The Mouthing of Bollocks
When we talk about “ethnic” food, we’re not referring to French, German, or Italian cuisine, and definitely not those Ikea Swedish meatballs.
I suspect few people think of German cuisine as particularly mysterious and alluring. There are, I fear, very few German restaurants beyond the borders of Germany. Good cars, though.
Usually, we’re talking about Thai, Vietnamese, Indian, Ethiopian, and Mexican food – places where food is cooked by the “brownest” people.
As is the custom with articles in Everyday Feminism, the density of assumption in what follows is quite high. For instance, when my family ventures out for a meal, table for twenty, I can say with some confidence that the choice of restaurant isn’t determined by the melanin levels of the people cooking it.
What happens is that food becomes the only identifier for certain places. Japan reduced to ramen and sushi, Mexico reduced to tacos and burritos, India reduced to curry, and so on.
Again, note the loadedness, the questions begged. I don’t think I’ve ever eaten, say, chili while convinced that said meal was an adequate distillation of the entire population of Mexico and Texas, past and present. Nor can I recall “fetishizing the sustenance of another culture.” Or “subsuming histories and stories into menu items.” It’s a meal, not an attempt to absorb world history or to flirt with some notional brownness. Yet this is asserted as “what happens,” as some universal fact. And then promptly contradicted:
Eating food from another culture in isolation from that culture’s history and also current issues mean [sic] that we’re just borrowing the pieces that are enjoyable – palatable and easily digestible.
Um, isn’t that rather the point? You know, tastiness without baggage? Isn’t that what makes foreign cuisine commercially viable, a livelihood of millions? Or is ordering takeout only acceptable following lengthy, brow-furrowing investment in each and every vendor’s ancestral culture and current politics? Should every visit to, say, a Pakistani restaurant entail a stern lecture on the pros and cons of European colonialism and a lifetime subscription to the fever dream of Islam? Would that aid digestion? Stated plainly, it sounds a little silly. But Ms Kuo wishes to appear concerned, deeply concerned, that people of pallor might enjoy falafel and a spot of hummus “but not understand or address the ongoing Islamophobia in the US.”
Well. Contra Ms Kuo, I’m pretty sure that the family running my local Chinese takeaway actively encourages heathen white folk to sample their wares, regardless of whether those paying customers are intimately familiar with All Of Chinese History, and regardless of whether those customers dutifully ponder how the cooking of this particular family may differ from other Chinese families in a country as vast and sprawling as China. And I very much doubt that they expect their patrons to acquaint themselves with “the complex relationships and power dynamics between Asian countries” and issues of “labour equity and immigration policy” as a precondition of buying hot tossed chicken. No. What they want is custom. Pretentiously agonised pseudo-sensitivity is, alas, not billable.
And yet for Ms Kuo neurotic fretting is, and should be, a staple of eating out:
Food can be used as a tool of marginalisation and oppression… It’s critical for us to reflect on how we perceive the cultures that we’re consuming and think about the relationships between food, people, and power.
Imagine the fun. The thrillingly politicised mealtime conversation.
Ms Kuo describes herself as “a scholar and educator based in New York City.” Her interests include “racial justice, intersectional feminism and digital media activism.”
How to simulate menstruation. http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2015/but-how-do-you-simulate-cramps/#comments
Be disrespectful. Very disrespectful.
Or is ordering takeout only acceptable following lengthy, brow-furrowing investment in each and every vendor’s ancestral culture and current politics?
Before you buy takeout you have to pass a cultural sensitivity test. Business will boom!
so Americans now only recognize African-sourced slaves as the true historical slaves of the Americas
I gotta admit, I sometimes enjoy annoying these ‘more-culturally-sensitive-than-thou’ self-anointers on the ‘net
SJW: African-Americans today still are oppressed by the racist, living legacy of slavery!
Me: Really? So slavery is responsible for bad grades? high school drop-outs? single motherhood?
SJW: Yeah, easily said by someone who has reaped the benefits of slavery because of White Privilege.
Me: My family was brought here in 1697 against their will as slaves. They were sold to work a plantation in Virginia.
SJW: …
Me: If I screwed up a test in school, it never crossed my mind to blame the family that owned mine.
SJW: Funny, you don’t look black … LIAR
Me: You think the only slaves in the New World came out of Africa?
SJW: ….
SJW: ….
SJW: [blocking you]
I prefer to think of them as “People Of Stupor” or POS for short
In other news:
Yoga class cancelled due to “cultural appropriation.”
