I Question The Causality
Lifted from the comments, a teacher tells us things:
Oh, honey. No. https://t.co/cPpIjk02Rv
— Overeducated Gibbon (@MostlyMonkey) June 11, 2025
A thread ensues, from which:
Is it enough to just own the books? Researchers aren’t yet sure.
Consider this an open thread. Share ye links and bicker.
Asked again.
It should be asked every day.
One that should be put to the test forthwith.
“Turnabout is fair play.”
History has done no such thing. ‘Communist’ isn’t a term of disparagement like, say, ‘fascist’. The multitudinous labels are astro-turfing – giving the appearance of greater numbers and wider support than exists.
I grew up with lots of books in the house, and not just parents who read but who never restricted my reading of the books on the shelf that they read. Dad also started me reading newspapers when I was 10.
Oh wait, there was only one book my mom held back on … a friend of hers gave her Valley of The Dolls and she just didn’t want her 13 y/o daughter (me) reading it. When I did finally read it years later, I laughed and think it was less about the sex/drugs than it was a pretty trashy novel and she was a tad embarrassed to have it around.
Not to say that trashy novels don’t have their place!
Bookmark in honor of Father’s day this Sunday:
(Dad, circa 1952)
So did you try erotic yoga?
What is the trashy novel with the trashiest title? Preferably amusingly so.
To hell with “rehabilitation”. Think of the future crimes that were prevented.
It shouldn’t be nine years. It should be nine minutes dangling at the end of a rope.
Every week or two my sibs and friends went to the library and brought home as many books as we could carry. Picture books, chapter books, everything.
We were voracious.
And we did well in school. And we were the poorest homes in the neighborhood.
When I was bored I’d grab a volume and page through it. Didn’t read a lot but studied the maps and the pictures.
Faves were in volume F for fish where they had drawings of the deep-see fish with horrible fangs.
I tried the random page thing with Wikipedia for the same effect, but it wasn’t as fun.
The supermarket where mom did her shopping offered the Funk & Wagnalls Encyclopedia in some sort of strange deal that I never understood. It must have gone on for a long time because we ended up with the full set. It’s the only thing that explains how I got the Laugh-in joke “Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls.”
They were about the size of a regular book with a cream coloured cover and one black and one red flash on the spine. I actually used them extensively for school projects.
That was the look. I have several photos of dad and uncles similarly attired.
Anything written by Jackie Collins.
We must be of an age – we also had the full set, and they came from (IIRC) Safeway. Probably 25 weeks, and maybe 25 months, of faithful shopping. I remember them up on the shelves that I installed in my bedroom – so I must’ve been at least a young teenager at the time. Before that, a friend’s father was selling World Book (he was a teacher – maybe a side hustle – no idea) and I was enormously jealous that he had the full WB set, plus the annual updates. WB had much higher production values – yoiu could actually browse a WB – Funk & Wagnalls was strictly for research / homework!
For me, it was the friend who had the full Encyclopedia Britannica set.
My mom’s supermarket was Steinberg’s/Miracle Food Mart. I can’t remember who the owner was when she got the Funk & Wagnalls.
Of course it isn’t enough just to own the books! What sorcery is this? Do they think that knowlege will seep in by osmosis?
CCscientist: “Well, when my kids were little their appetite for us reading to them was prodigious, so every week we brought home a stack of books from the library. You know, that place full of books that you can borrow for free.“
Ah, the public library. Such a great boon to society, which is why the woke are so keen to destroy it with nonsense like ‘Drag Queen Story Hour….
Absolutely. As one reply puts it,
See also, once again, this vividly dumb bint. Note the eerily similar mental trajectory. The familiar contortions.
As I said in reply,
Or this, from Our Betters at the Observer.
In which mob looting and small-business retailers being punched, sexually assaulted and threatened with machetes is dismissed with some amusement as mere “pilfering, purloining, filching, snaffling,” and “relatively trivial.” Because the looting and violation is happening to someone else.
And which prompted an obvious question:
Different frock, same dance.
Or any of the hundred-plus variations we must’ve seen here over the years.
Despite my efforts to repress the implications of the book being in our house, I can still recall the hand-drawn illustrations.
I like to think it was an unwanted gift. Or bought by mistake.
That’s the clue.
Well, the implied disdain for those who object to others being robbed or violated is something of a tell. As is the implication that objecting to one’s neighbours being robbed or assaulted, or to them finding their homes and businesses ablaze, could only be a result of insufficient sophistication. As defined by Our Betters. (Again, see links above.)
And it’s important to remember that this isn’t some implausible intellectual error, repeated over and over again. One in which reciprocation – that basic moral consideration – not only plays no part but is pointedly disdained as “respectability politics,” or some other wafty bollocks.
