Unsafe To Share
Further to the eye-widening James Damore saga of August last year, an update of possible interest:
James Damore, the Google engineer who was fired after arguing that the gender gap in tech may be partially explained by sex differences among men and women, just filed a class-action lawsuit against Google in the Santa Clara, Calif., Superior Court. Damore came to fame after he wrote the now-infamous “Google manifesto,” where he pointed out that “differences in distributions of traits between men and women may in part explain why we don’t have 50% representation of women in tech.” Filed Monday morning, the class-action lawsuit argues that Google discriminates against white conservative men on the basis of their “male gender” and “Caucasian race,” further alleging that there is “open hostility for conservative thought” in the Google workplace…
The lawsuit also alleges that Google employees were awarded bonuses for arguing against Damore’s views. In one example of this, a female employee was awarded a bonus for speaking out against the “wretched hive of scum and villainy” allegedly represented by Damore’s memo. Email excerpts sent among Google employees after Damore’s memo went public also illustrated pervasive hostility towards conservatives. “I intend to silence these views; they are violently offensive,” wrote senior engineer Colm Buckley in a message to his co-workers. He also wrote to co-workers that there are certain political views “which I do not want people to feel safe to share.”
The details of the lawsuit can be read here and some of the allegations are worth perusing. For instance, those regarding the widespread and enthusiastic use of “shitlists” to exclude and punish employees deemed insufficiently enthused by identity politics; and the apparent indifference of Google’s managers and HR department to harassing, demeaning or racial rhetoric when the targets of such language were white. A phenomenon illustrated by a manager, Chris Busselle, urging white employees – described as “schmucky” and “cheesy” on account of their pallor – to decline invitations to attend conferences; and by another manager, Liz Fong-Jones, who openly professed, in writing, that she “could care less about being unfair to white men.” A view she subsequently described as “absolutely reasonable.”
Update:
For those so inclined, and via Chris, there’s a crowdfunding option to help out with legal expenses.
it’s not an accident or serendipity that the corporate culture at these places so resembles the Clown Quarter of Academia. It’s by design.
And behold the fruit.
. . . while mass immigration is being used as a tool to destroy white societies.
Um, hang on . . . Scuzzi?!?!?!?
Sooo, immigration does indeed occur, where in a number of instances, a large bunch of people leave area A to go to area B, where rather a number of reasons could cause this.
So, a bit back we did rather confirm that immigration does tend to be a very good practice, where the established history shows a lot of benefits to the nation that the immigrants go to.
Now, of the claim of being used as a tool, are you actually trying to attempt to claim that someone has managed to trigger at least one, and possibly more, instances of mass movement of people for the purpose of those people going to a specific other location?
There certainly are many instances of someone announcing You lot, get the hell out of here, Now but that is an order to leave. There are situations such as the creations of America and Israel, where the destination is announce and arranged, along with general announcement of Y’all come and play.
So either you rather misphrased, or really can actually cite deliberate targeted immigration, or, the correct statement is that there are zero instances of mass immigration is being used as a tool . . .
Well, there was a rather large amount of immigration of Germans to various locations in Europe a couple of times last century.
They didn’t integrate well with the local populations.
Hal, maybe you are not aware of this, but leftists in America and the UK have admitted and even boasted that they used and intended to use immigration to radically “transform” the native society into one more to their liking.
Furthermore, immigration in and of itself is not good: It all depends on who the immigrants are. Is their culture compatible? Do they want to assimilate? Or do they hold views incompatible with and even hostile to the host culture? Consider, for example, Sweden, where rape was extremely rare until the arrival of huge numbers of Muslims. Similarly, life for gays in the Netherlands was pretty darn good, until Muslims started threatening and assaulting them.
There is a belief that all immigration is beneficial to the receiving country, and this is likely true of immigration targeting educated persons with needed skills. Tack on a small allowance for humanitarian reasons and the policy is beneficial to all concerned.
Unfettered immigration of persons with significant skill shortages and incompatible cultural differences, as seen in Germany and other parts of Europe in recent years, has only provided an increased welfare burden. I doubt that this could be seen as a positive outcome.
Here in Australia, we find that for some groups of ‘refugees’, employment of migrants remains at consistently low levels, even after 5 years. This merely confirms to many that our guilt-derived generosity is being taken advantage of.
In all instances of undocumented arrivals, here and overseas, the SJW’s and Leftists are the most vocal in telling us that taking in these ‘oppressed’ and ‘persecuted’ groups fleeing (insert adverse condition here) is a wonderful thing and we should welcome more with open arms into our tolerant and generous societies. It’s our national and social responsibility, after all. As long as they aren’t located anywhere near them, of course.