A friend of mine just got back from her, presumably, quite familiar and ongoing yoga class.
My friend is extremely, or as she puts it, stereotypically, Russian.
Ms Kuo says,
I’ve yet to meet anyone who believed that tasting falafel or sag aloo gave them great insight onto Middle Eastern culture or life in the Indian subcontinent. It’s laughable, the stuff of comedy sketches. In fact, this was the premise of a gag in a short-lived sitcom called The War at Home, in which the gay son of a Middle Eastern family recoils from some ‘authentic’ home cooking and explains to his Jewish friend, “I think this is why my people are always so angry.”
I forgot to sign my comment properly with my full title — President #Obama Mc Faily-worsethanfkncarter — humble apologies to all concerned.
. . . . for playing a trans character in Zoolander 2
That is indeed a definite problem. There is to be a Zoolander Two??!?!
—Of course, as far as I know the original is fine, I should get around to seeing it, where one one hand there was La Chèvre , Les Compères, and Les Fugitifs, all without a single Roman numeral in the lot, and then on the other hand there was La Cage aux Folles, La Cage aux Folles II , and La Cage aux Folles 3: The Wedding . . . .
. . . and for stuff in English, there is the entire James Bond series of movies, The Three / Four Musketeers followed by The Return Of The Musketeers . . . .
I’m British. I live in Costa Rica. A couple of weeks ago, I had a friend round, and we had one of her favourite dishes: falafels (to which I introduced her). I made them myself, from scratch. From whom and on whose behalf did I ‘appropriate’ this typically Eastern Mediterranean food? What about the time we had Lamb Rogan Josh (also made by me, and generally unknown in Mesoamerican cuisine)? When I eat gallo pinto or patacones, am I being culturally hegemonic or just eating what everyone else eats here (when they’re not stuffing their faces with burgers or southern fried chicken or pizza or sushi)?
I’ve said it before: the very essence of ‘culture’, the thing that stops us from having to invent everything ab novo every twenty years or so, is seeing what other people do and copying them.
It’s all so repulsively stupid.
I had my wife read this article, and the source material. Her immediate response was to ask why Ms. Kuo wants to put all the little immigrant-run restaurants out of business. And she is right. This country is full of tiny little places where little old ladies from places like Thailand and Burma are able to support their families by providing wonderful food to a small number of people who really appreciate it. I have enjoyed a bunch of meals at such places. We are regulars at some places like that, and have been customers long enough to know their extended families, and for them to know ours.
And it pisses me off a little that Ms. Kuo is offended that people would expect her to know where to get “authentic” or high quality ethnic food. She may be offended, but I bet she could absolutely tell you which are the best Korean restaurants in her area. But the thing is, anyone who cares about food can usually offer such advice, and it can be a big deal to them. I am no hipster foodie, but I come from a family that takes good food very seriously. I can absolutely tell you my favorite place to get BBQ in West Texas or South Alabama, or recommend a place to get a great meal in Madrid, Tokyo, Singapore, Santa Fe, Lome, JBurg, and many other places. And yes, I can recommend a good soul food restaurant. It is not my goal in life to try to eat at every McDonalds in Asia and Europe.
Toadboy,
You said “The waitperson frowns, makes me repeat the order, then fetches the manager”
I don’t mean to sound like a lacist bigot but how do you know it was a different person?
The Mouthing of Bollocks
I see what you did there.
dw,
Please can I have the link to that vid? Do share.
And for the rest of this crowd….
Ta
A
PS I only want to see for research purposes.
Having travelled extremely extensively through a lot of the world I have noted foreigners are quite keen on steak, burgers, fish and chips, Irish pubs and just about any other Western food, not to mention the fact that Asia has some of the best musicians and dancers in the Western classical tradition. In fact Japan would have to be the most culturally appropriative country in the world, and not only that but their ‘ethnic’ restaurants tend to be better than the original versions in Italy or France.
And re the Twitter account, I have one, which I programmed in Python to spew out random feminist and other right-on phrases from a database – other intersectional feminists have favourited my tweets, and right-wingers attack me completely unaware of the fact that I am a bot. There was one futurist who liked the phrase “radicalism is the essence of futurism”.
The Catch-22 of the Progressives: you must import immigrants who will provide diversity to the host country in culinary offerings. These authentic culinary offerings you will be unable to sample in your host country, because to do so is to encourage an ossification of immigrant culinary food culture, but will also create a demand that is preventing the poor in the source country being able to afford this food[*]. Therefore, you must import people who cannot provide the goods and services that you say they need to be imported for.
