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Further to the last item here, Andy Ngo on attempts to discuss ideas versus recreational outrage:
“James [Damore] argues, accurately, that there are differences between men and women,” evolutionary biologist Heather Heying said during the panel discussion. “This is a strange position to be in, to be arguing for something that is so universally accepted in biology… You can be irritated by a lot of truths, but taking offence,” — here, Heying paused as hecklers shouted and began to walk out — “is a response that is a rejection of reality.” A non-student protester then yanked the cables from the sound system and shoved the equipment to the ground, breaking an antenna. She was promptly detained by police. “[Damore’s] a piece of shit!” she screamed as she was issued a citation for criminal mischief in the second degree. “Even the women in there have been brainwashed!” Another protester stated: “Nazis are not welcome in civil society.”
Today’s word is projection. Video here.
Nikita Vladimirov on more “social justice” psychodrama:
Activists at the University of Vermont have intensified their protests against the school this week, blocking rush hour traffic on Thursday while demanding social justice related reforms… The protesters remained in place [blocking a busy intersection] for about three hours… causing traffic congestion that eventually began to impact neighbouring towns, and even caused problems for the UVM Medical Centre, creating 15-minute delays for ambulances that were headed to the hospital.
Arrest them, and expel them, and maybe this will stop. Anything less will be regarded as encouragement.
And Dave Huber offers a reminder that opportunist outrage isn’t confined to students:
[University of Delaware law professor,] Sheldon Pollack thought that the academic hoax The Conceptual Penis As A Social Construct was pretty damn funny, and decided to send it along to a male colleague and his son. However, that dread auto-fill feature placed the address of a female colleague on the message. That colleague asked what he meant by the message, indicating it was “inappropriate.” Pollack fully explained what had happened and apologised for the error. Half a year later, the erroneous recipient initiated a formal complaint about the matter… Pollack says the university’s human resources department also recommended that he attend sexual harassment counselling as a result of the incident.
As usual, feel free to share your own links and snippets, on any subject, in the comments.
Also from the Andy Ngo article:
You’re shocked, I know.
Half a year later, the erroneous recipient initiated a formal complaint about the matter
Grudge.
Grudge.
There is, I think, a whiff of bad faith.
Heh.
“Grammar is a hideous function of white supremacy”
https://twitter.com/TheSafestSpace/status/967383549740552192
From SH2’s link above, an English teacher who thinks standards are terribly oppressive. Because she’s a great thinker, y’see, and she wants the world to know it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/hannendez/status/967532505560682498
Racism detected, outrage ensues.
Miss Zinnia Jones weighs in with another Deep Thought™ to enlighten us rubes.
There are a couple of puns in there, but I’m not going to touch them…
From the Ngo article:
Helen Pluckrose recalled what one of the police officers had told her: “So why are you so radical and extreme and dangerous that I have to escort you off campus? You seemed very reasonable to me.” She still doesn’t have an answer. (Emphasis supplied.)
So, expressing what until a decade or so ago was (and continues to be among the majority of us) obvious truths is now “radical,” “dangerous” and “extreme.” It would be amusing were the contagion not working its way through the populace like a zombie virus.
Speaking of the perpetually aggrieved, someone has a bit of trouble with concepts.
“So why are you so radical and extreme and dangerous that I have to escort you off campus? You seemed very reasonable to me.”
It reminds me of one of my early defining experiences as a blogger. During a conversation with a left-leaning commenter who’s spent far too much of his adult life on campuses, I was told that the long, fairly civil discussion we were having, on statistical gender differences in aptitude and interest, would be difficult to have on a modern campus, practically taboo.
I can’t say things have improved in the ten years since.
Farnsworth says he’s not going to touch them. Heeheehee.
I was told that the long, fairly civil discussion we were having, on statistical gender differences in aptitude and interest, would be difficult to have on a modern campus, practically taboo.
That’s the first thread I ever read here.
*feels old*
*feels old*
No refunds. Credit note only.
It reminds me of one of my early defining experiences as a blogger.
