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Heather Mac Donald on pretentious students and their enablers:
This proliferation of in-your-face sexual identities [among students] is all posturing, just part of the dance between students desperate to find one last means of being transgressive and college bureaucrats eager to show their sensitivity and to justify their six-figure salaries. Students who should be studying European history and the roots of the novel — would that such subjects were still taught — are instead combing the farthest reaches of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic Manual for ways to distinguish themselves. By posing what they hope will be rejected demands on their administrations, they seek only to prove that they are living a life of oppression.
And on the remarkable elasticity of “queer theory”:
Today’s identity-based theorising represents a worldview and righteous self-definition that precede facts and analysis.
Not entirely unrelated, Kevin D Williamson on the misplaced moral glamour of defaulting on student loans:
The students… took out loans and used their credit to purchase a defective product, no different from putting a bucket of magic beans on a MasterCard. They made poor decisions with other people’s money, which is not entirely surprising: Access to other people’s money is an invitation to making poor decisions… But just as MasterCard is not responsible if you put a lemon on your credit card (you’d be shocked how many people purchase cars with credit cards), Bank of McNasty and Uncle Stupid are not responsible for legal adults who borrow money to buy sub-par educational services.
And don’t forget the self-described “bacon-eating vegan” who was left shocked and tearful upon discovering that her degrees in “social justice studies” and “gender studies” have zero value in the job market. “My degrees mean NOTHING,” tweeted she. “I don’t even know how to process the reality that is my life now.”
And K C Johnson beholds the mental prowess of student protestors:
After spending the talk itself furiously texting, several [protestors] posed questions once the talk concluded, often reading from their phones. Some of these questions were simply bizarre — one student suggested that my standing up for due process vindicated her fight against rape apologists, while another cited a non-existent FBI report alleging that the odds of being falsely accused of rape are “2.7 million to one.” (This would mean that the Duke lacrosse players might have been the only people falsely accused of rape in American history.)
Video of the event can be found here.
Readers will note that the protestors try to disrupt the lecture before Johnson can even speak, declaring it “bullshit,” without even knowing what, exactly, he’s going to say, or what factual examples he’s going to provide to support his arguments. The protestors then spend the Q&A session reading out dogmatic, pre-prepared statements from their phones – and calling Johnson a “rape apologist” and various other names – before largely ignoring his replies to their pronouncements. They’re too busy applauding each other and looking for the next pile of boilerplate to read out from their phones. He addresses their points, often at length. They don’t address his. And remember, these students – the ones who can’t be bothered to listen and who, based on nothing, dismiss those who disagree with them as “rape apologists” – they think they’re intellectuals. They think they know better, indeed know everything, at the age of 21.
Professor Johnson had initially assumed that, while abusive, incoherent and wildly misinformed, the protestors were at least sincere. Subsequent events have prompted some doubts.
As always, feel free to share your own links and snippets in the comments. It’s what these posts are for.
And remember, these students – the ones who can’t be bothered to listen and who, based on nothing, dismiss those who disagree with them as “rape apologists” – think they’re intellectuals. They think they know better, indeed know everything, at the age of 21.
That. It’s like their ‘education’ has made the worst aspects of being young and stupid something to be proud of.
It’s like their ‘education’ has made the worst aspects of being young and stupid something to be proud of.
Pretty much. It does seem designed to encourage a mix of narcissism and obstinate stupidity. And so you have to wonder how these people will fare when set loose in the real world. And the above is a very mild example of the phenomenon, compared to student protests that involved physical intimidation and smashing windows, thereby showering people with broken glass. They’re so righteous, you see.
. He addresses their points, often at length. They don’t address his
A tactic they learn from many of their professors and most politicians interviewed on TV and such. This works especially well as the wider the footprint of your response, the greater fodder for their finding fault. When they offer little to nothing of substance regarding how their positions would actually work in the real world, they can posture, etc. taking up much of the discussion and thus more time with the focus on themselves. As they offer little to nothing of substance to defend, your potential target is limited to defending your position from their attacks. Basically, defense. The frustrating thing about watching the right in politics is how often they fall for this. What I admired about Thatcher and Reagan is they went on the attack more than most do today. Seems like the right is constantly playing defense. “Socialism is a wonderful idea until you start running ou of other people’s money” <-- that.
