driver had never seen an overhand loop or bowline dangling from a bay door before?