Not Reading The Room
From the Stage pages of the Guardian, a reminder of which concerns – and by extension which citizens – simply don’t matter:
As if the issue weren’t already foremost in a great many minds, perhaps due to unhappy first-hand experience. Note, too, the conflation of migrants and refugees. As if those arriving in vast numbers, welcome or otherwise, legally or not, were some homogenous mass of human sorrow, and thus, rather conveniently, impossible to refuse.
Readers are welcome to marvel at the conceit that objections to current policy – an effectively borderless nation – can only be the result of ignorance. No other possibilities being conceivable, it seems. And so, the flow of information, of views to be considered, and any expectations of listening, seem likely to travel in one direction only.
Readers will also note the assumption that the indigenous proletariat – those low-status citizens daring to be angry at the downgrading of their home – merely need to have their objections corrected. By drama of a very particular kind. As if concerns regarding rapid demographic transformation and a loss of cultural common ground could only ever be wrong.
As if there were no substance to their fears. No basis for their anger or sense of betrayal. As if it weren’t their neighbourhoods, not those of the luvvie set, being transformed rapidly and against their will – and very often for the worse.
As if they simply have to be told in a slightly different way.
A curious definition of an issue being opened up.
Whether our award-winning actor would be quite so enthusiastic about a compelling drama conveying the “emotional story” and “day-to-day realities” of someone whose home has been degraded and made alienating by the assumptions of people much like Mr Pryce remains unclear.
Though readers are welcome to guess.
Update, via the comments:
EmC adds,
Indeed. It’s not as if feelings on the matter have not been made clear, many times, quite loudly. Governments have been ousted because of this issue. And it’s not as if the consequences of ignoring those feelings are particularly difficult to foresee. Yet somehow the option of just doing as you’ve been told doesn’t appear on the form.
Mr Pryce and his peers seem to imagine that they live in a society without practical limits, or any troublesome human nature, as if the patience of those on whom these demographic fantasies are being imposed were infinite. As if no ugliness could ensue.
The idea that there may be very real physical constraints on some favoured policy – that reality may not comply with half-baked theory – seems entirely alien to those who would lecture us on our ignorance.
Says Rafi,
The disconnect – the inability to read the room – is quite something. And so very Guardian.
It scarcely needs saying that Mr Pryce, like so many of his likeminded peers, is unlikely to find his own neighbourhood enlivened by Congolese and Somali borra gangs, whose modes of expression involve machetes, and I doubt that he’ll find his own doorstep literally being shat on.
And I think we can assume that Mr Pryce has no recent first-hand experience of public transport and the, shall we say, challenges it can now present.
Likewise, I think it’s safe to say that Mr Pryce has not had the experience of visiting a busy high-street optician and realising that he was the only white customer, the only one fluent in English, and the only one paying for their treatment. Now, you might think that people shouldn’t notice such things or draw any conclusions from them, because that would be beastly and mean or something.
But people will, and people do, and wishing otherwise is both immaterial and perverse.
The irony being that those like Mr Pryce, who wish to project an air of piety and kindness, of infinite caring – entirely at others’ expense and while in reality disdaining their own countrymen – are risking a society much less to their own liking. And possibly yours.
A multicultural, multiracial society very much depends on the host population not feeling too imposed upon. The natives must feel respected and secure, not – as is now the case – that the piss is being taken. If the percentage of newcomers rises too high, or too sharply, or with no regard for assimilation and cultural common ground, friction will ensue and rapidly escalate.
The rate at which new arrivals materialise, their sheer numbers, will have an effect on how well, or how poorly, those new arrivals adapt to the customs and values of the host society. Indeed, it will have an effect on whether those new arrivals feel inclined, or obliged, to make any such attempt.
And at the moment we’re way past the point at which the alarm started flashing. And the longer that friction continues, and the more that the concerns of the natives are dismissed or denounced or made taboo, the uglier the pushback is likely to be.
Again,
And so, we arrive at the claim that a suitably loaded drama, a fiction, about refugees “could defuse anti-migrant anger,” because “people aren’t aware of the facts and realities for people living in migrant hotels.” As if that would outweigh all of the things, seen daily, that we’re not supposed to consider. Or consider important. A thing one might express.
As Rmok and others note in the comments, what Mr Pryce advocates does seem very much about putting a thumb on the scale. As revealed by the implied disregard for indigenous objections – the assumption that objections to being swamped with the flotsam of the world, or suddenly being reduced to a racial and cultural minority in one’s own neighbourhood or village, one’s own home, is something to be educated out of you.
By your betters and their stories.
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That.
Stop noticing things. Consume fiction instead.
They’ll try anything except listening to the voters.