I sincerley doubt this is done with malicious intent, but it is still virtue signalling suicide all the same.
Example:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
“The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”, according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.”
Well, there was a rather large amount of immigration of Germans to various locations in Europe a couple of times last century.
Uh, huh, noting of course that a bog standard war is not what’s being discussed . . .
leftists in America and the UK have admitted and even boasted that they used and intended to . . .
Uh, huh^2, with, as rather well noted, the ongoing track record of success for anything “intended” by “leftists” . . .
So the question stands, and we’re still waiting for an actual, viable instance of . . . while mass immigration is being used as a tool to destroy white societies. . . . of whatever exactly that was actually supposed to be.
It all depends on who the immigrants are. Is their culture compatible? Do they want to assimilate? Or do they hold views incompatible with and even hostile to the host culture?
Uh huh^3, all being issues of which individual immigrant are we talking about here, which has also been discussed, noting the rather easy distinction between the large number of actual immigrants and the quite smaller number of mere criminals, whether the local variety of criminal, or imported . . .
As was already noted upthread . . .
“The people” . . . “the immigrants” . . . “the poor” . . . “the disadvantaged” . . . all the same . . .
Uh, huh^2, with, as rather well noted, the ongoing track record of success for anything “intended” by “leftists” . . .
I’d say the left has been rather successful in its efforts. Both America and Britain now have elected officials who are radical Muslims, yes? Large numbers of immigrants have changed the voting demographics. And, of course, they have swelled the welfare rolls which is a good thing according to Cloward-Piven. Since the left views white Europeans as suspect at best and likely evil, an immigration program which relegates them to minority status is a Good Thing–and indeed the left has been crowing that in recent years.
Finally, the 21st Century delivers…
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/with-ingestible-pill-you-can-track-fart-development-in-real-time-on-your-phone/
Test to see if I can post using Chrome.
Huh. Well, either Firefox is wobbly or else I might be blocked. Haven’t had trouble with Firefox up until now. If I’m blocked, David, I’ll stay blocked and not bother you any more. If not, I’ll simply have to figure out what’s wrong with Firefox.
I really don’t think there’s any question that large numbers of immigrants from places which have no history of pluralist, liberal democracy, have no desire to obtain same, and have no discernible skill-set to offer their hosts are quickly remaking–for the worse–many Western societies (note, I didn’t say “white.”). The examples have been stated above. I seem to have read that California’s welfare rolls and Medicare expenditures are at the breaking point because of illegal immigrants, though I don’t have a cite immediately at hand.
The question becomes, why is this allowed, then? Who benefits, other than the immigrants who get to leave Turdistan and get a much cushier life at someone else’s expense? This is one answer. Or, no doubt there are other Leftists who believe the West needs to be destroyed as penance for some non-specified colonialist sins of our forefathers. Our host has documented such sentiments on these pages.
I seem to have read that California’s welfare rolls and Medicare expenditures are at the breaking point because of illegal immigrants, though I don’t have a cite immediately at hand.
I don’t have a link handy, but Victor Davis Hanson has been writing about this for years. (He notes that California even suffers from medical welfare tourism, wherein Mexicans in need of medical treatment come to California hospitals which by law must treat everyone, even illegal immigrants.) City Journal may have some articles on this, too.
there are zero instances of mass immigration is being used as a tool
Wrong. During the Great Irish Famine, the British government explicitly encouraged mass immigration of Irish refugees to Quebec in order to overwhelm and marginalize the existing French population.
How about: To be harassed and bullied by leftists is to be “touched by his googley appendage”.
It could catch on.
I don’t have a link handy, but Victor Davis Hanson has been writing about this for years.
Speaking of NR guys, and in an awkward segue, I note that David French has a pretty good article on the Damore lawsuit up today. Of interest to me was the mention of federal law (i.e., the Civil Rights Act 1964, I presume, and at least) which has only been brought up dismissively in other articles I’ve read (one writer claiming white men are “simply not a protected class”). I’m not sure how this might work out, but if the lawsuit somehow fails in California perhaps it might be pursued in the federal courts? (I appreciate that wouldn’t make sense now, since California laws are more advantageous for this lawsuit.)
On a related point, does anyone here know how jurisdiction might work if a lot of Googlers come forward from outside California (noting paras. 15-16 of the complaint)? Might separate federal proceedings be necessary for some of these potential complainants, or could they be folded in because so much of the business is run in Mountain View? Seems dubious to me.