@WTP-
Spot on- I can’t find the Telegraph blog piece or I would link to it, but Dan Hannan recently challenged those who promulgate socialism to compare like-with-like when denigrating free-market capitalism. “Don’t just carp endlessly about the vicissitudes of capitalism- show me why socialism would work better by pointing out a country where the people have prospered and freedom has flourished as consequences of adopting socialism”. They can’t, of course- so they rely on identity politics and victimhood status, and simplistic fables such as “Billy Elliott”. Take this article in the Guardian, for instance. As a number of comments make clear, coal mining in Ayrshire and Lanarkshire became virtually defunct under the Wilson and Callaghan governments, whereas under Thatcher only one pit closed; yet “Thatcherism” became the great shibboleth of the Left, and the lady herself an almost demonic hate-figure, and thirty years on from the miners’ strike they wish for “justice” for the harm they firmly believe she inflicted upon their communities.
I’ve been thinking about the invisible knapsack of privilege a lot recently.
So, obviously, male privilege, white privilege, and people who can spell good privalege.
But in mapping the contours of our oppressive cispatriarchal society, why is nobody talking about cat privilege?
The microaggressions I navigate every day as a cat’s companion (not “owner”, that is a racist term bound up with problematic associations with slavery) deserve their own Tumblr page.
I realised this just the other day when my cat, Princess Fluffybottom, stood in front of a door and loudly demanded that I open it for her.
The door already has a cat flap built in, but she refuses to use it. Instead, she issues passive-aggressive commands laced with the implicit threat that if I don’t comply swiftly she will claw the furniture.
“Mrrow!”, she declared. So I got up to open the door for her.
She walked through the doorway, then immediately came back into the room, with a smug look on her furry-yet-mysterious face.
The entire thing was a rigmarole designed to humiliate me and remind me of my subordinate place in the feline colonialist hierarchy.
How can cats be good allies when they refuse to check their privilege?
Poos, useless, stupid little buggers. Put through an educational system that doesn’t educate and raised by parents who tolerated it.
Are we talking cats or students?
Bank of McNasty and Uncle Stupid are not responsible for legal adults who borrow money to buy sub-par educational services.
True, as far is it goes. Certainly the end blame belongs to those who borrowed the money for worthless degrees. However, the U.S. government enabled the whole thing by agreeing to guarantee those loans in the first instance. With those guaranties, banks said, “Sure, we’ll loan the money and universities had no incentive to keep costs reasonable. Thus, all of the normal market mechanisms designed to inhibit bad spending and control costs were removed from the equation. The alcoholic may have the ultimate responsibility for drinking, but the person who puts up an open bar outside the Alcoholics Anonymous meeting shouldn’t be let off the hook entirely, either.
WTP – What I admired about Thatcher and Reagan is they went on the attack more than most do today. Seems like the right is constantly playing defense.
They hope that, if they keep their heads down, the left will stop calling them racists and sexists and top-hatted exploiters of the poor.
It hasn’t worked.
The Right seems to assume they’re debating in the Oxford Union, where elegant dialectic will be rewarded.
But they’re not. They’re talking to an electorate with high time preferences, a short attention span, a shaky or nonexistent grasp of history, economics, and constitutional issues, and half of whom are below average intelligence.
You can’t fight leftist demagoguery with sweet reason. You have to get down and dirty with some emotive rhetoric of your own.
That’s why they hated Thatcher and Reagan. That’s why – though she’s not in the same weight class as those titans of twentieth century statesmanship – they still hate Sarah Palin.
Remember when Mrs Palin burst onto the scene in 2008? She was plainspoken, charismatic, energetic, and she tore rhetorical strips off of Obama.
The left was terrified of her. They invested tremendous time and energy into attacking her, because she was such a threat. They’d much rather deal with a stodgy “moderate” conservative like McCain or Romney, because those guys don’t put up much of a fight.
It’s worth noting that the behaviour above isn’t just reserved for conservatives and people self-described as on the right. Professor Johnson isn’t a Republican and actually, I think, voted for Obama. Not that this has spared him the wrath of the Clown Shoe Left™. Apparently he’s impure and therefore must be punished. And so the protestors accuse Johnson of “spewing misleading discourses,” while themselves inventing citations that don’t in fact exist and then lying repeatedly about what was actually said. In the name of “social justice.”