Is Mr Pryce going to invest his own money in this oh so right drama production?
They just can’t help talking down to people.
Well, it’s not as if feelings on the matter have not been made clear, many times, quite loudly. One might say vividly. And it’s not as if the consequences of ignoring those feelings are particularly difficult to foresee. Yet somehow the option of just doing as you’ve been told doesn’t appear on the form.
Again, Mr Pryce and his peers seem to imagine that they live in a society without practical limits, and no human nature, as if the patience of those on whom these fantasies are being imposed were infinite. As if no ugliness could ensue.
As I said in earlier post,
Tribes that apparently, according to Mr Snow, shouldn’t exist.
The disconnect – the inability to read the room – is quite something. And so very Guardian.
And again, Mr Pryce, like Mr Snow, is unlikely to find his own neighbourhood enlivened by Congolese and Somali borra gangs, whose modes of expression involve machetes, and I doubt he’ll find his own doorstep literally being shat on.
And I think we can assume that Mr Pryce and Mr Snow have no recent first-hand experience of public transport and the, shall we say, challenges it can now present.
Likewise, I think it’s safe to say that neither of these men have visited a busy high-street optician recently and realised that they were the only white customer, the only one fluent in English, and the only one paying for their treatment.
Now, you might think that people shouldn’t notice such things or draw any conclusions from them, because that would be beastly and mean or something. But people will, and people do, and wishing otherwise is immaterial.
I note Mr. Pryce, currently playing a former head of MI5 now in a nursing home suffering dementia in the latest season of Slow Horses, hasn’t offered to accommodate and feed any of these “poor souls”.
I suppose berating the great unwashed for wrongthink is preferable to having Ahmed from Goatfuckistan as a house guest.
They tried this with that government-funded Adolescence that all the luvvies heaped endless praise on. It had no long term impact on that discussion, and in fact the main discussion about it was highlighting that it was based on black criminals, yet they race-swapped it to blame a white kid.
If they make a similar drama about how hard illegals have it, then we’ll just make the discussion about the sexual crimes committed by people in these hotels as well as the illegal working for companies like Deliveroo.
The irony being that those like Mr Pryce wish to project an air of piety and kindness, of infinite caring, while in reality disdaining their own countrymen, and while risking a society much less to their own liking, or indeed mine.
I actually like living in a country where I run into people from other parts of the world – a neighbour, a shopkeeper, a dentist, whatever. The East Asian dad and his young son, mentioned here, and who was charmingly keen to chat to strangers and to express his appreciation of the Peak District scenery. All good stuff.
But these things don’t exist in some vacuum. They very much depend on the host population not feeling too imposed upon. The natives must feel respected and secure, not – as is now the case – that the piss is being taken. If the percentage of newcomers rises too high, or too sharply, or with no regard for assimilation and cultural common ground, friction will ensue and rapidly escalate.
And the rate at which new arrivals materialise, their sheer numbers, will have an effect on how well, or how poorly, those new arrivals adapt to the customs and values of the host society. Indeed, it will have an effect on whether those new arrivals feel inclined, or obliged, to make any such attempt.
And at the moment we’re way past the point at which the alarm started flashing. And the longer that friction continues, and the more that the concerns of the natives are dismissed or made taboo, the uglier the pushback is likely to be.
This, from here, bears repeating:
Probably more than once.
‘Marvel’ isn’t quite the term. ‘Sigh’, as in ‘sigh in exasperation’, might better suit.
It’s all so tedious, this ugly, cultish notion that ‘if you just think like us, just believe like us, just act like us, just become us, you too will attain the enlightened status we have’.
What are the great unwashed for if not to house and feed those their betters tell them to?
Ever get the feeling progressivism, in all its forms and permutations, is just an elaborate justification for sh*tting on others?
[ Slides suspiciously familiar paper bag to Aelfheld. ]
[ Hurriedly puts Geiger counter away in drawer, muffled crackling. ]
You shouldn’t have.
But you did it anyway.
[ Puts sign on bar. Magic Crackle Rocks, $10. ]
Got any rocks that deeble?
Say, kids who like chocolate frogs.
And what, exactly, has made Mr Pryce such an expert in this subject that he can berate others for their lack of knowledge, and assert that people (with first-hand experience, mind) are reacting to “something they don’t really know anything about.“
When the only tool you have is a hammer…
I’ve said for years that when people say, “You can’t do that,” the Left hears, “You mustn’t” and dismisses it as special pleading. I came to that conclusion from observing their economic antics – you can’t keep spending like there’s no tomorrow; you can’t keep raising taxes and expect increased revenue; you can’t reduce inflation with price controls – but it’s obviously applicable more generally.
