Friday Ephemeraren’t
Yes, a chance to throw together your own pile of links and oddities in the comments. I’ll set the ball rolling with a photoshoot of note; some questionable signage; via Perry, what to do in a crisis; a breakthrough in the world of cosmetics; fun with rope; a rationalisation in progress; and a headline that I assumed was a spoof, but isn’t.
Oh, and because it’s been a while since we’ve had a toilet-related item, flushing difficulties.
Our betters.
Our betters at large.
Dystopia made flesh.
So I’m standing here thinking, “Did I put in six scoops or only five?” In all the excitement this morning I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is robusta bean, the most powerful coffee in the world, and could blow my head clean off, I’ve got to ask myself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well, do ya, punk?
Wear the mask, are you trying to kill granma ?
He’s “deeply sorry” and “pledges to do better,” obviously.
What a pitiful misuse of cranium space. Still, it could be worse: he could be in charge of a multi-billion dollar foundation that funds all manner of pernicious ventures across the globe.
Oh.
Oh.
And the fact that it’s almost certainly pretentious and insincere doesn’t make it any less neurotic or contemptible.
The howl of the outraged.
I remember being in a gay pub in Birmingham in the mid-90s when an attack of soul-crushing boredom drove me to read the noticeboard, where I saw advertised a police liaison group that, well, liaised with the police on matters pertinent to the catamite community. Not really having a life at that time I decided to troll along and see what it was all about. I was the only genuine member of the public there: other than a police officer (sergeant, no less) all the other attendees were professional gays – publicly-funded parasites who made their living doing gay things gaily (outreach work to ‘the gay community’, health promotion for ‘MSM – men who have sex with men’, etc.) It was quite the cozy little clique and I didn’t get the impression that actual members of the public were especially welcome – and this was before I even opened my mouth. Back then I worked in the public sector myself (although the service I provided was practical and available to everyone, rather than 1.2% of the population) so was no stranger to muddle-headed thinking and meaningless jargon, but even I had trouble trying to extract any meaning from the waffle. Of particular concern to them was the subject of ‘PSEs’ and the policing thereof. I learned that these are ‘public sex environments’. I expressed my unhappiness – not just with the ridiculous language, but the very idea: parks, public toilets, canal towpaths and so on have well-defined purposes and should be safe to use for all the public whose money is used to create and maintain them, and should not be claimed by any special-interest group. I got the impression that they had never encountered such an argument before, and they certainly didn’t receive any pushback from the milquetoast police officer. I attended 4-5 of these meetings before notifications of the next gathering ceased, as did public notices. This crap has been going on a hell of a long time.
In case anyone fancies a good laugh at the expense of an empty headed Euro-zealot.
Douglas Murray and Flavia Kleiner debate “Who gets Europe?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3sSnmq9uKU
Kleiner gives an entirely vacuous speech about “what I want from Europe” and then makes the mistake of rounding it off with a couple of snarky, misinformed jabs at Murray.
And Douglas responds … magisterially.
I learned that these are ‘public sex environments’.
I keep having to remind myself that we’re well into the 21st century, and not actually living in the 1950s. The idea of cruising the bushes of some public park, where children play, is essentially a retro kink, a fetish. But Mr Tatchell seems to regard the aforementioned park as if it were the nesting grounds of some endangered species.
the catamite community.
Band name.
Kleiner gives an entirely vacuous speech… and then makes the mistake of rounding it off with a couple of snarky, misinformed jabs at Murray.
As we’ve seen more times than I can count, people who feel a need to signal their piety, not least via the theatrical medium of leftist politics, do tend to be quite obnoxious. And often, utter cunts.
“Scottish National Party candidate experiences Identity crisis.“
Heh. They genuinely believe it’s different when they do it. (See also “named persons”, Offensive Behaviour at Football Grounds Act, “Hate Speech” Bill…)
…and then makes the mistake of rounding it off with a couple of snarky, misinformed jabs at Murray.
@Horace Dunn at what point in the video does this occur? I did a quick search through, but it’s an hour ten long and much of what Kleiner has to say is vacuous and difficult to listen to. I was able to find Murray’s response at the end followed by Kleiner’s denial, I just can’t find her original statement. Thanks.
Musically trained
Musically trained
Kleiner gives an entirely vacuous speech… and then makes the mistake of rounding it off with a couple of snarky, misinformed jabs at Murray.
There’s a fairly obvious contrast in disposition and approach. Murray is thoughtful, knowledgeable, and curious. He listens carefully and tests his opponent’s assumptions, explores what they imply. In contrast, Ms Kleiner seems doctrinaire, presumptuous, and morally glib. When Murray replies to some specific claim or conceit, Ms Kleiner seems uninterested in any possible oversights on her part, as if even listening to the other person were some achingly tedious chore. Presumably on grounds that anyone who disagrees must be insufficiently leftwing, i.e., unwilling to pretend all of the things that she pretends, and therefore unworthy.
It’s not unusual in discussions of this kind, or on this particular subject, or indeed in almost any discussion involving people like Ms Kleiner, of which there are so many. But it is, I think, telling.