And don’t forget this almost Kafkaesque incident.
@Steve
How can cats be good allies when they refuse to check their privilege?
They can’t. Get a dog. Preferably two. Nothing beats my two Malamutes for keeping annoying religious types off the front porch. Within our “den,” I am the Alpha.
It’s good to be king.
Here is a direct link to the Corinthian/Everest 15 referenced in the Kevin Williamson item, and who stand (individually and collectively) not unlike Horatius his own bad self, against the evil hordes of lenders.
Go and read the epics of these heroes among whom number Tom who spent 6 years and $48,000 to get an associates degree, and Nathan perplexed by why he has to work two minimum wage jobs despite being the proud possessor of a $78,000 on-line bachelor degree. Marvel at the courage of Makenzie who, “can’t – and won’t – pay back”, her loans, but to no one’s surprise, can afford multiple tattoos and piercings.
Regardless of whether the Corinthian system might be on the shady side, this lot proves P.T. Barnum right.
But in mapping the contours of our oppressive cispatriarchal society, why is nobody talking about cat privilege?
Steve:
About Cat Privilege
And in the interests of equal time:
This Is Dog Privilege
It’s worth noting that the behaviour above isn’t just reserved for conservatives and people self-described as on the right. Professor Johnson isn’t a Republican and actually, I think, voted for Obama.
True. Confess I didn’t follow the link, just based on what was presented here. And whilst in full confession mode, I’ve encountered very similar obstinacy coming from people on the right as the subject of evolution keeps popping up. The creationist camp likes to play fast and loose with what they actually believe all the while it’s tora, tora, tora on evolutionary theory, which they often (always?) present as something that stands alone. And similar when discussing the dreaded a-word in regard to how the implementation of actual full and complete banning would work in the real world. There was also a third subject that’s been putting sand in my shorts lately but seems to have slipped my mind since I started typing this…But basically it all boils down to a form of argumentation that presents no solid foundation for one’s own beliefs while taking the piss (did I use that right?) in regard to someone with the cajones to present an actual tangible position.
while taking the piss (did I use that right?)
I believe so, yes.
Somewhat related to my previous of 13:38… The ladies at Jezebel are, shall we say, unhindered by the truth. And of course unwilling to apologise when caught dissembling. I’m sure you’re all shocked.
Though I do like the term “conservative werewolf.”
Yeah, I like the Find another thing to be outraged about sweet, sweet Walkerites. – See more at: “>http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=56301#sthash.LoKNvRLd.dpuf
See, they scream their outrage and when someone calls them on it they accuse those refuting the outrage as being the outraged ones. It’s win/win. A tactic common from those I describe above vis-a-vis left and right who slip and slide from any definitive position.
I’ve been working on a theory lately that the lack of self awareness can be very advantageous in social, political, and corporate climbing. But I repeat myself.
R. Sherman – Dog “ownership” just reinforces the harmful paradigm of dog-identified persons being the subordinate “property” of human-identified persons.
Note the shaming language used as a habitual form of verbal aggression to control people of canine orientation. If xe pees on the rug, xe is a “bad dog”.
But how can a dog be “bad” within a culture of white male human supremacy that simultaneously strips them of agency and brutally indoctrinates them to the petonormative role of “man’s best friend”?
#BarkLivesMatter
Ted S. – Cat Privilege is living in the CATskill Mountains, and nobody asking where the Houndtalent Hills are.
#MoggyLobby
“They’re too busy applauding each other and looking for the next pile of boilerplate to read out from their phones. He addresses their points, often at length. They don’t address his.”
Oh, I’ve been there. And that was real politics, not the student variety. I remember there was one particularly obnoxious bloke who only ever seemed to look up from his Boys’ Bumper Book of Talking Points to make sure I was still there.
Steve: The Catskill Mountains are actually a matter of dog privilege, pointing out who cats are evil murderers and remaining silent on dogs’ doing it.
Cat privilege is taking a picture of my dog enjoying the snow.
And this, by Franklin, is worth a squint:
Heh.
About Cat Privilege
Of course there is a rather definitive summation of dog’s relationship to cats . . .
