Just Let Me Check Who I Am
From the Telegraph, the thrill of modern high-street banking:
If your eyebrows have even twitched ever so slightly, you’re a very bad person.
Because the above is part of an “LGBT-friendly diversity measure,” endorsed by Stonewall, and is therefore beyond reproach. Indeed, it’s the very measure of moral sophistication. The cutting edge of corrected thought. And employees who aren’t sure who or what they are at any given time must be encouraged to enact their “masculine and feminine” personas according to mood and medication.
Hence the double-sided lanyards, obviously.
It’s not just a matter of lanyards, of course:
Oh shiny tomorrow.
Employees have also been trained in “how to confront non-inclusive behaviours.” Which I’m assuming includes customers whose eyebrows are not yet under control.
We have, needless to say, been here before:
Because “gender fluid” and “bigender” employees should have “multiple pass-cards with different forms of gender expression or linked email accounts / intranet accounts with different names and photos.” You see, “workplace equality” will apparently be enhanced by enabling “non-binary employees to have their identities recognised on all employee-facing workplace systems.”
And by introducing confusion and farce into the workplace, along with security complications and a kind of obligatory collective pretension. Such that employees may be unsure of which make-believe “identity” a colleague is inhabiting on any given day and, consequently, which email address to use in order to avoid complaints or claims of being oppressed.
But hey, banking and mental illness, together at last.
It’s not going to end well, is it?
We are, it seems, in the Uncanny Valley. Everyone remember where we parked.
Long time listener, first time…
Then there is this utterly insufferable fursona
https://cohost.org/stillinbeta/post/1847579-that-time-i-posted-m
The entitlement, lack of self awareness 🤦♂️
Does this rat-baggery apply in the board room as well? There will be burst capillaries around the gills on a few old troopers. Would like to see shareholders at the AGM sporting their loopy lanyards, with those flashing LED’s for the special occasion.
Pull up a stool. I’ll start a bar tab.
What could go wrong?
New NatWest ad slogan?
Just imagine going into your local branch (a feat of imagination in itself considering the number of closures):-
“Good morning. I was in here yesterday and spoke to Mark. He told me to come back today”.
”I’m afraid Mark is not in today”
”But I can see him sitting at that desk behind you”
”That is Martha. I have just told you Mark isn’t in today”
””This is silly. Can I just speak to him”.
””We do not tolerate misgendering our colleagues. Your accounts will now be closed. Good day (bigot – muttered under breath but still loud enough for anyone in the next postcode to hear)”.
You seem to have given this more thought than the NatWest has.
All bank adverts piss me off these days. I never thought I’d miss Howard from the Halifax.
Given that Nigel Farage, and several other people, have had their accounts closed do to perceived wrong-think it’s not something that requires imagination. Of course good ole Rishi has risen to the fight saying that banks can’t do that, isn’t cricket you know, and they’ll be investigated. Of course for those affected who aren’t powerful and hugely wealthy the process is the punishment and their lives – and credit ratings – will be severely affected while sorting it out.
One of the things about failing to teach history is that people don’t realise social mores tend to swing back and forth. Everyone just knows that the British are uptight because – Victorians, innit? How many know that the social conservatism of the Victorians was a response to what was, with minimal hyperbole, a constant rolling sex and alcohol party. Victoria essentially looked around when she got to the throne and said, “No, we shan’t be having that anymore.” and you got covered piano legs.
It will snap back and boy howdy will it be brutal.
I wonder what NatWest’s insurers think about putting people with obvious mental illness in charge of customer’s money and personal details. I’m sure they’re sleeping soundly… just like babes.
I’m guessing this is the same NatWest, once a part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group, that HM government bailed out to the tune of £48,000,000,000 ($61,000,000,000 US) back in 2008, taking an 84% share in its ownership?
The same NatWest that HM government sold its shares in just last month for almost half of what they had originally paid (500p a share in 2008 vs 268.4 a share in 2023)?
I see.
@long time listener, first time
A word to the wise; don’t complain about the beer being cloudy, you’ll be fobbed off with the excuse that the glasses are dirty. Oh, and the pickled eggs are supposed to be covered in green fur.
Do help yourselves.