@Steve E
She makes various snide remarks. But listen from 24.00 until about 26.20 for the main part. The crack about “they don’t even show up in person” by the way refers to the fact that Murray is debating remotely. It has already been clearly established that Murray had intended to be there but had been unable to do so because of quarantine restrictions, so why wonders why Kleiner thought that this would win her points.
Also, listen to Murray’s closing remarks from 1.06.50 until about 1.08.20 are particularly good.
As we’ve seen more times than I can count, people who feel a need to signal their piety, not least via the theatrical medium of leftist politics, do tend to be quite obnoxious. And often, utter cunts.
She also employs that other lefty tactic. When Murray counters her ignorant and discourteous pronouncements she starts to behave as though she is the injured party, and deserving of sympathy.
The above comment managed to leap into the thread before I had filled in my name etc. The system is all too excitable.
Hor, a fearsome warrior of the Hyborian Age.
Hor, a fearsome warrior of the Hyborian Age.
And a perfect subject for the next prog-rock album.
When Murray counters her ignorant and discourteous pronouncements she starts to behave as though she is the injured party, and deserving of sympathy.
“Doing a Laurie,” I believe it’s called.
Thanks Horace.
she starts to behave as though she is the injured party, and deserving of sympathy
I noticed that too and have observed that behaviour all too often.
having insulted with perfect abandon “she starts to behave as though she is the injured party, and deserving of sympathy.”
= a tactic all too common among the y-chromosome deficient. {ducks}
Hor, a fearsome warrior of the Hyborian Age.
Urg the Sithyann (sic, occasionally with one N) of the Iron Staff.
I’ll just leave this here, I think.
“Douglas Murray and Flavia Kleiner debate “Who gets Europe?””
Well, the competition must have been hopeless. She keeps talking about the rule of law, and I’m not convinced she even knows what it is. “Vacuous” is the word that springs to mind.
She venerates institutions, but doesn’t seem to consider (as Murray pointed out) where they came from, except on the most superficial level. She dismisses fear of Islam, but never once mentions the centuries of Christian tradition across the continent from which the majority of its character is derived, or the greater danger that an ascendant Islam might pose to that tradition than simple atheism or secularism. (In fairness, to his discredit, nor did Murray.)
She gives as an example of “right-wing” attacks on the equality under the law a Swiss proposal to deport criminal aliens. But citizens and non-citizens have never been equal under any country’s law, and for good reason. Citizens have responsibilities to, and a stake in, their country that foreigners do not share: taxation, representation, and, in her own country of Switzerland, military service.
She feigns wonder at attacks on “foreign aid”. But if she wants to donate money to foreign governments or “charities”, nobody will stop her. What people object to is money being sent to foreign governments out of compulsory taxation. Extortion is not a liberal practice.
She strikes me as the sort of person I always consider a victim of the Left: her heart’s in the right place with her professed belief in liberalism, broadly defined. And she’s probably a decent, caring person. But without putting any great thought into her opinions (possibly without having the capability), she’s been seduced by scary tales of “right-wing” bogeymen into standing against the liberal order’s best interests.
I’ll just leave this here, I think.
Is that a common practice over yonder? Finding out through the mail? Seems pretty cold. Perhaps a security thing?
Suppress your excitement, genrlemen.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8800927/Gucci-selling-1-700-tartan-dress-satin-bow-MEN.html
Suppress your excitement, genrlemen.
Pictures (along with receipt) of some non-Gucci affiliated man wearing that or it isn’t real.
That model, indeed anyone of the y-chromosome persuasion who elects to wear that silly outfit has no no masculinity to disrupt.
Also, if you’re wearing jeans under it it’s not a dress, it’s a tunic.
Further also, why do those jeans have grass stains?
If it’s for men why is the model Kathy Griffin?
If it’s for men why is the model Kathy Griffin?
The question answers itself…
genrlmen
Sorry – apparently I was struck with a sudden affliction of Engrish.
Wtp,
My first layoff, in about 1986, was at a then leading star silicon valley company.
Out of the blue one day an unexpected all-hands meeting was called for 13:00. At the meeting we were told a layoff was being announced, and that we should all go back to our offices, not discuss this event, and wait for our managers to come tell us our fates individually. UH-huh. Right.
25% layoff. And we were only being given ANY advance notice because news had leaked to the main local newspaper, which was hitting the street at 16:00.
Could have been worse. At Apple iirc about the same time it went like this: “See the org chart on this whiteboard? If your name is not on it, you don’t work here anymore.”
Douglas Murray and Flavia Kleiner debate “Who gets Europe?”
I think we’ll give that one a post of its own.
Thanks, Horace.
Could have been worse. At Apple iirc about the same time it went like this: “See the org chart on this whiteboard? If your name is not on it, you don’t work here anymore.”
That’s a very effective way to destroy the possibility of employee loyalty.
Pst,
Yup.
A few years later, at a 20 person tech startup, we were acquired by a much bigger company. Almost all of the admin staff were immediately laid off, because those functions could be handled from 3000 km away.
One week later they were being begged to return. Ha Ha.
Most of the rest of the tech staff was gone inside four months.