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David Paxton on identitarian pay complaints:
A pay gap between two men is the product of market forces, but a pay gap between a man and a woman is attributable to either the market or to patriarchal oppression, depending on whom it favours… Pointing at specific cases, highlighting a demographic difference, and then declaring discrimination to be the sole cause without further evidence, is a tactic favoured by those who consider themselves thoroughly modern… But this thought process is pre-medieval – an unreflective instinct of pattern-seeking mammals who habitually see conspiracies in misattributions of cause and effect. Just as infant deaths were once blamed on a neighbour’s malevolent witchcraft, and crop failure on insufficient animal sacrifice, today’s hashtags blame identity-group discrimination for pay differentials when perfectly logical alternative explanations are readily available.
David Solway, husband of Janice Fiamengo, on the corrosive shakedown named “social justice”:
My wife, who for many years donated one fifth of her salary to charity, is anything but a heartless conservative, and I have gone out of my way to help people in distress. We do not reject the social safety net intended to assist the unfortunate who have, as they say, “fallen through the cracks.” But helping measures must be closely and fairly monitored so that the indolent and inept do not gradually displace or usurp the productive and the competent, to everyone’s ultimate disadvantage. A difficult task, to be sure, but worth undertaking. “Social justice” makes no attempt to distinguish the one from the other… The old saw that development grinds to a halt when there are as many or more people riding in the wagon as pulling it applies with a vengeance.
And Toni Airaksinen on the feminist appropriation of “toxic masculinity”:
The term may have first been popularised by early forms of the men’s advocacy movements. (Not feminist movements, as one might expect.) For example, one book that seeks to raise awareness of issues that men face, titled Man Enough: Fathers, Sons, and the Search for Masculinity (1994), highlighted one of the earliest examples of toxic masculinity in the literature. “Without a “father in residence,” [men] may go through life striving towards an ideal of exaggerated, even toxic, masculinity,” the author of the book, Frank Pittman, said on the topic of young men without fathers. But the term has recently been co-opted by the feminist establishment as a way to scapegoat, blame, and denigrate men as a whole. In the college classroom, toxic masculinity is presented to students as a reality that affects all men, and is harmful to all women.
And so we arrive at the contradiction of feminists who denounce “toxic masculinity” as both all-pervasive and a fundamental evil, at least among white people, while simultaneously endorsing fatherlessness and family instability, i.e., the most obvious causes of the behaviour they claim to dislike.
As usual, feel free to share your own links and snippets, on any subject, in the comments.
Haha. That.
To convey just how perverse and potentially ruinous Laurie’s lifestyle advice is, I’m going to have to quote myself – an indulgence, but bear with me:
The original, with links, can be found here.
Variations of the above are a staple of Laurie’s feminist schtick. But imagine if someone without Laurie’s middle-class background, and the cushion it provides, were foolish enough to act out these woke lifestyle fantasies. Say, a young woman on a rough council estate. Do we think it would go well and be every bit as glamorous and “exciting” as Laurie and Ms Schwartz would have us believe?
And this isn’t just a case of idiots diminishing their own prospects, and the prospects of their children, and making their own lives more difficult and prone to failure and dependency. If done in sufficient numbers, as Laurie advocates, the fallout spreads and, in time, a tipping point is reached. For single mothers, the state typically becomes a kind of negligent husband, one who doesn’t love you, and cannot love you, but whose cheques can be cashed. As Mark Steyn noted, “A society in which a majority of births are out of wedlock cannot be other than a Big Government welfare society.”
Again, a tipping point.
Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.
AKA freeloading.
AKA freeloading.
Well, yes. But it’s radical freeloading, apparently, so that makes it okay.
Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.
Maybe it’s just my bourgeois backwardness, but acknowledging that this new “exciting” means of social organization leads to certain “gaps” in outcome, which “gaps” Ms. Schwartz presumably wishes to avoid with the “anti-family,” seems to refute her arguments at the outset.
