For The Children, You Say
Matthew Continetti on the competitive pieties of woke schooling:
Parents opted their children out of standardised tests, which they deemed “structurally biased, even racist, because non-white students had the lowest scores.” Without tests, there was no way to measure the progress of the student body. The school, without telling parents, changed all of its bathrooms, “from kindergarten to fifth grade,” from single-sex to gender-neutral. At a Parent–Teacher Association meeting, families split into warring factions. One side was furious at the school for making such an important decision arbitrarily and autonomously. “The parents in the other camp argued that gender labels — and not just on the bathroom doors — led to bullying and that the real problem was the patriarchy. One called for the elimination of urinals.”
Mr Continetti is referring to this first-hand tale of bewilderment and woe, in which there’s much to widen the eyes. Regarding the toilet drama mentioned above, this bears quoting:
The school didn’t inform parents of this sudden end to an age-old custom, as if there were nothing to discuss. Parents only heard about it when children started arriving home desperate to get to the bathroom after holding it in all day. Girls told their parents mortifying stories of having a boy kick open their stall door. Boys described being afraid to use the urinals. Our son reported that his classmates, without any collective decision, had simply gone back to the old system, regardless of the new signage: Boys were using the former boys’ rooms, girls the former girls’ rooms… As children, they didn’t think to challenge the new adult rules, the new adult ideas of justice. Instead, they found a way around this difficulty that the grown-ups had introduced into their lives. It was a quiet plea to be left alone.
Update, via the comments:
We’ve been here before, of course:
Parents only discovered the campaign – which asserts that white pupils are complicit in an “invisible system of privilege” – when their children began complaining about it.
Also, open thread.
without telling parents,
Naturally.
Naturally.
Again, it’s the casual, habitual arrogance.
If, incidentally, they want children to have the vote from any age then why not ask them?
Somewhat related:
Douglas Murray on the deranging effects of wokeness.
The school didn’t inform parents of this sudden end to an age-old custom, as if there were nothing to discuss
So they acted as Progressives, like the author of the piece, have done to everyone else for the past two decades.
Funny how “age-old customs” become important again when it suits you, eh?
Girls told their parents mortifying stories of having a boy kick open their stall door. Boys described being afraid to use the urinals.
This is head\desk stuff. I’ve written and deleted a paragraph that even I feel went too far, and I consider myself fairly reactionary about this kind of thing.
Stick a fork in folks, we’re done I think.
It was a quiet plea to be left alone.
The proper response can be found in the words of that great philosopher Mike Tyson, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” Indeed Mike, indeed. Fewer quiet pleas and more punched faces and this stuff will dry up and blow away.
Thanks for the Douglas Murray video, David. Very apt.
Deirdre McCloskey on slavery and wealth.
New Yorkers have twice elected a Marxist mayor whose signature “applause” line is:
“There’s plenty of money in the world; it’s just in the wrong hands.”
So with this situation and so many others, New Yorkers are merely getting what they voted for, good and hard.
without telling parents,
We’ve been here before, of course:
In a saner world, these creatures would be chased out of town.
I don’t know where Packer leaves off with the humblebragging and imaginative flourishes. His daughter so immersed in the Broadway Hamilton that she’s surprised to find out that the founding fathers were white; the son a member of a multiracial troupe of cheeky ragamuffins, so much more perky and relatable than those snobbish private school WASPs.
My wife and I are products of public schools
He’s not the product of public schools. He’s the son of a Stanford professor, so his intellectual talent was inherited and cultivated at home by access to books and discussion and role models. How representative are the kinds of public schools that college professors send their children to? And Packer was born in 1960, so there’s a good chance that his family’s egalitarian principles weren’t put to the test by California’s serious attempt to implement busing in the late 1970’s.
There’s nothing novel or appealing about a radical chic intellectual snob hypocrite admitting that he is what he is. It’s like a conversation from Annie Hall. Will the kids turn out alright? I don’t care, not that I hold it against them that they’re the children of their father.
What I do find interesting is the power that teachers and school administrators have even over upper class Manhattanite parents. Packer is a member of an intellectual elite, a person of authority and status and life experience. He should be able to tell his daughter’s grade school teachers that yes his wants her to be informed about how reading, writing and arithmetic are racist but by the way he also wants her to be taught the 3R’s.
His dad the professor wouldn’t have let himself be bullied by some mere vice principal. But now it seems that public school officials are taking full advantage of the power they have, or are perceived by parents to have, over the life outcomes of upper middle class children. A bad report, an assignment to a more vibrant high school, and a fall to the level of the proles – “far below they see a dim world of processed food, obesity, divorce, addiction, online-education scams, stagnant wages, outsourcing, rising morbidity rates”.
But now it seems that public school officials are taking full advantage of the power they have, or are perceived by parents to have, over the life outcomes of upper middle class children. A bad report, an assignment to a more vibrant high school, and a fall to the level of the proles.
Packer would have been an enthusiastic supporter of this power.
“The school didn’t inform parents of this sudden end to an age-old custom, as if there were nothing to discuss”
Which would have been much less likely to happen if the parents had been customers instead of supplicants. Even if the school had, like certain other businesses we could mention, decided to appeal to the “woke” market, the management would have told people.
I know education is one field where even conservatives and some libertarians are prepared to concede state provision, but it’s way, way too important to leave to the government. Tax-funded assistance to pay for it up to a certain level, maybe, but there has to be a free market.
“As children, they didn’t think to challenge the new adult rules, the new adult ideas of justice. Instead, they found a way around this difficulty that the grown-ups had introduced into their lives.”
