Don’t Oppress My People With Your Expectations Of Politeness And Basic Consideration
Lifted from the comments – which you’re reading, of course – an item deserving of a little more attention.
The Atlantic is currently promoting an article from its archive, one selected by the editors as a “must-read,” a measure of the magazine’s importance to the progressive lifestyle. A choice that is perhaps more telling than intended.
The chosen article, by novelist Xochitl Gonzalez, poses the question, “Why Do Rich People Love Quiet?” It is sub-headed, “The sound of gentrification is silence.” A racially judgemental tone prevails. Such that the term rich people can be read as meaning white people. Followed by implied tutting.
It begins with an account of life at university – Brown, since you ask – and the merits of Brooklyn hip hop combos:
Ah, those downtrodden minority students, huddled together for mutual safety. Lest the roaming tigers find them.
As I said, the tutting is implied.
And then, belatedly, the realisation that attempts at intellectual activity – say, at an upscale university – tend to require a certain restraint, noise-wise:
Morning lectures being an inconceivable thing, it seems.
Ms Gonzalez, who repeatedly mentions how “minority” and “of colour” she is, also tells us how she, “just wanted to be around people in places where nobody told us to shush.” Say, when being a late-night annoyance to roommates and neighbours, a thing that by her own account happens repeatedly, or when playing music in a library. Where other people are trying to study:
A bold admission. One, I suspect, that reveals more than intended. Also, the claim that one can sit down in a library accidentally.
Ms Gonzalez’ tale of woe continues:
Ms Gonzalez, it seems, was being oppressed. Just for being thoughtless and noisy when people are trying to study. Her comfort was being impacted by requests for civility. How very dare they.
As dicentra notes in the comments,
Well, indeed. One of the many things to have somehow not crossed our author’s mind.
Feel her pain. The outrageousness of it all.
Well, yes, It does. You selfish, classless bint.
And note the sly downgrading of an ability to do some actual work as mere comfort. Or an ability to sleep without hearing hip hop once again booming through the wall.
And the Atlantic publishes this – this ode to antisocial selfishness – as if it might leave the reader morally improved. And feeling sympathetic towards the author.
Inevitably, Ms Gonzalez blames her own moral shortcomings on other people’s race and class, as if, by expecting politeness, they were imposing on her in cruel and unusual ways. Because – magic words – “of colour.” But the common variable, the one that’s hard to miss, is the author’s own rudeness and self-absorption. And so, she blunders into the library’s “Absolutely Quiet Room,” and fires up her music.
Oh, and for those of you curious about the author’s precise level of brownness, and thereby magical qualities, and all those rather handy exemptions from reciprocal proprieties, I’ll just leave this here:
Ms Gonzalez tells us that the “absence of noise” – by which she means, consideration for others – is “at odds with who I was. Who a lot of us were.” And yet she wonders why other people – less selfish people – might want to get away from her. Away from all the noise. And to live somewhere nicer, somewhere she doesn’t.
Readers may wish to ponder the possibility that noise may often be a pretty good measure of other issues. People who don’t care about stopping their neighbours from studying or sleeping may not care about other things too. Other boundaries. Which in turn may go some way to explaining the existence of those quiet, gentrified neighbourhoods, the ones that so offend Ms Gonzalez.
The expectation of consideration is soon, predictably, via contrivance, framed as a form of racial oppression. A way to torment “Black and brown communities,” in which the ethos is “loud and proud.” Because if residents of respectable neighbourhoods object to their nights being disrupted by endless overdriven sound systems, then this is merely “an elite sonic aesthetic: the systemic elevation of quiet over noise.” And almost certainly racist.
“One person’s loud is another person’s expression of joy,” we’re told. “I take pride in saying that we are a loud people.”
An expression of joy by loud people can be found embedded below:
What’s the point? 🤦♂️ pic.twitter.com/oIcSwQH82f
— Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) June 11, 2024
Note the self-satisfied quip, “They’ll be fine. They can buy a house somewhere else.” Today’s words, by the way, are recreational spite.
At which point, readers may wonder how Ms Gonzalez, a novelist, manages to write her books amid the fashionably vibrant racket that she recommends to others. All that shouting and shrieking and “ceaseless music” that she finds so liberating and authentic. Wouldn’t those extended and rather complicated trains of thought be disrupted, and likely made impossible, by all the shouting and laughing, all the whumping and thumping, all those jolly sirens?
Happily, an answer is provided in the pages of Elle Décor, in which Ms Gonzalez opined some two months earlier:
This point is expanded upon:
And so, our silence-needing novelist sought out “a gorgeous historic house in downtown Kingston, New York.” Ah, yes. An “upstate vacation rental.”