In rereading that thread, what’s striking is Dawg’s seemingly deliberate misstatement of the issue. That is, the observation that there is a statistically demonstrable spectrum of interests and abilities among individuals within certain demographics is the equivalent of saying all individuals within a given demographic are exactly alike. Obviously, no one made that assertion, yet Dawg persistently argued against it.
Ten years ago, I would have dismissed his/her effort as intellectual laziness or deficiency. Now, it’s becoming clear that such behavior is the result of malevolent intent.
I should also mention, Dawg steadfastly refused to define what precisely made Larry Summer’s statements so controversial and/or offensive, not to mention factually incorrect. S/he was arguing with a caricature of his/her own creation.
In rereading that thread, what’s striking is…
What’s striking to me is how odd it is to re-read your own comments from 10 bloody year ago. As I poked about, I kept thinking, “Bugger, I should have said this, or not said that, or said this other thing in a less cack-handed fashion.”
Still, training wheels.
Zinnia Jones brings us a first world problem; one JMS laments, “One more thing US healthcare insurers will never cover and 99% of us will never afford. Thanks though…”
I know you are asking what won’t be covered, cancer treatment, new antibiotics, anti-dementia medications ?
No, none of those.
Why, you ask, is this necessary ?
There is a blinding flash of the obvious, that whole DNA thing is pesky. At any rate, the procedure calls for putting 3D printed implants on the iliac crests, and is supposed to result in this bit of false advertising as just flaring the iliac crests will not change the shape of the pelvic outlet, or the angle of the ishia at the pubic symphysis, both of which are determinants of where the acetabula and hence the femurs are, which are actually what determine hip width.
Regardless, Zinnia, being sufficiently Woke™ wants always to be inclusive.
Yes, a common request by cisheteromen reported by plastic surgeons is, “make my ass bigger, please.”
There is a blinding flash of the obvious, that whole DNA thing is pesky.
Farnsworth, you hater.
Yes, a common request by cisheteromen reported by plastic surgeons is, “make my ass bigger, please.”
Well, it’s obvious you’re just jealous, because no one has gazed upon you and exclaimed, “‘Dat ass!”
“Even the women in there have been brainwashed!”
“such behavior is the result of malevolent intent”
Do cult members realize they’ve been inducted into a cult?
David said: “It reminds me of one of my early defining experiences as a blogger.”
That’s because you were “arguing” with Dr. Dawg, one of the most notorious sea-lions out there and a life-long commie.
The defining moment I had as a blogger was when I realized that gun-confiscation proponents aren’t interested in the truth. They are interested in confiscation and nothing else. They are inherently un-convincible, there is no argument or fact that can sway them in the slightest.
So often I see us running around trying to use facts and reason to talk to these apparent lunatics on the Left. They are not amenable to reason. They do not care what the facts are. They don’t even care if their policies and plans will work. What they are interested in is making us knuckle under. So really the only response you need these days is “Make me, bitchez.”
Some fool demands you address him as a woman, you say “No.” Somebody wants to ban AR-15s, you say “come and take them” and buy five more.
http://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.ca/2018/02/you-wanted-more-trump-you-got-it.html
It reminds me of one of my early defining experiences as a blogger.
Wow. You’re very patient, David. 🙂
You’re very patient, David. 🙂
When I am, which isn’t often, it doesn’t come naturally. You should hear me swearing at a faulty mouse, lumpy software or a tangle of coat hangers.
So often I see us running around trying to use facts and reason to talk to these apparent lunatics on the Left. They are not amenable to reason. They do not care what the facts are. They don’t even care if their policies and plans will work. What they are interested in is making us knuckle under.
Yes. But we must meet them half-way. It’s the only reasonable, grown-up thing to do. /sarc
“Primary school”…
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/25/backlash-drag-queens-primary-school/
Tangle of coat hangers. I quite understand
May your coat hangers never get tangled.
Though I really like Tangled. The horse and the frying pan.