Damn kids, thinking for themselves. They’ll have to have that taught out of ’em.
My wife and I are products of public schools. Whatever torments they inflicted on our younger selves, we believed in them.
Packer is a 1978 graduate of Gunn High School in Palo Alto, a veritable blackboard jungle where the children of Stanford professors torment the children of electronic engineers with calculus questions.
The school is currently 45% Asian, 38% white, and 1% black. It was probably blonder, more like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, more characterized by James Spader or Sean Penn types, when Packer was there. And the percentage of blacks was probably a number less than 1.
From the bubble of Palo Alto to the bubble of Manhattan, Packer is surely qualified to teach the rest of us about his principled belief in public schools in all their diversity and vibrancy.
”without telling parents”
They are entitled to impose their wishes upon the parents and children because of “academic freedom”…at least that is what one leftist schoolteacher told me.
a veritable blackboard jungle where the children of Stanford professors torment the children of electronic engineers with calculus questions.
Heh.
From The Atlantic link
But there was something else—another claim on us. The current phrase for it is social justice. I’d rather use the word democracy, because it conveys the idea of equality and the need for a common life among citizens.
Well, I cannot think of something further away from democracy than social justice, especially as it is practiced in the article.
The whole sentence is so dumb, I wonder if he really read it back after typing it out. I feel it got nodded through as a stream of warm sounding, right thinking pablum. Kind of like a woke ‘Um’ or ‘Errrr’ whilst he gathers his actual thoughts.
I cannot think of something further away from democracy than social justice, especially as it is practiced in the article.
And distant from justice.
Douglas Murray on the deranging effects of wokeness.
Evergreen Dalrymple:
New Yorkers have twice elected a Marxist mayor whose signature “applause” line is “There’s plenty of money in the world; it’s just in the wrong hands.” So with this situation and so many others, New Yorkers are merely getting what they voted for, good and hard.
Evergreen Rorschach:
Meanwhile, in the Guardian.
Desirable ladies.
“Well, I cannot think of something further away from democracy than social justice, especially as it is practiced in the article.”
My own take bears repeating, I think: Justice, unqualified, holds you responsible for your actions. “Social justice” holds you responsible for the actions of others, whom you may never have met and could be long dead, regardless of your own. It’s the opposite of justice.
Democracy? Maybe. Depends what you mean by it. I’m similarly suspicious of that, or at least of those who fetishize electoral (or any kind of) majoritarianism and call it “democracy”. If democracy is rule by the people, why are its worshippers never happy to leave the people alone to rule themselves? Even Keynes, hardly a free-market fundamentalist, said that the most powerful vote you can give anyone is a Pound in his pocket.
“The parents in the other camp argued that gender labels — and not just on the bathroom doors — led to bullying and that the real problem was the patriarchy. One called for the elimination of urinals.”
“Patriarchy”. Give me strength. If there were an actual patriarchy in place this silly crap wouldn’t be going on. Female emancipation was a mistake.
Female emancipation was a mistake.
Leftist emancipation was a mistake.
Desirable ladies.
Fashionable evil.
Female emancipation was a mistake.
Think about it. Even the most extreme opponents of female emancipation, barely 100 years ago, would not have had the nerve to predict what is going on today as one of the consequences. And I’m sure those opponents were mocked and ridiculed enough for the milder things they did say. Hmmm…let’s see what I can find from the opposition back then…
Well, this is going to take more time than I thought but here’s a current timeslice from Wiki on the subject. I bolded some parts I found interesting. Not that I agree 100% with all of the bolded parts, some even the opposite, but…well, like I said…interesting.
Democracy is 50.1% of the population getting up in the morning and then pissing in the cornflakes of the other 49.9%
I’m not sure why George Packer is so worked up about his kids’ schooling. Those kids have parents who are active and involved in their lives, and invested in their success, so they’re all but guaranteed to be successful regardless of their school. Throw in Packer’s reputation and status among his peers, and the kids are pretty much guaranteed to have an open door into whatever career they choose.
Honestly, if he was really worried about his kids, he’d simply move away from the Rotten Apple and raise his kids someplace with trees and Little League and decent schools. But then he’d miss out on the cocktail parties and gallery openings, so I suppose that’s a non-starter.
Also, as a rule, those who wring their hands over the “achievement gap” should show a willingness to come down hard on every little urchin who torments has classmates for the crime of “acting white.” If you lack the spine to follow through on the latter, I’m not inclined to take you seriously about the former.
Female emancipation was a mistake.
I know and have known an awful lot of male idiot leftists.
unpatriotic German sympathizers.
Sabotage by German immigrants and imperial German agents was frequent.
pst314, I might have used a pinch too much hyperbole with my female emancipation remark.
I might have used a pinch too much hyperbole with my female emancipation remark.
Oh, sure. Leave me hanging. I’ll remember this.
But seriously, this is really just a reflection as to how the Founders and similar men of their day felt about democracy in general. Universal suffrage was known to have these flaws. Yet men voted for it. At least it didn’t originate in the courts. Yet at the same time, government must submit to the will of the governed in some manner. There must be some sort of checks on power without submitting to mob (clown) rule.
Only a pinch, Monty. It does seem as if women are a bit more inclined towards totalitarian socialist systems.
“What are witnessing is not the imminent extinction of the planet. It is the extinction of reason.“
^^^oops…wrong thread.
“What are witnessing is not the imminent extinction of the planet. It is the extinction of reason.”
Posted by: Darleen | September 20, 2019 at 16:37
^^^oops…wrong thread.
Posted by: Darleen | September 20, 2019 at 16:39
Is it? I thought it fit quite nicely.