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I think in the US in the 70’s, Roast Beef with yorkshire pudding on Sunday dinner was the ‘high-end’ of the dining scale (for my family, anyway) and roast chicken was more of a regular, not-too-special, but still delicious weeknight meal.
It’s totally reinvented the “can’t be arsed to cook” lifestyle scenario
Everybody Loves Ramen
a “real cheese and pickle sandwich eater.”
#ClassyLifestyleTips
Toast, salted butter, dill pickle chips, Kraft slices: pop under broiler. Less than two minutes later: Mmm. Devour. Repeat.
Who is Neil Young?
Look at Mother Nature, on the run
In the nineteen-seventies
The nineteen-seventies, when Mother Nature was down to Her last gasp, as previously in the nineteen-sixties, and again in the eighties, nineties, oughties, when not? See, we keep not doing what these Mother’s Little Helpers say we have to do for Her sake, and She keeps on keeping on, bless Her terraqueous hide.
Your Dragon name
Tocs the Blithe, Hoarder of Braunschweiger and Extension Cords
Your Dragon Name
Drolkoop the Sanguine, Hoarder of Sesame Chicken And Clickers.
Roast Beef with yorkshire pudding
Yum!
Why would chicken be a luxury food?
I think (?) because they were still being raised mostly in sort of the old barnyard ways. The “industrial” methods had not yet been developed or were in their infancy. If my extremely vague memories are correct, then prices back then would be a clue as to what totally free-range organic chickens ought to cost today.
Your Dragon Name
413tsp the Sleepy, Hoarder of Spam and Clipboards.
I’ll raise Norman Rockwell from the dead to paint the portrait
I’ll chip in for the candles.
Why would chicken be a luxury food?
see table in article below.
Bacon, minced beef, sausages and chicken. Today’s prices relative to adjusted equivalent 1988 prices. All are relatively cheaper today but chicken by the greatest margin.
Also striking that white fish is actually more expensive in real terms- collapse of the cod fisheries, I presume.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/11/heres-how-our-food-prices-compare-to-30-years-ago-and-you-might-be-surprised/
Also striking that white fish is actually more expensive in real terms- collapse of the cod fisheries, I presume.
Similar with regard to other types of fish, I suspect. In the sixties the prices of various Great Lakes fish were lower than today, or so I recall.
I think it’s the way they stare at you if they think you are in their way. Like they have infinite patience.
You are confusing that with the look of a beast dumber than a creosote post without the creosote.
Toast, salted butter, dill pickle chips, Kraft slices: pop under broiler. Less than two minutes later: Mmm. Devour. Repeat.
You know, all around the world people make mock of Southern cooking and the relative healthiness (or lack thereof) of it, but one thing we can say, especially compared to some of the stuff hocked here (see above), it is all edible.
You are confusing that with the look of a beast dumber than a creosote post without the creosote.
Your eloquence does not leave much room to describe sheep.
Your eloquence does not leave much room to describe sheep.
Ovine; res ipsa loquitur.
You know, all around the world people make mock of Southern cooking
The freshest brook trout I ever had was at a small restaurant in North Carolina. The best baked ham I ever had was at Boone Tavern in Berea KY. Also where I discovered spoon bread, yum. Unfortunately, their menu seems to become less Southern and more “cosmopolitan” in recent years, and spoon bread is not even on the menu.
a small restaurant in North Carolina.
Somewhat my (other) neck of the woods. Grated it’s big state but trout implies mountains…somewhat…where abouts? I love good trout. There’s a place in North Georgia called The Flying Trout that was second best to a place we went decades ago somewhere around Maggie Valley called The Pointe of View.
one thing we can say
That’s What I like about the South
Somewhat my (other) neck of the woods. Grated it’s big state but trout implies mountains…somewhat…where abouts?
Somewhere between Asheville and Cullowhee? Regular family visits all through my childhood, but that is now over 40 years ago; no more relatives in the area. 🙁 Beautiful, beautiful country.