Perhaps Ms Gonzalez was hoping that readers of her Atlantic article – the one about noise being so vibrant and racially affirming – would not stumble across her Elle Décor piece, published weeks earlier, which rather calls into question her own later claims. And which, it has to be said, suggests a certain pretence, a certain hypocrisy.
In short, then, your desire for peace and quiet is terribly problematic, and probably racist. While hers, not so much. Which is enormously convenient. If not entirely convincing.
Previously in the Atlantic:
A woman oppressed by crumbs.
And another expensively educated Brooklynite who insists that crossword puzzles are “one of the systemic forces that threaten women.”
And then there was the attempt to convince us that chronic thievery is totally fine and nothing to complain about, provided it’s being done to someone else. Someone who isn’t an Atlantic contributor, presumably.
Oh, and let’s not forget that the Atlantic referred to Elon Musk as, and I quote, “a far-right activist.”
This blog is kept afloat by the buttons below.
Another day, another personality disorder masquerading as politics….
The what? Even in the 90s this nonsense prevailed? It’s remarkable how keen ‘liberal’ Americans are on racial segregation.
Also, she seems to be of Puerto Rican extraction, which means she’s basically white. Of course it is a curious European affectation to believe that Spanish people are white. I denounce myself.
That. Every time they just come across as awful f*cking people.
I believe the part about it being an accident. She probably didn’t know it existed.
Well, the fact that the article was chosen as an exemplary piece, a “must-read,” a distillation of what the Atlantic and its progressive readership is all about… does rather imply things.
[ Post updated with some earlier offerings from the Atlantic. ]
And I bet she leaves her grocery cart in the parking lot instead of returning it to the corral.
It is the little things like that, be it stray carts or loud music, that are the hallmarks of ghettofication. While affluent people can be crass and entitled, some poor people can be mean and lowly – both are to be reviled. The problem is that there is this tendency to romanticize the poor and you cannot convince me that a good number among them use this to their advantage.
That.
btw tip jar hit. Great blog, barkeep.
Some ancestry is uncovered:
Which may possibly explain the antisocial tendencies.
Bless you, sir. May you be spared proximity to drivers who dither and exude uncertainty.
[ Slides tip jar to more prominent position, adds fairy lights. ]
Pair the neat freak and the woman who wants to commit noise pollution. It’s a latter-day Felix Unger and Oscar Madison.
I live just outside Kingston. Selfish, classless bints (to use your term) like Gonzalez are pricing locals out of the market. Also, as you might imagine, they have enormous class snobbery toward the working-class types that have disproportionately populated the area.
They also voted out long-time legislator, a small-city, all politics is local Democrat (so no right-wing whack-job) in a primary and replaced him with a Democratic Socialist. Among other things, the new legislator wants the state to take over the local electric utility.
As a local, I doubt she goes to that sort of supermarket. Either she has everything delivered/pickup, or she uses the hipster food stores.
Also as a lifelong local, “upstate New York” always had a very fluid description, depending on where you’re from. If you’re from NYC, you think Yonkers is upstate. For those of us in the Hudson Valley, a good starting point would be the 518 area code. The Albany TV channels didn’t really cover us down in Ulster County in their news broadcasts, while the NYC channels certainly didn’t. Cable systems, however, disproportionately carried the NYC channels.
And if you’re from someplace like Buffalo, you’d be Western New York, not upstate. Plattsburgh was the North Country, with Upstate being basically just the Capital District.
But generally, other than the politics-as-career or state government-sector workers, we shared a common dislike for New York City and the way they treat us as tax cattle.
Specifically to our portion of the state, New York City has most of its reservoirs in the Catskills, which results in all sorts of land-use restrictions on those of us in the watershed. But they think they can ruin rivers downstream of their reservoirs.
No consideration for our comfort. We’re just backward heathens to them.
from the link:
Reminiscent of radical feminist, communist, and fabulist Betty Friedan, who claimed to be similarly “oppressed”, in spite of having a housemaid while she pursued a career in journalism.
Hard core communist parents. But the fact that she was raised by her grandparents suggests a family which was “unstable” in other ways, too.
I’m a sucker for fairy lights. Ping.
Bless you, madam. Should a loud intestinal noise come from the other side of the room, where your beloved other is sitting, may said noise turn out to be coming from their phone, not their, er, person.
For those who missed it in the previous thread, some intestinal noises.
Don’t say I don’t spoil you.
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Just as the Poor Oppressed Person of Color got kicked off a train when he accidentally played loud music. Damn racists.
To be fair, I have encountered a few self-described libertarians who proudly refused to return grocery carts–while giving “reasons” why that was the right thing to do.