“Primary school”…
I hate to sound staid and stuffy, but I’m not quite sure how anxieties and stereotypes will be “challenged” by confronting primary school kids, four-year-olds, with adult drag acts. As if a pantomime drag queen, a caricature of a woman, a self-styed slag, were a radical and positive portrayal of what a gay person might look like, a “queer role model.”
Tangle of coat hangers. I quite understand
And then there was the Great Earbud Cable Crisis of 2017.
But it’s too soon, too raw. I can’t talk about it.
Steve Sailer dissects an article in the New York Times on why crypto currencies are sexist.
tl;dr: all those nerds that women find unattractive and who bought Bitcoin when it was worthless are actually stealing money from women.
You should hear me swearing at a faulty mouse, lumpy software or a tangle of coat hangers.
In this particular hovel, faulty mice get executed by meeting a solid surface at a high rate of speed; lumpy software causes me to yell at the monitor – a completely pointless gesture that I hope and pray no one witnessed – and coat hanger tangles get tossed to the floor and told in no uncertain terms to straighten their own damned selves out. Harumph.
And then there was the Great Earbud Cable Crisis of 2017.
Okay, now I’m certain eBay is spying on me. What should appear in my email inbox just now, but a promotion for Klipsch audiophile in-ear headphones (earbuds) at 80% off (normally $349, now $69 – today only!).
[ draws blinds ]
Ha! A mere coat hanger tangle? Try tackling a batch of coat hangers on which your father used half a roll of duct tape so they wouldn’t tangle. I remain traumatized.
Our mice work (we have the little bastards on minimum wage and if they try to organize we’ll get a cat). As for the little computer devices, Son of Pogonip’s been using the same one for 15 years. I think the brand is Dell, try it, maybe you’ll have better luck.
Hi Spiny Norman, all those sites spy on you, but they’re not very accurate. Amazon is firmly convinced that I’m African-American ( I am not now nor have I ever been black) and some computer somewhere thinks that, at 58, I would be interested in, and able to fit into, Victoria’s Secret products—I get their catalog about once a month. Son of Pogonip is very pleased with this state of affairs, even though he couldn’t fit into any of their products either.
Miss Zinnia Jones weighs in with another Deep Thought™ to enlighten us rubes.
Shouldn’t that be “Miss” Zinnia Jones?
But we must meet them half-way.
So we should only beat them *half* to death?
Shouldn’t that be “Miss” Zinnia Jones?
Good point, it’s getting so you can’t tell the players without a scorecard.
Or a physical exam.
After Spiny Norman’s first sentence I envisioned something like this:
Was relieved but also a bit disappointed by the subsequent text.
You’ll have to imagine the sound effects yourself, since it’s just a GIF.
The next statue that must come down right now is [check tea leaves; consult magic 8-ball] William McKinley.
http://www.madriverunion.com/opposition-to-city-councils-mckinley-removal-decision-begins-to-emerge/
I wrote my 1st book review today (not necessarily the first one I’ll post). It’s “The Stepford Wives,” because it’s short and has a simple plot, because I’ve never seen anything written about it that deals with what jumps right out at me, and because the younger, under-50 set may not know there was ever a book behind those two movies.
Now I gotta go clean the bathroom.
“Arrest them, and expel them, and maybe this will stop.”
Run them over & it d—-d sure will.
Another protester stated: “Nazis are not welcome in civil society.”
Try putting your sound equipment behind glass one night, so the protesters will have to break it in order to shut you up.
They’ll never understand, but others will.
“Nazis are not welcome in civil society.”
Leftists in general are not welcome. Those who do welcome them are not part of civil society.
Aelfheld: Yup, that’ll do it. 😄
I just wrote a review of “The Useful Book,” by Sharon and David Bowers, but that was quick. “This is great! Run right out and buy it!” If you buy it thru David, remember (all together, now)—no refunds. Credit note only.
Arrest them, and expel them, and maybe this will stop.
Being stupid has to hurt.
Being stupid has to hurt.