Heh. Re hypothetical Mark/Martha…back in the bad old 80’s when I worked launching space shuttles, one of my coworkers was gay. Of course this being the 80’s and the job requiring a secret clearance this was…problematic. Thus it was something kept on the QT by us younger people who had figured it out. So anyway, when said coworker referred to his significant other, he would use the name ‘Mary’. Apparently his SO’s name was really ‘Mark’ and one day he started to say ‘Mark’ but caught himself just in time and stopped at ‘Marrrr’. So in order to sell this save, he said that was his new pet-name for ‘her’ and from that point on that was the name he used. Long before the That’s Pat SNL skit about Pat/Pat and Chris/Chris, ‘Mar’ was our term for an abstract person of undetermined gender. It never made it all the way into a technical manual but it was in a first edit of a change/update that I know of. Not saying how I know…
Thus people who have a sense of history and try to keep themselves and the world around them, what little influence they have on the latter, on an even keel are almost perpetually viewed as socially awkward.
Problematic due to security concerns re vulnerability to blackmail. But if he is not closeted, he cannot be blackmailed. But with the trans and queer spectrum of sexualities, we have the problem of numerous accompanying behavioral disorders.
“gender fluid” and “bigender” employees
I first read “bi-gender” as “big-ender” and thought, “Oh, is that what the fat-asses want to be called now?”
I read it a ‘big-ender’ and it makes me think of the dispute Jonathan Swift wrote of between them and the ‘little-enders’ about the correct way of cracking a boiled egg.
I wonder if, along with two-sided identity lanyards, aspiring transsexuals also receive an Aston Martin with a revolving license plate, and keys to storage boxes in various train stations–complete with boxes of passports, false mustaches, enormous wigs, and stacks of cash in various currencies.
Or Jonathan Swift’s war between the Big-endians and the Little-endians.
Or the war between IBM Big-endians vs. Intel Little-endians.
“We don’t care what you call us, as long as you notice us.”
Band name.
I see.
First, only two gender identities? What about the non-binaries or any of the too numerous to count “genders”? Doesn’t sound very diverse, inclusive, and equitable.
Regardless, let us say you are some factotum in the Luton branch and need to contact some counterpart in the London branch do you guess what the London guy is today – might not be a Mx but some other made up nonsense – do names in the address book change color? Are there signal flags? What if the guy changes suddenly in the middle of the day?
Important questions that need to be answered now that they have all their other problems sorted.
I’m guessing this is the same NatWest, once a part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group
It still is part of the RBS Group – TPTB in the company decided to go with the NatWest name as a trading name because of the very nasty smell the RBS name has – starting with Fred Whatsisname.
It can happen. As noted here:
And more generally, as a group, people with unstable personalities are much more inclined towards behaviour that is erratic, impulsive, and often manipulative. Not ideal in, say, banking.
Or indeed the police force.
They’re actually ridiculing themselves and this concept, but they don’t notice because of the mind warping coverage they get from the media.
How about they just wear tags announcing “I am legion”?
if those ‘identities’ are alternating rapidly and involuntarily
Hmm: mostly quite deliberately, and with malice, or at least narcissism, aforethought, I’d guess…
Not ideal in, say, banking.
Wait, you are saying this woke preening might have something to do with their overall lackluster performance?
I am pretty sure a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic suggestion like that warrants regrooving.
Here’s the thing…Banks are all about confidence. Faith. Consistency. I’m not saying people should boycott, I more question the financial intelligence of people who put their money there. Of course bank deposits are mostly insured these days but if I had a business moving hundreds of thousands of dollars around, amounts much greater than the insurance limits, I’d be thinking real hard about moving my business elsewhere. Though with the recent failures of Silicon Valley Bank and the crypto bank fiasco, I suppose those are wink-and-a-nod insured. If you care to rely on that. But of course thinking such bad-thought is nearly criminal in even moderate sized businesses these days…bah…nevermind…
So rapidly as to induce seizures. OSHA should get involved.
Much of what the left does seems calculated to transform us from a high-trust society into a low-trust society.
Much of what the left does seems calculated to transform us from a high-trust society into a low-trust society.