And let us not forget, it’s leftists who criticize things like parents sacrificing to send their children to private schools or even reading bedtime stories their, because such things lead to “privilege,” something which causes unfair outcomes and discriminates against those who’ve decided to arrange their lives in conformance with Penny’s and Schwartz’s “exciting” advice.
One can’t help but think that the “excitement” Ms. Schwartz and company feel is the same sort an arsonist experiences in watching a building burn to the ground.
One can’t help but think that the “excitement” Ms. Schwartz and company feel is the same sort an arsonist experiences in watching a building burn to the ground.
Well, it does bear a striking resemblance to a kind of rationalised malice, in that if you wanted to ruin someone’s life while flattering yourself, what would you do differently? And people like Laurie and Ms Schwartz, our supposedly radical gurus, have little to gain from successful, functional people with a grip on their own lives. And they have no incentive to offer advice that would result in more functionality and success. They feed on failure and irresponsibility, and the resentment that follows.
We must never forget this day.

I always enjoy the adoring comments underneath. Not so much from the women, but from the noodle-armed strangebeards which occupy her timeline. You see this crowd in the comments under every deranged feminist writer. This graphic was made just for them:
the noodle-armed strangebeards which occupy her timeline.
Heh.
And speaking of generally unpleasant, somewhat deranged, feminist writers, here’s Natalia Antonova who I’ve written about before:
https://twitter.com/NataliaAntonova/status/977964189699493888
Of course, being a “playwright and journalist” she simply can’t just go and get a fucking job like everyone else. No, if she can’t support herself and her child by writing rather immature and uninteresting articles, she’d rather beg for money on the internet than go and do a job that actually pays. I am also skeptical that Brooklyn is the best location to move to when desperately short of money: yeah, I get her kid is sick but presumably there are hospitals and medical facilities in South Carolina, for example. Why do I get the feeling sonny’s medical treatment was not the priority concern when she was choosing where to live?
I was hoping she’d start a crowdfunding page, because I’d be willing to bet her readers – like Penny’s – are, despite their lefty credentials and sycophantic arse-licking, the sort of people who complain about paying for the bus home from a free night out.
Over at Tim’s gaff, a tale of romance.
@Tim Newman – I see the white knights are out in force there too. Why it’s almost predictable.
As is the Penny pic. I think underneath the self-loathing daddy issues Laurie there is something resembling a pretty woman; the self-denying uglification is predictable too. In five years we’ll get the where-are-all-the-good-men articles. In ten it will be single motherhood after some undesirable whomever provides a gamete.
I think underneath the self-loathing daddy issues Laurie there is something resembling a pretty woman
The most unattractive thing about her by a mile is her attitude. If that changed, and she took a bath, she’d be fine.
I think it was in the comments under one of David’s (many) pieces on deranged feminists I first read that, while beauty is only skin deep, ugly cuts right to the bone. And as mate in RL said when were discussing how good looking a woman must be before you’d sleep with her: “personality goes a loooooooong way”.
The most unattractive thing about her by a mile is her attitude.
Looks fade. Obnoxiousness is forever.
the comments under one of David’s (many) pieces on deranged feminists
I regret nothing.
“personality goes a loooooooong way”.
Many years ago during my college days, I recall an acquaintance whose bar-attention had been directed toward a physically attractive lady, returning to our group after a few moments and announcing, “I need some personality with my t*ts.”
I need some personality with my t*ts.
You can tolerate no personality, at least for a while. Most blokes have dated a dull woman at some point. But a personality like Laurie Penny’s? You’d put an ocean between that and you, first chance you’d get.
I need some personality with my t*ts.
Any more of this locker room talk and we’ll be flicking each other with towels.
What?
You’d put an ocean between that and you, first chance you’d get.
Fortunately, Nature has provided us with aposematism to give us a heads-up before we engage such a personality. See, e.g., photos of Penny posted above.
See, e.g., photos of Penny posted above.