It’s generally how we learn. And we can’t have that. It’s also telling that when “social justice” Mao-lings issue their lists of preposterous, self-flattering demands, immunity from the normal consequences of their own behaviour is usually up near the top.
And let’s not forget Charles Davis, a professor of education at the University of Southern California, and a full-time fantasist, who insists that any hint of consequences for acts of thuggery on campus is “racist” and “unfair,” as it creates “an unsafe and threatening environment” for students who like to indulge in coercive and threatening behaviour. Expecting civility and reciprocal standards is now, we’re told, “white supremacy.” And “whiteness,” says Professor Davis, must be “destroyed.”
Again, this isn’t politics. It’s sociopathy.
Being stupid has to hurt.
“A University of California, San Diego student, Maria Ana Carrola Flores, is suing the school for failing to stop her from protesting President Donald Trump, a decision she says led to her being hit by a car on California’s I-5 freeway”.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25484/injured-uc-san-diego-student-sues-school-failing-emily-zanotti
“A University of California, San Diego student, Maria Ana Carrola Flores, is suing the school for failing to stop her from protesting President Donald Trump, a decision she says led to her being hit by a car on California’s I-5 freeway”.
Ah yes, everyone is responsible for her actions, except her. I see UC San Diego is churning out a generation of moral titans.
As I said at the time,
And if Ms Flores thinks it was terribly unfair of the driver in question to try to get away from the mob of which she chose to be part, maybe she should consider what can happen to people who don’t.
You should hear me swearing at a faulty mouse, lumpy software or a tangle of coat hangers.
Within the grounds of Oik Towers there is a pond, small in diameter but great in depth.
At the bottom of the pond lies a particularly uncooperative DVD player, complete with connecting cables, with which I lost patience late one Friday night having earlier spent several convivial hours on licensed premises.
Of course they have: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/27/labour-hires-transgender-model-said-white-people-racist-advisor/
Clement Attlee (a decent man, by all accounts) would be turning in his grave.
At the bottom of the pond lies a particularly uncooperative DVD player,
Don’t worry, you’re among friends here. We won’t judge you.
[ Quietly updates dossier. ]
Handy hints and tips on how to be progressive.
Handy hints and tips on how to be progressive.
Companion piece, Handy Guide To Left Wing People.
RTWT…
“Nowadays left-wing people are middle-class people. Working class people are a big disappointment to left-wing people.”
Indeed.
More much needed scholarly research for these troubled times, The Lactating Male.
…and between normal and abnormal human physiology, but we’ll gloss over that.
Meanwhile, another expert weighs in.
Related to the Guide To Left Wing People, an observation from elsewhere:
“The Lactating Male”
This was satirized decades ago (sixties?) by science fiction writer Thomas M Disch in a story about a young man of low intelligence with various psychological problems whose therapist prescribes sex surgery: get one lactating breast. Needless to say, this does not do anything to solve his problems.
“Are progressives ever happy? The answer of course is no”
Not so: they look very happy when they are making others miserable.
Which leaves me to ask: Are progressives ever happy? The answer of course is no, being happy would just make them sad.
Because, for the progressive, all human interaction is zero-sum. If they are happy, by definition, they have “stolen” that emotion from someone else. Thus, they must demonstrate their own moral innocence by constantly affecting a state of anger or fear or grief, even if that means appropriating the tribulations of others or fabricating outrage on behalf of those too benighted to realize their own horrid circumstances. It’s why we’re subjected to all those My-Eyes-Glaze-Over (MEGO) diatribes every fourth week in November about the horrors of the Thanksgiving holiday.
Joe Rogan talks with Douglas Murray.
So, David, is Turkey a Net Exporter of such stuff? 🙂
is Turkey a Net Exporter of such stuff? 🙂
It’s not really my area of expertise.
[ Eyes room for someone who looks like they might know. ]
pornography of animals having sex… It was very hardcore
I don’t understand how to process that collection of words.
[ Eyes room for someone who looks like they might know. ]
So, the last four comments bring this thread to a screeching halt.