The obviousness of the contrivance, its perversity – and the obviousness of the numerous real-world rebuttals – is such that a practised dishonesty is required. Quite a lot of pretending and contorted rationalisation. Say, trying not to acknowledge the kind of world that would be the result of their enacted fantasies.
It’s not some miscalculation, some random lapse, to which any of us might succumb. It resists repeated correction. It’s a psychological position. The people mouthing these things, smugly, and writing them down so their peers can see, very often find such scenarios titillating. It’s all just so amusing. All that fire and horror and loss of livelihood.
It tells us quite a bit about who they are. They’re not sophisticated or radical, much as they might wish it.
They’re just broken, juvenile and disgusting.
Ah, the public library.
I have a library card. Currently reading Dog Sense. Knox County has a very good library.
My fifth grade teacher was absolutely useless. The general unspoken rule in the class was so long as we didn’t bother him so he could read his newspaper, drink his coffee, and smoke his cigarettes, he wouldn’t bother us. I sat next to a bookshelf containing the 1957 WBE so that was my education for a year. When I finally got one of my own in 1973 it was interesting what had changed and what remained as settled knowledge or whatever. I can’t imagine what that would be like if encyclopedias were still a thing between a 16 year period like say 2007 and 2023.
No, but they are voluminous and loud. And that’s ultimately what really matters. Logic and reason are just knives at a gunfight.
Band Names:
Moving Blob
Erotic Yoga
Funk and Wagnalls (company defunct as of 2009, so it may be available…)
Somewhat true, but the purpose of those multitudinous labels is to confuse and deceive all who are not communists, because those are people who would be repelled by anyone proclaiming themselves to be communist.
from dicentra:
the proper attitude towards leftists:
Is this too harsh for David’s genteel establishment?
(Seen in one of Sarah Hoyt’s meme collections.)
Also Time Life Books: various series on history, science, technology, etc. Great for kids to read cover-to-cover or just browse at random.
Much as they think it will be magically acquired by moving ghetto families to middle class neighborhoods.
I can’t help you there. All we had in the house was a lingerie catalogue. The only letters I knew growing up were A to E. And occasionally an F.
More seriously though: I grew up on a council estate, we had hardly any money, yet we still managed to have plenty of books around. There’s no excuse for having a bookless house nowadays. The parents that don’t just don’t care.
[ Enhances store-bought spicy pizza with extra chillies, grated cheese. ]
Spicy, my arse.
There were two magazines that my public school library would bring in that were very popular and had kids lined up to read. One was Boy’s Life and the other was Beano.
I read that as “Labial Symmetry”
[ Reports for regrooving ]
Again, it’s the teacher’s pinhead dance – of fretting over whether a home has shelves with 200 books or 350, or some arbitrary number in between, as if this were the key thing. And other, more statusful pinheads ask, seemingly in all seriousness, whether or not you actually have to read the books to benefit from their existence, not just walk past them. All while carefully avoiding other, perhaps more obvious variables.
Presumably, these people imagine that the parents’ intelligence – one expression of which might, for instance, be having large collections of books around – can have nothing whatsoever to do with the academic performance of their children. Because that would be a wicked idea, with all sorts of inegalitarian implications.
Not entirely unrelated:
Note the conceit – the unchallenged conceit – that reading to one’s children, thereby encouraging them to read, is “unfairly disadvantaging other people’s children.”
Under control.
Mostly peaceful.
Fun times.
TMI
times.
Put sound up for this one, it’s a good slap…
Damn…had to re-login yet again…though I just had to do so on insty as well. Anyhoo…
Another one that I find interesting…As soon as I was old enough to read for myself, having stories read to me was about as likely as being carried everywhere. Just didn’t happen. Unless Aunt Minnie came over. She was a sucker for that. Though I have been told that not having books read to me when I already knew how to read was somehow depriving me. I learned this from making an offhand comment when discussing The Princess Bride movie. With smart people. It’s a wonder that I was even able to hold a conversation with them.
Yes, you are right.
[ponders appropriate punishment… ah yes, perhaps this]
Heh. That’s actually a pretty apt description of dealing with leftists.
I initially had a brain fart about that myself. Though I knew for certain that someone drownded while drunk in the 80’s. I think it’s because Brian Wilson was the Wilson who mostly led the band, wrote and was credited with most of the songs. Dennis was the drummer, and…well…drummers, amiright?
[ Wheels out obligatory drummer joke. ]
“What’s the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?”
“You only have to punch the instructions into a drum machine once.”
[ Wraps joke in tissue paper, puts back into storage. ]
Album name
Republicans are trying to take food away from her.
Understandably.