Of course, this particular instance is exactly the same point Enoch Powell made over fifty years ago. He wasn’t threatening unrest; he was predicting it. You can’t keep importing immigrants without the indigenous population complaining. You can’t. It. Is. Not. Possible. The irony being that the Left knows this; it’s spent the last 150 years cheering the Powells, Farages, and Robinsons of every continent on earth except this one.
Think this falls into the ‘when you are a tool . . .’ category.
He’s an actor. He plays make-believe. He gets paid for playing make-believe. Doing so imparts no more wisdom to a putative adult than it does to a child leaping from settee to davenport to couch because the floor is lava.
The irony being that the Left knows this; it’s spent the last 150 years cheering the Powells, Farages, and Robinsons of every continent on earth except this one.
The Left finally found an Indigenous population they didn’t like, and a group of colonizers they did. Interesting, that.
Time to go . . .
It’s not an obvious basis for optimism.
The time to go is not when you first see a crime; it’s when you see the first hood rat.
When choosing a neighborhood to live in:
Estimate a safe distance from the nearest “diverse” neighborhood.Double it.
Not sure if I’ve mentioned it here before, but I’ve known a good number of people who bought homes in safe neighborhoods, only to have them deteriorate over the years with the arrival of “diverse” people. Crime, of course, but also disorder of all sorts which made the area unpleasant and stressful.
“Is it them, Yogi? No, Boo-boo.”
Removing sociopaths from society must become a priority.
By “priority” I mean beating them and their cameramen into a coma, branding their faces with “dangerous sociopath”, and only afterwards putting them in prison for as long as possible.
Fake. Unless there’s a real police report or video of what precipitated this, only a fool would take that video at face value.
‘Cleanup, aisle 5’.
Elon’s quirky names: The Boring Company’s tunneling machine is named “Prufrock”.
Estimate a safe distance from the nearest “diverse” neighborhood.Double it.
“Our entire economy is built around avoiding these people”.
I miss the days when a Goon Show was Spike Milligan & Peter Sellers being funny.
And then we can all congratulate ourselves as we stand in the wreckage of what was once a first-world country.
Regarding the claim that a suitably loaded drama, a fiction, about refugees “could defuse anti-migrant anger,” because “people aren’t aware of the facts and realities for people living in migrant hotels,” I’m reminded of what Rmok said in the previous thread,
And what Mr Pryce advocates does seem very much about putting a thumb on the scale. As revealed by the implied disregard for indigenous objections – the assumption that objections to being swamped with the flotsam of the world, or suddenly being reduced to a racial and cultural minority in one’s own neighbourhood or village, one’s own home, is something to be educated out of you.
As if it could only be wrong.
[ Post updated, quite significantly. ]
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Bless you, sir. May you know the sensation of eating chocolate for the first time in many weeks.
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The above does, I think, capture something of a prevailing dynamic. I’ve had exchanges with people – ostensibly nice and caring people – who seem to have no interest whatsoever in the concerns of the natives most impacted by the policies in question. The ones on whom the ongoing transformation is being imposed. Nice and caring people who seem almost taken aback if they should even be invited to consider such low-status variables.
As if they, the people being imposed upon, didn’t count.
The gist, the implication, seemed to be that such people had no business defending their own interests, or the interests of their children and neighbours, or to articulate any fears for the wellbeing of their country. As if this were somehow inadmissible, unworthy of acknowledgement. As if they should simply surrender, quietly, in favour of strangers whose motives and compatibility are often very much in question.
And the white people try to move as far away from it as possible, but they lack the moral courage to say “we want to live in a white society”. And until we have that moral courage we’re basically just running and running until there’s nowhere left to run to.
I live in an area – East Tennessee – that has its fair share of White trash. So, it is not so much a White society I prefer as much as it is a civil society, one where the social contract is honored. One where people are held to their responsibility to take care of themselves and do so not at a cost to others.
The few times – thankfully – I have visited an ER I don’t want to see chain-smoker obese Meemaw sitting there loudly crying that they need to help her because she’s short of breath and when she isn’t seen right away, starts yelling that the hospital staff is “discriminatin’.”
That. Every damn time.
As if they should simply surrender, quietly, in favour of strangers whose motives and compatibility are often very much in question.
Very often but not always, sometimes the strangers have better motives and more compatibility than the natives.
It is a pattern we’ve seen more than once.
See, for instance, Mr Simon Schama, mentioned here. And here.
Worth four minutes of your time, Konstantin Kisin on the issue
I was just about to share that one.
From which, this, by Tim Newman, bears repeating:
Again, probably more than once.
Thomas Sowell pointed out, in Black Rednecks and White Liberals, the connection between contemporary black hood rat culture and white trash redneck culture.