I’ve never seen the place look so shifty.
(edges towards door)
Meanwhile.
So, the last four comments bring this thread to a screeching halt.
…
I’ve never seen the place look so shifty.
Meanwhile.
I posted that earlier, a little upthread. Well, not that exact tweet, but certainly the same story. I can’t help feeling that all the Tories need to do in the next general election is print leaflets showing the various remarks made by people like that who are members/supporters of the Labour Party, and distribute them in their traditional strongholds in the north. I’d bet money on them winning a landslide. Yes, the current Tories are weak and useless, but in their favour they don’t actually appear to hate vast swathes of the electorate and view them as an enemy to be destroyed.
the current Tories are weak and useless, but in their favour they don’t actually appear to hate vast swathes of the electorate and view them as an enemy to be destroyed
True, but you could not slide even a silver Rizla paper between the mainstream Tories of 2018 and New Labour a decade earlier. May is exactly the same sort of nannying big-state authoritarian as Gordon Brown.
I meant to say this earlier David, but bravo for for “recreational outrage’!
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More woke than thou ….
OUT: Vagina Monologues
IN: Stripped
Particularly precious entry in The Victim Privilege Games
Particularly precious entry in The Victim Privilege Games
Imagine my surprise on learning that the show that will “focus on issues of social justice, microaggressions, sexual violence, domestic violence, abortion, and body image.”
And if that’s not a good night out, I don’t know what is.
I’m guessing that in each case the answer is no.
If sociopaths like Yvette Felarca are any indication, there’s no guessing. The pseudonymous Theodore Dalrymple has observed that in his interactions with incarcerated violent criminals, the one thing they had in common was a total psychological rejection of any agency or responsibility for their acts – “the knife just went in”.
That’s why it’s so important that these activists be punished, and publicly, for their crimes against person and property. They’ll never have their come-to-Jesus moment, but it’s important that anyone else tempted to act out sees that there are consequences to such behaviour. Pour encourager les autres, you know.
(edges towards door)
(Was going to raise my hand for another drink, but am thinking maybe I’d better not.)
That’s why it’s so important that these activists be punished, and publicly, for their crimes against person and property.
Absolutely. It’s strange just how often “woke” posturing calls to mind the wife beater’s whisper of “Don’t make me hurt you, baby.” And the repeated failure to enforce the normal (and just) consequences for criminality and antisocial behaviour – a failure that can currently be seen on several fronts, often with institutional affirmation – is a sign of cultural decay.
And if Ms Flores thinks it was terribly unfair of the driver in question to try to get away from the mob of which she chose to be part, maybe she should consider what can happen to people who don’t.
That’s horrible. What the hell is *wrong* with these people?
Re What’s-her-name Antonova: her prose ain’t any great shakes, either. Someone who can use that many words to say nothing should be writing political speeches.
That’s horrible. What the hell is *wrong* with these people?
What’s dismaying is that while the lone female motorist is being trapped and harassed by the mob of warriors for “social justice,” and while people are trying to smash the windscreen into her face – because terrifying random women is such fun, so hey, why not? – while all of this is happening, the Mao-lings amuse themselves by using their phones to record her distress.
As if it were the kind of thing that righteous people do.
“as a…neuro-divergent…person”
I.e., personality problems. Has trouble relating to people?
Pst314: “Neuro-divergent” is PC for “autistic.”
Social services lady: And are you neuro-divergent?
Son of Pogonip: No, I’m autistic.
Lady gets look on her face like he had issued a particularly pungent fart. 😄
He wasn’t kidding her, either. The autistic don’t, and can’t, kid. They take everything literally. But I don’t think she knew that, so it was pretty funny.
With everyone pointing fingers in every direction these days, I have yet to hear anyone blame Bill Gates or Steve Jobs (PBUH) for starting this whole mess and “visioning” this gosh darn future we presently inhabit. And Al Gore who invented the Internet comes in for a fat slice of blame in my humble opinion.