@Ian
If the court certifies the class, then Google and the plaintiffs will try to assemble a list of potential claimants. It might include anyone whose ever applied for a job or sent a resume. Those people would receive written notice of the suit with instructions about submitting a claim. They can do that and receive a portion of any award or settlement in California and be bound by same or opt out of the class action if they wish to do something themselves in a locale which would have jurisdiction over the offense, i.e. where the tort occurred, e.g. a university campus where an interview was conducted.
@R. Sherman
Thanks for the clarification. Given that Google has roughly 50,000 employees in the US, that’s a huge base for potential claimants.
… and not counting everyone who formerly worked for Google or who applied for a job there.
there are zero instances of mass immigration is being used as a tool
Wrong. During the Great Irish Famine, the British government explicitly encouraged mass immigration of Irish refugees to Quebec in order to overwhelm and marginalize the existing French population.
Interesting. Of course, that too is not what’s being discussed.—Albeit just in case, that comment was while mass, not white mass.
Targeting white societies . . . So sending the white Irish off the overwhelm the white French doesn’t count.—and we’re fairly certain that the Irish are white.
. . . unless you’re attempting an awfully interesting interpretation of Black Irish.
Prediction: Google’s legal team will be all-white.
So if all those German troops had merely left their weapons behind, all would have been hunky-dory? It’s a bit of a shame that the Germans never thought of doing that.
I could also trot out what happened to the Western Roman Empire with barbarian auxiliaries, but I’m sure that your Google-fu is capable of finding that out with no help from me. Quite a few native American tribes might have some thoughts about that as well; in fact, importing large numbers of people from incompatible cultures has been proven to be a disaster in history so often that only a “conservative” in Berkeley would think otherwise.
A related story.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/09/googles-new-fact-check-feature-almost-exclusively-targets-conservative-sites/
If I’m blocked, David, I’ll stay blocked and not bother you any more. If not, I’ll simply have to figure out what’s wrong with Firefox.
You’re definitely not blocked, Monty. You’d have to set fire to the drapes for something like that. Whatever the issue is, it’s not my doing. I recall others had some problems with Firefox and commenting. Have you cleared the cache?
Mr Damore is interviewed by Tucker Carlson.
Another point worth touching on is the glib dismissal of claims of discrimination when the complainant is white or male, or conservative or whatever, even when the evidence is quite compelling, as in Damore’s case. Browsing leftist websites, I’ve seen countless comments sneering at the very idea that anyone white or male could ever be treated unfairly in the name of “diversity” or “social justice.” Apparently, it’s unthinkable.
But I suppose this is what happens when tens of thousands of students have been encouraged to default to a non-reciprocal worldview, in which Designated Victim Groups are always and forever victimised and put-upon, by dint of mere existence, supposedly by Designated Oppressor Groups, i.e., white males, and are always and forever entitled to unilateral exemptions, double standards and special indulgences, regardless of the insult and disfavour experienced by others. For those doing the sneering, the idea of reciprocal standards – principles and mutual courtesies – seems anathema, or at least entirely alien.
[ Edited. ]
Re my previous comment, today’s word is journalism.
I wonder if the reporter, Katie Shepherd, has actually read Mr Damore’s memo. If so, she hides it well.
Darleen Click has some thoughts.
Another point worth touching on is the glib dismissal of claims of discrimination when the complainant is white or male…
Thanks to all those years of battlefield prep, wherein words like “racism” and “discrimination” were redefined to require a “power” component. Thus, because Damore is white & male, he is part of some nebulous power structure which makes it impossible for him to be discriminated against, by definition. His only role is to do sacrificial penance for the sins of the rest of us.
Too good not to swipe, really.
Monty Well, either Firefox is wobbly or else I might be blocked.
David Have you cleared the cache?
Monty, In case you have not seen my comment in an earlier thread: Firefox add-ones such as NoScript can be a problem, largely because Firefox and NoScript have been undergone a major rewrite.
So if all those German troops had merely left their weapons behind, all would have been hunky-dory? It’s a bit of a shame that the Germans never thought of doing that.
Your sarcasm is on target. For just a few examples, it is easy to find Muslims and Mexicans who openly say that they are using immigration to conquer hated others.
“the correct statement is that there are zero instances of mass immigration is being used as a tool . . .”
MEChA is quite open about wanting to use immigration as a tool of conquest.
Browsing leftist websites, I’ve seen countless comments sneering at the very idea that anyone white or male could ever be treated unfairly in the name of “diversity” or “social justice.”