A cynic would be saying that the idea is that these immigrants must live off welfare and cook only for their own racial or cultural groups instead of setting up small businesses and engaging in harmful ‘Capitalism’ that sabotages the ‘Progressive’ ideology.
[*] All part of the arguments Rachel Kuo makes in her article.
From a comment on Dom’s link:
Had my wife read this and tell me what it means. After the third re-read, she realized what was going on. She then got mad at me for reading my stupid blogs and all that crazy stuff that’s way out there. I blame Dom for this.
Yep, WTP, that one made me pause a bit, but further on in the thread is this from Dad
uh huh
WTP and Darleen, the part I liked was — when making the simulated menstrual blood — she used only ingredients that were edible, in case a trans-woman wants to stick it in her vagina!
Up until that point I didn’t know what else it was good for.
I mean, do you just dump it in a plastic bag and tell everyone, “Look. I’m bleeding. Just like a real chick.”
Shhh…I opened a bottle of red, grilled us two two-and-a-half inch steaks, and S’mores for dessert (hopefully cultural appropriation from the Girl Scouts is still OK) and she’s forgotten all about it. Shhhhhhh.
“Her immediate response was to ask why Ms. Kuo wants to put all the little immigrant-run restaurants out of business.”
1. Ms Kuo does not care about the people who work at those immigrant-run restaurants.
2. Ms Kuo has chosen a career built on destroying other peoples’ lives.
Ah, progressives. Aren’t they such wonderful people? /sarcasm
A reminder: the site in question is eschewing the phrase “trigger warning” because “the word ‘trigger’ relies on and evokes violent weaponry imagery. This could be re-traumatizing for folks who have suffered military, police, and other forms of violence.”
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/guide-to-triggering/
And apparently they’ve never heard of the “euphemism treadmill”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism#Evolution
Easy to remember rubric for fretting Westerners: If you like their stuff, it’s “cultural appropriation” and therefore bad; if they like our stuff, it’s “cultural imperialism” and therefore bad.
See, it’s easy!
Oh, you won’t derail this crowd. They’re tenacious. And fragrant.
Especially after I’ve appropriated chorizo and eggs for breakfast. o_O
Oh…
The SJWs want us to feel guilty for things that are innocent, like enjoying food from another culture. If they can make you feel unearned guilt, then they have power over you. And power is what the “social justice” nonsense is about, ultimately. Two excellent responses are rational argument and ridicule, which (as we can see above) often can be done at the same time.
When we talk about “ethnic” food, we’re not referring to French, German, or Italian cuisine, and definitely not those Ikea Swedish meatballs.
Not at my grocery store we’re not.
Marmite? LMAO!
R. Sherman: Close, but you forgot that if you don’t like their stuff, you’re ethno-centric and/or racist.
From the trigger trigger warning:
So they don’t use the word trigger in the phrase trigger warning but they use it IN the warning
Ethnic restaurants adjust their recipes to suit local tastes. So when you go for an Indian, you are not, as you previously thought, culturally appropriating Indian cuisine but in fact imperiously imposing you own culture by making the chef cook chicken tikka the way you like it, not the way he likes it.
“Hello. Can I take your order, please?”
“I want you to know that, being progressive and enlightened, I don’t think of your food as abnormal or weird.”
“Er… okay… Can I take your order?”
“And I won’t be eating what I’m about to order in isolation from your culture’s history and current issues.”
“Right. That’s nice. And your order is…?”
“And I in no way regard the meal I’m about to order as a comprehensive representation of your culture…”
“Yes, about that order…”
“And I want you to know that I’ve been thinking deeply about labour equity and immigration policy.”
“Look, lady. There’s a queue…”
You may be about to feature this by Zoe Williams:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/23/socialism-innovation-ipad-john-mcdonnell?CMP=twt_gu
It contains a classic quote: “human progress is about more than the iPad”
Who knew?
It contains a classic quote: “human progress is about more than the iPad.” Who knew?
Apparently, market economies, their innovations and wealth creation are merely “base and unenlightening.” As opposed to Zoe’s lofty mental horizons, being as she is our Philosopher Queen.
Her interests include “racial justice, intersectional feminism and digital media activism.”
Translation: I wasted $200,000 of my parents’ money on a joke degree and now I channel my anger on Twitter.