@Steve,
True enough. But the fact of the matter is, my dogs are my minions and do my bidding at my command. You’ll never say that about a cat.
Plus, I allow my inner tyrant to express itself with the Malamutes, thereby preventing me from running for political office.
You can send me a ham next Christmas as a “Thank you.”
The house takes 10% of any ham that changes hands.
Though I do like the term “conservative werewolf.”
Which raises the question: have you read Larry Correia’s Monster Hunter books? Very fun, and one of the major secondary characters (though given that one book is dedicated entirely to him, the term “secondary” may be misleading) is a werewolf, and implicity rather conservative (though there are no overt political discussions, he doesn’t like the Feds and is quite willing to break laws he sees as stupid).
Highly recommended if you enjoy urban fantasy/horror in which monsters can be killed with sufficient application of firepower.
“This proliferation of in-your-face sexual identities [among students] is all posturing, just part of the dance between students desperate to find one last means of being transgressive…”
Cheaper option: Just pay $10 for a midnight showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Are 10 sets of gender pronouns enough for today’s students?
“The new gender identification page in the student portal will allow students to choose from the following pronouns: e/ey, em, eir/eirs, eirself/emse; he, him, his, himself; hu, hum, hus, humself; “just my name please;” none; per, per, per/pers, perself; she, her, hers, herself; they, them, their/theirs, themse; ze, hir, hir/hirs, hirself; and ze, zir, zir/zirs, zirself.”
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6326
“My degrees mean NOTHING … I don’t even know how to process the reality that is my life now.”
That says it all for mine. Its as though reasonably intelligent high-school kids go into SS&H courses at university, and are in some mysterious way de-educated.
Not only are they taught crap, usually by bald assertion unsupported by logic, evidence and analysis. They are also, it seems, stripped of any of the mental skills they may have possessed, which make for a rational, independent human being. They are taught what to think, not how to think.
And so they end up as unemployable, victim-identifying, incoherent exemplars of learned helplessness. And they (or more likely their dumb, indulgent parents) pay tens of thousands of dollars for this dubious privilege.
For most products of western society, there is a period of use between the factory and the wrecker’s yard. In SS&H, it seems that the factory and the wrecker’s yard have become united.
The house takes 10% of any ham that changes hands.
I believe for that you’re going to have to track down the respective agents for Ji-Tu Cumbuka, Lindsay Wagner, Lee Majors, Shih Kien, and anyone else for whom such applies . . .
How many genderqueer activists can dance on the head of a pin? What an intellectually cramped life these silly, silly people lead. It’s notable that, if their online writings are anything to go by, very few of these people seem to be able to construct cogently-argued, grammatically-correct prose, despite the bulk of them being nominally enrolled in disciplines in which the written word would, one would surmise, be of paramount importance. However they’re clueless about mathematics, science and engineering into the bargain. A university is a desperately uncongenial place for those of middling intellect, which is why the expansion of tertiary education, both in the US and the UK, has been such a cruel exercise. Spending three or four years of early adulthood learning toxic, meretricious bullshit is bad enough. Winding up with a huge student loan debt before one’s active career has started is a great impediment to future happiness. But to do both is just crazy. A degree in chemical engineering from Princeton might well be worth the $200,000 it cost. Raging against the Patriarchy might be relatively harmless if it didn’t cost anything and the rager (or ragette) didn’t expect a job at the end of it. Six figure debt and a diploma from Scripps in something puerile? Bad idea.
Thanks for the boost. We’ll see if anyone learns anything.
It’s notable that, if their online writings are anything to go by, very few of these people seem to be able to construct cogently-argued, grammatically-correct prose, despite the bulk of them being nominally enrolled in disciplines in which the written word would, one would surmise, be of paramount importance.
Have you read the prose of many of their instructors? We’re on the second or third generation of this problem. Nothing’s real. Everything’s a copy of a copy of a copy.
Dogs don’t bury their offal, they smell like wet dogs when wet, and they’re blithering sycophants with no self-regard, for which reason I must needs hold them in contempt.
Oh yes, cats are exceptionally good at microaggression: walking immediately in front of a human only slightly slower, lightly touching a human’s hand with the whiskers (so light as to provoke rage), and cussing out humans for not following the schedule approved by the cat.