[…] the repeated failure to enforce the normal (and just) consequences for criminality and antisocial behaviour […] is a sign of cultural decay.
Giuliani’s “broken windows” theory of crime prevention worked. When you demonstrate that small transgressions won’t be tolerated, people won’t escalate to the major ones.
Giuliani’s “broken windows” theory of crime prevention worked. When you demonstrate that small transgressions won’t be tolerated, people won’t escalate to the major ones.
And that’s why liberals opposed it: They claimed that they opposed it because it would not work, but in reality it was because they did not want those criminals to be punished.
George Clinton speaks words of wisdom:
http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/27/funkmaster-george-clinton-tired-constant-whining-cultural-appropriation/
…and between normal and abnormal human physiology, but we’ll gloss over that.
We must now say “neurotypical” and “atypical”, or “allistic” and “autistic”. Those of us who are not autistic are members of the “Allistic Hegemony” and we commit actual violence every time we fail to accomdate those who behave in annoying and downright antisocial ways.
George Clinton speaks words of wisdom
Perhaps the Parliament of Funk could issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal. 😀
Actually the autistic are pretty tolerant of everyone else. All they ask is that you stick to the concrete and simple. To the autist, every language, even his native language, is a foreign language. Slow down. Use simple sentences. Don’t ask multi-part questions. “Did you have a good time? Who else went? How was the weather?” You and I could answer this easily but it’s overwhelming for the autist. Break it up. “Did you have a good time?” “ Yes.” “Who else went?” “The henchlesbians.” “How was the weather?” “Sunny.” And avoid slang, simile, and metaphor to the extent possible, they’ll be very grateful. To us “Those social justice warriors all have bees in their bonnets” makes perfect sense; to the autist it’s largely unintelligible. “Social justice” is too abstract for most of them, “ warriors” sounds like knights or samurai or Indians on the warpath, and they will be totally confused by why anybody would have bees swarming around in her hat. “Those girls sure act crazy” is a much better phrasing when talking to the autistic. They’ll be grateful. And when they don’t respond, they’re probably not mad at you. They’re probably just having a particularly bad verbal day and are saving their energy for important conversations like “I need this prescription refilled.” “Your insurance denied it blah blah blah.” Something like that can exhaust an autist for the rest of the day.
You Brits are probably thinking “I need a refill” IS straightforward. Not in the U. S. it isn’t. Thus the example.
pst314,
Perhaps the Parliament of Funk could issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal.
I’m having a very stressful evening, and that just made my day. Thank you so much! 😀
Now that I think about it, nothing in the U. S. is simple these days. I want my country back, and if I can’t have it back then I wish to go someplace less nutty.
The lunacy has reached the point where a lady who was carried into an emergency room received a $17K “surprise bill” because the ER doctor was not “in-network,” that is, the hospital itself had a contract with her insurance company but the particular doctor who treated her that night did not. She was expected to consider all this as she was rushed in. (Even our Congress finds this a tad unreasonable and may do sonething about it in 50 years or so.)
Spiny Norman, pst314: made my day, too!
I think the Parliament of Funk could govern better than those bozos we have now. They could scarcely do worse.
Pogonip:
With many years behind me (my wife will damage me if I am more precise, timewise) of negotiating with non-native English speakers, I can unequivocally state that the virtues of the simple declarative sentence cannot be overstated.
Uh, or some sentiment along those lines. Uhm. Sorry.
What does a bloke have to do to get a drink around here?
Pogonip,
could govern better than those bozos we have now
Probably so, but I must say “useless do-nothing slugs” is somewhat superior to “actively malign” (if the Progressive Left were in the majority).
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Was that me again? I thought it had started to like me! Well, I say like, I mean tolerate…
Spare a thought for we Brits as we endure Snowmageddon.
Was that me again?
Yes. I’ve no idea why you were knocked back at the door. You are wearing a tie, aren’t you?
Of course I’m wearing a tie, surely no-one would think I’d hurriedly repurposed a large pocket handkerchief?
[ Slides nose-hair trimmer along bar. ]