Boone Tavern is not the only restaurant that has compromised its original ethnic focus, but it’s a particularly unfortunate case because the parent Berea College exists in part to study and preserve Southern culture.
Boone Tavern recipes. Hats off to all who study and preserve the old ways.
Still hoping someone can explain the precise meaning and derivation of “he’s a real cheese and pickle sandwich”.
Behold Cire the Cold, Horder of Italian Wraps and Torpedo Heaters!
Asheville
Gone down the shitter, I’m afraid, from all that I’ve heard.
Laurie Penny has deep thoughts about pronouns.
Gone down the shitter, I’m afraid, from all that I’ve heard.
🙁
San Francisco crap artists need subsidies!
From the link:
“According to a 2017 Arts & Economic Prosperity report by the San Francisco Arts Commission, the nonprofit arts and culture sector generates $1.45 billion in total economic activity, supports 39,699 full-time jobs, and generates $1 billion in household income to local residents.”
I wonder what dishonest techniques were used to concoct those economic numbers. After all, if those “artists” are generating so much economic activity then why do virtually none of the dollars end up in their pockets?
Also: Remember all those “studies” that “prove” that cities will profit enormously by building sports stadiums that highly profitable privately owned teams claim to be unable to afford to build themselves?
Pretty sure “Sandwich Spread” was basically a Miracle Whip type sauce infused with chopped picked cucumbers. Don’t ever remember it having cabbage in it. It was yummy. And Branston pickle is too. Especially on cheese sandwiches!
Wasn’t it Shipphams who had those dinky barrel-shaped little bottles for various pastes? Can’t remember if it was that make or not but I remember barrel shaped bottles of meat and fish paste. My aunt used to give us that crap spread on bread that had been toasted on one side. Toasting both sides was an extravagance and waste of the leccy. For those of you of a certain age who were not raised in the UK, toast was made in a “grill pan” under the broiler on top of the stove (not in a toaster).
My aunt was married to a professional & well paid man but she served the crappiest food. I was more than happy to eat at home where my widowed, not very well off mother, made us sandwiches of buttered white bread sprinkled with sugar. If she had an extra couple of bob we’d have a few gratings of Cadbury’s milk chocolate on top of the sugar.
White privilege don’t you know.
Speaking as a diabetic some proper hard cheese, cut to order from a block in a decent deli, together with Branson on freshly baked crusty bread (generously buttered) is a real culinary treat. Less is more.
Laurie Penny has deep thoughts about pronouns.
I think we’ll give that one a post of its own.
Comments that-a-way.
Beating the “who is Neil Young” dead horse…
The sixties was a long time ago so my memory may be inaccurate, but as I recall Neil Young was always a hippie fool whose sympathies were with commies.
Akshullly….back around 1983 or so Neil said some rather positive things about Ronald Reagan. He had recently put out a song that got some traction “Proud to Be a Union Man” that mocked the mentality of workers unions of the day. I distinctly remember an interview, most likely in Musician magazine where the leftist interviewer, like all good leftist cultural tools, pressed him on it and he backtracked so quickly it was embarrassing. I do think Neil tried to think for himself but he was too naive to realize the consequences for that in pop culture. It was one of my earliest indications that there was some sort of cultural ideology that even the supposedly “independent” rich and famous were afraid to cross.
Toasting both sides was an extravagance and waste of the leccy.
Leccy. Thank you for that; I love to learn new vocabulary.
Waste. I recently read a biography of Terry Pratchett which describes just how poor they and many other Brits were in the immediate post-war years.
Akshullly….back around 1983 or so Neil said some rather positive things about Ronald Reagan…
Thank you for that. It’s good to get these things right, and I would hate to make an error and have it just sit there unchallenged.
Spam has been mentioned. I haven’t read all the replies, but… Spam Fritters, anyone?