However.
Cats don’t bark; dogs don’t purr.
That is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
I’ve encountered very similar obstinacy coming from people on the right as the subject of evolution keeps popping up.
I’m sure this is no surprise to anyone here, but Christians who insist on Biblical literalism as opposed to evolution do so not on the basis of stupidity or faulty thinking but of loyalty.
When presented with “God or Science” as mutually exclusive options, the God-fearing go with God, not because they can’t think clearly about science but because their hearts belong to God and they don’t see any reason to replace God with some dead Englishman.
Who is dead, whereas their God is alive and not dead.
(I’m a believer in God who sees evolution/creation as a false dichotomy — I don’t think Genesis was written as a grasping attempt at science nor do I think the fossil record makes for very good scripture. I just let all the questions ride.)
In other words, those who reject evolution aren’t anti-science so much as they are anti-Smirking Hipster.
YMMV
Are 10 sets of gender pronouns enough for today’s students?
Just imagine the potential for new unintentional offences against delicate per-sexual snowflakes who take zirselves too seriously.
It’s as though reasonably intelligent high-school kids go into SS&H courses at university, and are in some mysterious way de-educated.
Heh. It does often seem that students of the humanities and social science are not so much educated as processed. By which I mean, taught which attitudes and vanities are to be cultivated and displayed, and which errors of logic are not to be noticed. Which may explain why things like this are so common. And this, and this, and so on and so forth.
[ Added: ]
Note that in the first two of the links above, supposed experts in supposedly scholarly fields make grandiose claims based on little, if any, evidence. There’s Dr Ben Pitcher, who pretends to see racism in furniture choices and discussions of soil acidity, and Dr Peter Matthews, who doesn’t read the reports he links to and thinks litter is unconnected with anyone actually dropping it. Both are comically unrealistic. When challenged on his bizarre errors and mocked accordingly, Dr Pitcher doubled down on his pretensions and then claimed he didn’t say what he immediately went on to repeat, seemingly oblivious to the contradiction, while denouncing his critics as “little Englanders.”
They, unlike he, are unenlightened.
Sam:
Not to mention it doesn’t include my preferred pronoun, which is “his glorious and most benificent majesty, peace be upon him”.
What? That’s how I self-identify. Stop oppressing me.
When presented with “God or Science” as mutually exclusive options, the God-fearing go with God, not because they can’t think clearly about science but because their hearts belong to God and they don’t see any reason to replace God with some dead Englishman.
Many, though not all, create the false dichotomy of God or Science themselves. Many, though not all, will drag this ultimatum into the discussion as a means of dismissing the theory entirely. Yes, Darwin is dead. So is Moses, Paul, Newton, Kant, and all those DWM which western civilization reveres to the consternation of those on the far left. Belief in God is not an excuse to stick ones head in the sand in regard to obvious fact and reason. Of course whatever someone wants to believe is obviously their own business. One can deny the facts of evolution just as one can deny the facts of economics. But an attempt to drag the rest of society into one’s delusions deserves the resulting blowback. The hypersensitivity that acceptance of evolution is somehow proof that God does not exist is a tell on one’s shallow exploration of one’s beliefs.
Speaking of that high-minded campus life…
No fewer than 400 little warriors were outraged that guests were allowed to wear sombreros and ponchos at their own private costume party.
Di,
Dogs don’t bury their offal, they smell like wet dogs when wet, and they’re blithering sycophants with no self-regard, for which reason I must needs hold them in contempt.
They also don’t stand around staring into space while burglars cart off the big screen. Plus, I’ve trained my two to poop in my obnoxious, leftist neighbor’s yard in the middle of the night.
So, I’ve got that going for me, as well.
Zir as a pronoun reminds me a little too much of Zey, as in “Zey Vill Obey!” (from some nazi movie or other) But I suppose the difference is that Zey was bad and Zir is good. Nicht Wahr?
No fewer than 400 little warriors were outraged
Or pretending to be outraged.
Or pretending to be outraged.
Despite their protestations, I doubt the umbrage-taking students are quite as concerned with ‘respect’ and ‘sensitivity’ as they would have us believe. They don’t seem at all respectful of other people’s private space and wardrobe choices therein. It seems more likely they just like scolding people. And power disguised as virtue. Perhaps they don’t get invited to parties very often.
