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Great debate guys.
Well, quite. It reminded me of this rather telling farce, in which a room full of insufferable leftist poseurs claim to have had a “very good discussion.” And yet, if you can endure the bone-aching tedium of it, no discussion or debate of any kind actually occurs. No-one challenges anything, anything at all, said by anyone else. It’s just a series of isolated, ludicrous, self-flattering pronouncements. It’s almost as if the participants tacitly understood that to question even the most obvious factual errors could result in their own assertions being open to testing. And so, they don’t.
Being, as they are, so radical and fearless – “an insurgent movement.”

And yet, if you can endure the bone-aching tedium of it, no discussion or debate of any kind actually occurs.
They don’t want to listen to each other. Who would?

public service announcement.
Wherefore art thou grammatical logic? Shouldn’t the illustration for “their” be Siamese twins?

On the “my body my choice” hysteria, they gloss over the obvious problem that one must decide on some point at which abortion is no longer permitted or else it becomes ok to kill viable, conscious babies. 3, 4, 5, 7 weeks? 9 months? After delivery? In the past, people did indeed just dump unwanted babies since they lacked the ability to abort. Is that where they want to go? So some decision is necessary and it is not black-or-white (can I say that?).
The student debate and expulsion thing: if you never let children wrestle or encounter physical hardship, always praise them, and everyone gets an award, this is where you end up. It is not just that we have extended adolescence, we have extended infancy into their 20s.

“infancy into their 20s.”
So twenty somethings could legally be aborted?
Hmmm. Double Hmmm.

…or else it becomes ok to kill viable, conscious babies. 3, 4, 5, 7 weeks? 9 months? After delivery?
Califonia AB 2223:

SECTION 1. The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(a) Reproductive justice is a framework created by Black women in 1994 to address the intersectional and multifactored issues that women of color and their families face in society.
(b) Reproductive justice is the human right to control our bodies, sexuality, gender, work, and reproduction. That right can only be achieved when all people, particularly women and girls, have the complete economic, social, and political power and resources to make healthy decisions about their bodies, families, and communities in all areas of their lives. At the core of reproductive justice is the belief in the right to bodily autonomy, the right to have children, the right to not have children, and the right to parent the children we have with dignity and respect in safe and sustainable communities.
(c) A critical part of realizing reproductive justice for people in California is clarifying that there shall be no civil and criminal penalties for people’s actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcomes.

OK, we got the racist angle out of the way, but it seems they are not clear on the “woman” or “person” giving birth thing, to no one’s surprise.

123467. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death due to a pregnancy-related cause.

Granted I am not a lawyer (as my parents were married I was ineligible for law school), but no criminal action for a action or omission leading to a perinatal death seems like California is down with advertent or inadvertent killing of viable babies (for the reproductive justice, don’t you know), but only thing I could find regarding time frame was that a coroner has three days to produce a death certificate.
The “pregnancy related cause” thing is a bit of a red herring because you can lump nigh anything under that from post-partum depression to anemia. Bobby Sue Baggadonuts claimed post-partum depression and didn’t feed the kid who died, no big deal, I guess.

“Bobby Sue Baggadonuts”
Any relation to an aforementioned SPC Baggadonuts? Or is that the WV side of the family?

Awk-ward.

“Eric Swalwell says Republicans want to ban interracial marriage”
Justice Thomas hardest hit.

In the past, people did indeed just dump unwanted babies since they lacked the ability to abort
This is something that gets left out of the discussion: there’s always been abortion, especially among the poor, but it was post-natal. And the fact that the (translated) Hippocratic oath says “I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion” means that even then people sought to end unwanted pregnancies.
When infant mortality and death in childbirth are sky-high, societies don’t have the luxury of being moralistic about terminating the life of a child you can’t feed anyway. We’ve solved those mortality problems but I’m not convinced we’ve put adequate social structures in place to support those now-viable children. Or perhaps we’ve just torn down the ones that already existed in the name of “justice”. Probably the latter.
In ancient Rome the father had the legal power of life and death over his children.
Even when the paterfamilias was at its height that was metaphorical. what it meant in practice was this: Roman law considered slavery legally equivalent to death: upon being sold into slavery, all a slave’s prior debts, contracts, marriages, obligations, privileges, etc. were annulled (and if later manumitted, the slave did not get those back; legally he was as if newborn). So saying that a paterfamilias had the power of life and death over his children really meant he could sell them into slavery.
A paterfamilias who executed his children for any reason other than obvious self-defense may have been legally within his rights, but would have faced severe repercussions socially, politically and legally.

Awk-ward.
As Chesterton (or Yogi Berra) would have said, a willingness to argue with blacks is democratic.
Our undemocratic illiterate peasant ancestors probably did that cap-in-hand looking at their feet thing when their betters said something they disagreed with. Not sure if they’d have kneeled for anyone except God, though – I think the feudal system entitled them to some dignity.
Dems-are-the-real-racists material for the Ben Shapiro right, and for the left if it reaches the threshold of awareness, which is unlikely, it’ll be inverted or distorted, it certainly won’t be treated as a contradiction that requires them to re-evaluate their assumptions. For example, the news reports on the “Islam is right about women” stunt were along the lines of “white supremacist sticker campaign targets Muslim women”.
Mentally ill perv feels unsafe in the workplace.
If it was about “I just want to be myself and be left alone”, his type could start a business catering to the Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv types, and everyone would feel happy and left alone. Who’s demanding intimate access to whom?

“I just want to be left alone” is shown to be a lie by the number of trans who want to be in intimate spaces with women, as if there aren’t other jobs. Being in these spaces “validates” their feelings, so they seek it out. Also teachers.

“I just want to be left alone…”
..is the motte in the ongoing motte and bailey fallacy put forward by trans-activists. Sadly, many parts of what used to be the bailey have now become the motte.

“Ex-dependapottamus”
Beats the officer’s wives…
“My husband, the…[fill in the blank]”

Nicely done.
It’s the uncanny valley effect of standing animations that kills me. If you don’t have them in a video game it looks static and unreal, but if you do them in real life it looks ridiculous.

Beats the officer’s wives
A squadron wife overheard checking in to a hotel in Singapore “I am Mrs Lt Cdr H***”.

I think I heard that in a Monty Python sketch.
You may have, but it happens in real life, usually when Zotz reaches field grade but I have heard “I am Mrs. LT Zotz”.
Better still, in the olden days when certain ranks got rank stickers for their cars and Mrs. COL/Col/CAPT Zotz would rush out to get one the minute Zotz got promoted so she could get the good parking spots at the PX/BX/NEX/Commissary/Class 6/Package Store. Of course on an Air Force base that was still useless because roughly 90% of all airmen are O-6 or above.