Okay, maybe my tastes are terrible. after all, I used to eat Golden Syrup sandwiches. And I ate them shamelessly!
@pst314: about that A10 Warthog ‘cow hit’. I believe in WW2 a British submarine off the coast of North Africa launched a torpedo at a ship landing German tanks. The torpedo missed the ship, slid up the beach and hit a tank. As these things were recorded, the sub’s ‘Jolly Roger’ with outlines of sunk ships on it was joined by the silhouette of a tank.
One takes one’s successes where one can find them.
Spam Fritters, anyone?
Ahem. This is not a judgement-free space.
ate them shamelessly
Shame is available here at no extra charge. It’s those little extras that tell you this is a high-class establishment.
I used to eat Golden Syrup sandwiches
When I was very young I occasionally ate buttered bread sprinkled with cinnamon sugar. My uncle’s usual school lunch was several lard sandwiches–but that was during the Great Depression.
As these things were recorded, the sub’s ‘Jolly Roger’ with outlines of sunk ships on it was joined by the silhouette of a tank.
One takes one’s successes where one can find them.
A mere tank would only entitle them to return to port with a whisk broom tied to the periscope. 😀
When I was very young I occasionally ate buttered bread sprinked with cinnamon sugar
We had that too, toasted. Called it cinnamon toast.
I am surprised no one has mentioned beef dripping, either sandwiched or on a simple slice of bread, and especially the gourmet version with the jellified crunchy bits from the bottom. A healthy sprinkling of salt rounds off the food fit for gods.
Sgt Jackrum, normally a soldier of taste and refinement, prefers the slightly inferior pork dripping.
I am surprised no one has mentioned beef dripping
No, because the Yorkshire Pudding soaked them all up.
No, because the Yorkshire Pudding soaked them all up
Not so, the prudent British housewife would not squander all that valuable fat from the roast by turning it into gravy. Rather, she would take a little of the fat as a base and then bulk it out with water in which the cabbage (or other veg) had been boiled and then use the magic of Bisto to add flavour and colouring to the gravy. The rest of the fat (and the pan scrapings which add the gourmet bottom layer of a good dripping) is saved for another day.
Incidentally, beef dripping is the best for making chips (fries as they are known to the heathen).
I loathe thick gravy.
Not so, the prudent British housewife would not squander all that valuable fat from the roast by turning it into gravy.
We ‘murricans like being imprudent. But in fact Mom only made gravy from part of the drippings: The rest was left in the bottom of the big skillet to cook the Yorkshire pudding, which made the pudding quite savory without pouring gravy over it like English farmers do. Fat from frying bacon was saved in a canister for use in cooking, just as ham bones were saved for stock and pea soup.
I loathe thick gravy.
Cardinal Fang has been notified. Expect a visit from the Flying Sin Squad later this morning.
Expect a visit from the Flying Sin Squad later this morning
I am on Quick Reaction Alert with my defensive weapons loaded with High Octane Gravy Salt. The gravy boats are already afloat.
The gravy boats are already afloat.
They will be quickly sunk by Fang’s submarine sandwiches.
…just how poor they and many other Brits were in the immediate post-war years.
Have you read 84, Charing Cross Road? (A good book, in my opinion.) The same kind of thing is described there, where the writer (living in New York City) often sends food packages to her penpal in London, which he – living through that postwar austerity – greatly appreciates.
Have you read 84, Charing Cross Road?
Haven’t heard of it. Checking Amazon, I see that there is unfortunately not an English-language Kindle edition. (Only French, Spanish, and Chinese. Odd.) But the local library network has a few printed copies. Thanks. Will add it to list.
I get the impression that kids today have no idea what life was like for our parents–during the Great Depression, right after WWII, etc.
Fang’s submarine sandwiches
HA! No chance. They will be cut into small pieces by the carving knife and turned into croutons.
I have heard that some companies like Amazon strictly limit their employees’ time for bathroom breaks, but this takes the cruelty to a new level.