And no, the drama above isn’t a random one-off. Even the rumour of a fancy dress party can trigger the Pretentious Sensitivity Alarm™.
Zir as a pronoun reminds me a little too much of Zey, as in “Zey Vill Obey!”
Ah, yes, I remember Major Hochstetter . . .
You vill haff a fair trail, und den you vill be shot.
One can deny the facts of evolution just as one can deny the facts of economics. But an attempt to drag the rest of society into one’s delusions deserves the resulting blowback.
Depends on what that “dragging” entails. If it’s just a matter of continued obnoxious Internet arguments, I don’t consider that a problem. If it’s some kind of public policy predicated on young-earth Creationism that will cause grave consequences when reality eventually asserts itself, that’s another thing. However, I’ve yet to see the public policy whose basis is Creationism at the expense of reality.
Insisting on teaching creationism in the schools alongside (or even in lieu of) evolution is obnoxious but ultimately harmless. Kids who have a penchant for science will pursue it regardless of what they heard in Church or elementary school. Ultimately, the creationists are harming themselves when they present Creationism as a quasi-scientific alternative to evolution, because the DNA evidence clearly shows that all life forms are related. Their college kids will figure they have to choose between God and science, so they’ll choose science, much to the distress of their parents.
The hypersensitivity that acceptance of evolution is somehow proof that God does not exist is a tell on one’s shallow exploration of one’s beliefs.
On both sides of the fight. Calling people ignoramuses for believing in Creationism or heretics for accepting evolution is a problem we really don’t need to have.
Calling people ignoramuses for believing in Creationism or heretics for accepting evolution is a problem we really don’t need to have.
As someone with no religious subscription and an agnostic leaning, it’s hard to see how a grasp of evolution (or a scepticism of religious texts and prophets) has any decisive logical bearing on whether or not the universe has some benign first cause and ultimate source of meaning.
Isn’t it odd where these threads can go?
Insisting on teaching creationism in the schools alongside (or even in lieu of) evolution is obnoxious but ultimately harmless.
Having once been taught such, I would argue rather strongly otherwise. Yes, to put too much emphasis on just one little aspect of schooling is folly, but to pretend that there are not other ramifications in regard to trust in education authorities, especially when changing schools, is also folly. Of course one can argue that the student should be responsible to ferret out truth from fantasy, but that burden does not belong on the student. Yes, on the whole I would rather be operated on by a doctor who may be a believer in evolution rather than one who went to a school where grades were of the circle/square/triangle variety, but I’d still rather trust my life to someone who can think outside the box if necessary. And yes, there are such young-earth creationist doctors out there. I’ve encountered them in real life and on line.
Calling people ignoramuses for believing in Creationism or heretics for accepting evolution is a problem we really don’t need to have.
Yet it’s one we do have. Avoiding the issue does far more damage to more general conservative causes, and thus society as a whole, than excommunication does to churches and such. And politicians who give wishy-washy answers to matters of, as you argue, such little consequence undermine their more general message. As Stevageddon noted above, politics is not an Oxford Union debate.
Insisting on teaching creationism in the schools alongside (or even in lieu of) evolution is obnoxious but ultimately harmless.
. . . ultimately harmless until being the one doing the scheduling.
Sooo, on Monday, what will be taught is the Hindu creationist theory, on Tuesday there will be the Raelean theory, on Wednesday the Scientologists come in, Thursday is the Gnostics, on Friday the Apaches—yes, the native American tribe. The next Monday we go with Cthulhu, because faith is faith is faith, and when using the title of god, there has to be an indicator of which god, according to which subsect or cult, because just saying god is just like being in early medieval Europe and referring to the king—Ah, which king?!?!?! So, Tuesday is the Pastafarians. Wednesday is Shinto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Or, just go with the easiest and elegant, teach scientific practice and observation, based on direct observation, logic, and reason, and leave the students starting in on that . . .
And in other news . . .
‘Unsubstantiated’ child neglect finding for free-range parents and other headlines . . ??!?!?!!!!!!!!!
. . . and other stories . . .
You vill haff a fair trail, und den you vill be shot.
Well, who could be fairer than that – it sounds entirely reasonable.