Indeed. Divide us by male vs female, races, religions and have us tear at each other’s throats. Not high trust. A low trust society sucks. Every transaction is like a hostage exchange. Retail goods are locked up. Stores must pay for guards so prices go up. Since you don’t trust the cops to protect you or your store, people become vigilantes. It is ugly.
Have to wonder if they would extend the same . . . courtesy . . . to an employee who occasionally ‘identified’ as a thief?
Doesn’t that presume the NatWest has given it some thought?
Ooh, wild camel. Putting on the dog for the neophyte.
Involuntarily?
Please pardon a certain soupçon of doubt.
Putting on the dog for the neophyte.
Unfortunately, putting on the dog is probably not an idiom in this case.
Here’s some good news. In light of the SCOTUS decision regarding gay cakes and such, businesses are deciding to advertise that they do not do business at all with certain kinds of people, Trump supporters mostly. I look forward to being so discriminated against.
Thereby simultaneously advertising their “virtue” and their ignorance of the law (or their dishonesty).
If a business did discriminate thusly, it might be possible to sue them for large sums.
It could be argued that dishonesty is an integral part of their ‘virtue.’ As is their ignorance.
Meh. I was denied a job opportunity, a WFH job I could likely do in my sleep, during the summer of the pandemic. I passed the interview quite easily. They gave me a “logic test” which I not only got everything right on but I also pointed out where a couple of their questions were a bit open ended and not properly worded, giving separate correct answers for each interpretation. As we were going through the benefits/health insurance/etc. etc. etc. paperwork the George Floyd riots went into full swing and several corporations were announcing that they were financially supporting BLM. As one of the questions I have been repeatedly asked when applying for security clearance jobs has been “Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or any organization that advocates the violent overthrow of the United States and its constitutional form of government” I thought it prudent to ask if this company (contracting company) or whomever the ultimate customer was (some health system or such, I believe in South Carolina) was financially supporting BLM. I emphasized that my question was specific to BLM, the organization, and only that organization, in the light of my security clearance concerns. They gave me the “we support the NAACP and yadda yadda” or something similar (not BLM specifically), but since I asked such an impertinent question, they could not employ me. If that is not, as I have been told/researched on legal forums, a legitimate reason to sue, I doubt it’s possible to sue a business for not serving you for having certain political beliefs.
But you know what you can sue for in this country? Just say that you walked across some organization’s pool deck, stepped in a chemical, and lost a toe because of that…well that and diabetes. You can sue for that, costing said organization tens of thousands of dollars in insurance fees. That you can sue for. Sure, you may not win, in fact the case doesn’t even have to get to court, though it likely will. Not to worry, some lawyer will take your case and you can use that threat to try to extort a settlement. These are the things you can do and you cannot do with the laws in this country. Get it?
And to be clear, by “just say that you walked across some organization’s pool deck…” I don’t mean hypothetically hypothetically, I mean you just say that you did. You don’t need to produce one shred of evidence that you were ever even there. In fact you can demand that the organization provide the evidence. All of it. Pool records, records of all maintenance people that might have been there. They can ask YOU to provide the pond for them to fish in.
I’ll bet that these two women are not really women.
Dishonest descriptions of suspects can lessen the likelihood of their capture, but the left only cares that criminals not be “misgendered”.
In the same vein An Actor!™ (D List) chimes in:
Good luck enforcing that you nitwit.
I’ll bet that these two women are not really women.
Nonsense, quite common for boys to be assaulted by women 2SD and 6SD above the average UK height of 5’4″.
“We’re gender refugees,”
Needs them, mind you, the city was becoming an absolute LGBT34WD40+ desert and being overrun by yte supremacist right wing reactionaries. I am sure Texas, Florida and other states are aghast at the loss.
Thousands of people are leaving Texas, Florida and other states that are waging a culture war on LGBTQ+ people. Portland needs them.
Portland can have them. Enjoy the crime, drugs, feces, homeless encampments, and high taxes.
“We feel unsafe” shout the hysterics in the alphabet rainbow cult as they run screaming to some progressive hellhole. Heh – drug-addled homeless and the BLM progressive shopping scene crowd don’t bow to your rainbow flag. Good luck in your new home.
Can’t speak for Florida and other states but Texas is just flabbergasted.
No, really.
Pinky swear.