Matthew Walther, one of the lowest-watt models on display at The Week’s Dim Bulb Emporium, manages to accuse Damore of “#GamerGate online racist misogyny-bro English”. It’s like they reach into a lottery ball spinner filled with left-wing epithets when they need to meet a word count.
For just a few examples, it is easy to find Muslims and Mexicans who openly say that they are using immigration to conquer hated others.
La Raza (which recently changed its name to the more “friendly” UnidosUS), and the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA) and the whole “Reconquista” of “Aztlan” business, for instance.
This bit always cracks me up, “…and not to the foreign Europeans…”. This is said by a “Chicano”, which identity group wouldn’t exist with out those damn Spanish who, last time I looked, were European, and the “civilizers” of the human sacrificing stone agers.
Also note that they stole Mussolini’s quote and changed “state” to “race”, so you have a pretty good idea where these clowns are coming from.
This is said by a “Chicano”, which identity group wouldn’t exist with out those damn Spanish who, last time I looked, were European, and the “civilizers” of the human sacrificing stone agers.
What’s interesting is that the thing which in many ways constitutes the “unifier” of Mexican-ness is the Virgin of Guadalupe. She appears as a mestiza to Juan Diego, an indigenous person, in 1531, thereby demonstrating the unity of Spanish and native peoples in a unique Mexican identity. As you put it, Chicano identity necessitates acknowledging the Spanish colonizers. It cannot exist without the Spanish predicate.
Thank you, David. I couldn’t stand it if I’d made myself unwelcome, somehow. The disgrace–what would I tell Mother?
pst314, I hadn’t seen the comment, but thank you for the tip. A brief skimming of Mozilla’s Help page indicates that Firefox Quantum, which I innocently installed, seems to disable several add-ons without the courtesy of informing users, NoScript being very prominent amongst these. I’ll have to keep digging.
For now I can post using Chrome, which I don’t very much like because I don’t have much use for Google, which is funny given the subject of this post. Brave might do the trick, I’ll try that next.
Too good not to swipe, really.
What was the source? Was it one we are likely to find fun or useful?
@Monty
I’ve been using Brave for awhile now, along with DuckDuckGo as a search engine, and have experienced few problems. The only glitch is with certain news/sports sites with embedded videos which won’t initiate. It’s not all sites by any means and it’s not too bothersome. If I really want to see something, I can switch briefly to Chrome, but it’s a rare occurrence.
“Of course, that too is not what’s being discussed”
I wouldn’t recommend being too restrictive on this topic, since there are various sorts of groups with such intentions—racial, ethnic, religious, political, etc.
You’d have to set fire to the drapes for something like that.
For the record, I was on vacation when that happened.
OT, but every day needs some Clown Quarter, there is woke, and Heavy Duty Super Extra WOKE!™.
Monty: the latest NoScript does work with Firefox Quantum, although:
1. The user interface is different and there is not yet full documentation online.
2. Sometimes it seems to lock up the loading of web pages, and you have to (maybe) disable and reenable NoScript and then stop and restart Firefox. I should check for updates to both products, and check the user forum.
Test using Brave. Good. I’d prefer not to use Google Chrome, reading some of those internal emails from the Damore case gives one the feeling of talking to someone who doesn’t look you in the eye, but instead stares at your left ear.
No joy, clearing the Firefox cache.
The problem with Google as a blatantly obnoxious company, really, is that technically their products are still pretty damn good. They’ve always valued interoperability and embraced “open” standards like VP8, iCalendar, HTML5, etc., rather than taking the Apple or Microsoft byways. I liked their attempt to subvert Facebook and create an open platform. This makes it really difficult for me to want to stop using their products, because even though stuff like ProtonMail is fine, I haven’t found a solution to the problem of managing email accounts on multiple domains and syncing contact books, diaries and file storage in a simple and straightforward way on a bunch of different kit without using Google. I know this came up on the earlier James Damore mega-thread, but maybe some others here can offer suggestions. Google is just so damn convenient… the bastards!
@Farnsworth
Missing from the excerpt in your second link is the word, “psychotic.”
Just sayin’.
What was the source?
I found it here.
Thanks for the help, Pst314, now I know which direction to go. That webpage thing might be the problem; The “Post” and “Preview” buttons are dead in Firefox, and also the Windows Edge browser. Vielen Danke.
All of that.
Thanks for the help, Pst314, now I know which direction to go.
Assuming that I know where I’m going. 🙂
Thank you David.