“the word ‘trigger’ relies on and evokes violent weaponry imagery. This could be re-traumatizing for folks who have suffered military, police, and other forms of violence.”
Aside from police and military, what other forms of violence could there possibly be? Surely they’re not referring to brown people and others throwing off the yoke of their oppression by liberating stuff and stuff. Social justice is not violence.
Every time I see shit like this I get the urge to black up and dress as one of The Black & White Minstrels.
“Hello. Can I take your order, please?”
I want you know before I place my sushi order, I’ve rewatched the entire Shōgun miniseries from the ’70s. That Toranaga dude was bad-ass.
I’m rather tickled by the idea that before eating anything more exotic than a sandwich, you first have to establish your ‘progressive’ credentials, publicly and at length.
Oh, the fun they must have.
‘Every time I see shit like this I get the urge to black up and dress as one of The Black & White Minstrels’.
The latest is the call for a boycott of ‘Zoolander II’, because Benedict Cumberbatch is playing a tranny.
If stupidity were a lethal pandemic it would be worse than the Spanish Flu right now.
So that Japanese restaurant I went to with my parents for my birthday, we were oppressing the entertaining Hibachi chef? Shall I rend my garments in grief or something?
It’s actually acceptable to culturally appropriate Japanese culture, because cultural appropriation is a part of Japanese culture, and when in Tokyo…
Seriously, how else would one explain the following:
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/curse-colonel-japans-obsession-kfc
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/why-japan-is-obsessed-with-kentucky-fried-chicken-on-christmas-1-161666960/?no-ist
I’d love to get one of these Social Justice types to sit down and work through exactly who is appropriating who in these cases.
@Civilis
A couple of Summers ago, my daughter spent several weeks in Taiwan with a local family which included a business executive and a physics professor. Their “go-to” place was 7-11. My daughter first thought they were merely trying to accommodate her Western tastes.
Wrong.
The Taiwanese love 7-11 for takeout American food.
I used to work for a small college on the Canadian Prairies that had a lot of aboriginal/First Nations/Metis/Indian/whatever students taking upgrading classes. One of the committees was an Non-status/Metis Committee to address issues that these students might have – good idea overall. The interesting thing is that in the world of identity politics, Metis is a vague term and generally ends up applying to anyone who identifies as Metis(Metis used to refer to descendants of French fur traders and native women). So the chair of this committee was a blond, nordic woman who would likely burn in the sun quicker than I (I’m Scot-Irish redhead).
Sackcloth and Ashes, is that for real? There’s a Zoolander II? Now I really am offended!
As a Lebanese guy, I give you license to “appropriate” all of the damned culture you want if you buy enough of the tabouli and kibbeh…
This stance these ad self-abusers muggung fot attention take is ridiculous. THERE ARE REAL THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE WORLD, NOT THIS CRAP.
Besides, what “xhe” may not get is that by sampling the scents and flavors not native to their culture, they do more to learn about it and honor it than to “appropriate” it.
Do these same idiots take back their averring that non-european immigration add “texture and depth” to western societies?
Not likely – because their penchance is to hate the society that made them, and their self-regard is based entirely on the extent to which they can tell happy, normal people (whom they hate,) how to live.
Obviously she doesn’t want white people to eat nasty foreign food. Only dirty foreigners eat foreign food.
(It would be a great joy to phrase it to her thus in person in order to watch the reaction.)
What they want is custom. Pretentiously agonised pseudo-sensitivity is, alas, not billable.
Something tells me Ms Kuo has never run a food business or any business (and most likely never will).
Eating food from another culture in isolation from that culture’s history and also current issues mean [sic] that we’re just borrowing the pieces that are enjoyable – palatable and easily digestible.
Millions of people will pay for good food and feeling welcome.
“Complex colonial stories” about “labour equity and immigration policy”… Not so much.
The thing I find most dispiriting about this is that Ms. Kuo is a Taiwanese-American. I used to think of them as competent. Honorary Westerners, if you will.
My world crumbles.
You bastards will have to peel my coffee cup from my cold, dead hands.
Regarding Ms.Kuo’s experience in the food industry…assuming I have the correct Rachel Kuo, behold her experience working the Weinermobile and other interesting or not so interesting stuff on her LinkedIn page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelkuo
You will probably not be surprised to find out she’s a Mizzou grad.
Disappointed to find out that the Oscar Mayer Weinermobile doesn’t have higher standards. 🙁