Indeed, hence the line I quoted from my book. Normal people don’t need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something. Okay there may be exceptions, but as the mafia bosses at the end of Casino say: “Why take a chance?”
Normal people don’t need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.
And probably not what they think they are. See also Ms Celia Edell, our “feminist philosopher interested in social justice,” who complains that people don’t take her seriously. Which is shocking, really, given that she oozes both competence and gravitas.
Suppose Guinness reshot the Heineken ad and showed the hearty dark beers sliding down the bar to dark skinned men while the last, pale yellow, light beer is caught by a noodle armed guy with a full hipster beard and wearing a faux lumberjack shirt.
Would that be racist?
Ms Penny strikes me as the sort of person who spends a lot of time composing her spontaneous selfies and then stares at them for hours.
Nkechi Amare Diallo is an obvious anagram of “Heck Milo I dare anal”
From the comments to David’s self-referential link at 14:39.
Don’t ask, “Why?” It doesn’t matter.
I dare anal
Which I still maintain would be an excellent band name.
Tim Newman: Normal people don’t need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.
It’s called aposematism. A warning signal.
Re: Turk Turkleton | March 27, 2018 at 23:55
I remember all that Athe-Plus stuff. Dr. Richard “I am your intellectual artillery” Carrier (until he turned out to be just as sexist, in their eyes, as anyone else, allegedly having cheated on his wife and then claiming he was poly). PZ Myers and his legendary “ban-hammer” from FT Blogs of anyone who dared hold a contrary opinion about anything. And who could forget (although many already have) Becky Watson?
Oh, those were the fun days of YouTube. Thunderf00t’s videos taking the piss on Atheism+, and especially Mykeru’s videos on the subject. His vids from that period are still fun to watch, even all these years hence. Good times.
Poor Laurie! Suffering to bring us her wisdom:
How I Stopped Worrying And Learned To Love The Abuse, Harassment and Trashing That Has Been My Daily Reality For The Past Nine Years: by me, a woman who writes words for a living.
I wonder if she’s tried being nicer?
the comments under one of David’s (many) pieces on deranged feminists
I regret nothing.
No refunds. Credit note only.
Normal people don’t need to go around with blue hair, and those that do are signalling something.
I met an…impressively tattooed woman in her mid-30s at a social event a few weeks back, and she responded to an offhand comment I made about one of her pieces by blurting out “My mother says tattoos are for sailors and white trash.”
I assure you, my self-control was Herculean.
I wonder if she’s tried being nicer?
Nice is bourgeois and inauthentic, and thus anathema true revolutionaries.
I wonder if she’s tried being nicer?
Laurie’s standard manoeuvre is to construe any mockery and contempt aimed at her, and at what she says and writes, as an attack on All Of Womanhood, and driven by “fear” of how radical and brave she is.
You have to wonder if it ever crosses Laurie’s mind that the ridicule and scorn might have something to do with her being an incorrigible fantasist and liar who regularly insults half the population, as if it were a credential, and says things like this, and things like these, and who then expects to be taken seriously as an intellectual powerhouse.
But somehow, I doubt it.
I assure you, my self-control was Herculean.
I’ve told my kids, tattoos are only acceptable if one of the following is true: You were a member of the 2e Régiment étranger de parachutistes and dropped on Kolwezi in 1978 or landed at Iwo Jima with the 5th Marines in 1945.
Otherwise, just buy a decent suit, tie, shoes and call it a day.
It’s called aposematism. A warning signal.
*cough*
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couple-more-400-personalities-between-12259376
Much has been made of Ms Penny being raised by two parents in a stable and middle-class environment, yet look how she turned out.
You mustn’t forget though that when Ms Penny’s proposed and agitated-for brave new world goes pear-shaped with a vengeance, the lass has someone to run to for comfort and protection.
That “skeptics” and atheists align so closely with contemporary leftists ideologically is not an accident.
Well, you’ll find there there is no shortage of atheists among libertarians and even conservatives. But they are less likely to interpret their religious skepticism as a social one-up on everyone else. Hence, the lower level of conspicuous preening over the matter.
Much has been made of Ms Penny being raised by two parents in a stable and middle-class environment, yet look how she turned out.
Alas, that’s not a guarantee. My book examines the case of a woman who went similarly off the rails in much the same manner, yet came from a rather privileged background and went to a top university. I reached the conclusion that might have been half the problem.
You mustn’t forget though that when Ms Penny’s proposed and agitated-for brave new world goes pear-shaped with a vengeance, the lass has someone to run to for comfort and protection.
Alas, her father passed away. We found this when she declared “all men are trash” and someone asked if she thought he father was too. She then cried foul, because he’s dead.
Right now I’m rocking a neon blue buzz cut.
She kind of looks like a lemur if a lemur had blue hair.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=large+eyed+rodents&client=firefox-b-ab&dcr=0&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=zZqX4bvnLPLMbM%253A%252CVtO0CrTAAZRWjM%252C_&usg=__3ZAlMD8OGZUu8gJlvaRu1uElsMM%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt3YeR7o_aAhUC94MKHenbD7kQ9QEIKzAB#imgrc=NDOP3P12XXoa4M:
Note that Janice Fiamengo’s lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/campus-barbarians-inside-gates/
Can you imagine police standing by and letting this happen if this was a feminist, or representative of Planned Parenthood or a Muslim imam whose event was thus disrupted?
cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off
That has long been a favorite tactic of the left, because nothing says “we care about free speech” than using dirty tricks to silence dissent.
Steve E,

A favorite lemur meme:
Janice Fiamengo’s lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.
And the usual harassment and thuggery, which, for Mao-lings, is the sweetest plum, the reward for all their pretentious, utterly vacant piety:
It’s sometimes hard to articulate the exact level of irony.
Janice Fiamengo’s lecture on 24th March 2018 was cancelled following (false) fire alarms going off.
I sometimes wonder if the sight of people like Janice Fiamengo, Christina Hoff Sommers, et al being harassed and screamed at by vain little morons might induce some flickering of unease among the morons’ so-called educators and academic bureaucrats. Perhaps they’ll register the optics and how such behaviour, and morony, reflects on them, personally, and what it says to the wider public. And then I remember the kinds of people we’re talking about.
Because somehow the “community” will fill in the gaps.
Re Laurie and Ms Schwartz and their radical “diffusion” of the family unit, i.e., single motherhood and that supposedly feminist and empowering dependency on the state, here are some of those real-world consequences that they don’t like to talk about. There is, you’ll note, no mention of a father, as if even to raise the question would be terribly problematic and just not done.
But hey, radical and sexy.
Via Tim.
But hey, radical and sexy.
From some of the comments at that link, it would appear that “radical and sexy” precludes the possibility of delayed self-gratification. Evidently there is no moral component to the deliberate decision to make others pay for one’s bad decisions. The sense of entitlement is breathtaking.
Julia Kristeva was communist secret agent, Bulgaria claims
“personality goes a loooooooong way”
So by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality…
Kristeva, 76, is the author of more than 30 books and worked alongside leading French intellectuals such as Jacques Derrida, Jacques Lacan and Roland Barthes.
Also known as, “The Trinity of Bullshit.”
Looks like there’s no actual crime in Avon and Somerset.
https://twitter.com/ASPoliceLGBT/status/979340240925192192
Looks like there’s no actual crime in Avon and Somerset.
Cringeworthy. And the people involved assume that this kind of theatre somehow improves the image of the police force. Truly, they will strike terror into the hearts of evildoers.
Bless!
https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/979373037001863169
Bless!
‘Tis gone. What did I miss?
The talk of attractiveness of one’s political antitheses is, perhaps, a tad infra dig. I will only offer up one observation: the one thing that makes almost any face more appealing is a genuine smile.