Well, it’s another of those Atlantic articles – now practically a genre – in which the familiar moral universe is pretty much inverted, and the reader is expected to feel warmth towards, and affinity with, someone who appears to be an insufferable narcissist. As if we should be uplifted by the stunning bravery of a self-involved woman casually shattering the lives of her three small children, and her husband, in order to concentrate on herself even more than before.
Because apparently, she was being oppressed by a life of ease – flicking through Instagram and chatting with the cleaner – and by the mere existence of a faithful, loving husband.
As I said in the linked post, it does rather suggest a psychological gulf – and moral gulf – that can exist between we, the unremarkable, and our glorious betters.
“We thought Charlie X was a cautionary tale. Instead, Charlie X was a prophecy. Foretelling a time six decades in the future, when our culture would be overrun with people just like Charlie X. Who are insufferable. And a menace to everyone around him.”
Anyone want to place bets on how many are dead or in prison within 5 years?
“A high school graduation for more than 100 Los Angeles County teenagers – including nearly 30 who are on probation – turned violent when a massive brawl broke out.”
Saying complaints about your anti social behaviour are really about race (not just you being a jerk) sounds passive-aggressive to me.
Well, yes. Quite.
But you mustn’t impact her comfort as a magical brown person. Albeit a rather pale brown person. A pale brown person who’s quite happy to impact the comfort of others. Say, by playing music in a library.
It’s a hallmark of the egotist that what they do to others is unacceptable when done to them. They either have no ability to empathize, or they do but they just don’t bother.
Out: Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
In: Anti-racism is the first refuge of a scoundrel.
As illustrated here many times, wokeness and reciprocation don’t seem to coexist at all happily. Put together, they seem to induce some kind of loud mental feedback.
Does it go RREEEEEEEE?
Heh. It would, I think, explain a lot.
It is telling that such activists cannot come up with actual examples of racism, such as lynchings or red-lining, and have to weep about the “oppression” of being quiet in a library, which at the same time tells us so much. The worst racist statements seem to come from woke activists, like claiming POC can’t find the voting booth or get ID to vote. Or, apparently, shut up.
Hence their insistence that the personal be political. It can’t be that they have their individual quirks, but hey, live and let live. It has to be MY CONCERNS ARE OF EPIC IMPORT.
That.
Our new friend Devon Eriksen weighs in:
Is some unscrupulous b@stard selling “iPhones” to Amish women? For shame.
*bangs head on desk*
Being “oppressed” now means “not getting everything you want all the time”.
And remember, Ms Gonzalez’ article is a curated piece, a “must-read,” selected by the editors of the Atlantic to entice and delight. Presumably on grounds that it aligns with the enlightened, progressive mindset of the magazine’s readers.
[ Slides beer mat in between desk and svh’s head to reduce noise. ]
Note also that decade after decade, feminists conveniently “forgot” to point out that Friedan actually lived a very luxurious and comfortable life.
[ Dull whumping continues. ]
Narcissism, resentment and hypocrisy.
from the link:
I fully support denying emergency services to such people and to their apologists: No ambulance or police or fire department when their lives are endangered.
Better to just run them over and give the drivers points.
Declare them to be outlaw.
You’re going to need more beer mats.
And beer, I suspect.
[ From cellar, sound of beer being watered down. ]
David: “At which point, I’m tempted to suggest that a more adventurous adolescence and some teenage experimentation might have saved a lot of later heartache.“
No, sorry, David. Statistically that doesn’t appear to be true. The “adventurous” and “experimental” teen girls are far more likely to turn into this type of bint.
I defer to your obvious expertise in the realm of wayward women.
Instalanche.
Can’t decide if the typo is funny or outrageous.
Definitely funny.
Glenn is way too busy blending puppies, to pay attention to trivia like copyediting. Besides, grammar is racust, innit.
Ah, the typo has now been corrected. My dignity is restored.
In this case it was Ed Driscoll, who is way too busy writing “classical reference in headline” until we all want to take him by the shoulders and yell at him.
Does that explain the slow response when I’d try to edit a comment or upvote somebody else’s comment?
Haven’t noticed an issue. Has anyone else had trouble?
One doesn’t need quiet to study, or need to study at all for that matter, when one is positioned to get the Affirmative Action “A”.
For some values of dignity.
Heh.
[ Reaches under bar, takes revolver out of ivory box. ]
The hamsters do need breaks sometime you know.
At least when the delivery of Purina hamster amphetamines is late.
[Sends revolver to be re-grooved.]
The upvote thing for me is rather painful. Usually takes three or four tries (so you people damn well better appreciate them..harrrumph). But I seem to be one of the few (5%! If David’s stat from weeks ago is recalled correctly) on an iPad. The few times I’ve been on my laptop using a proper mouse I don’t recall it being as much of an issue. I also was re-editing a comment earlier and somehow ended up with the same comment doubled and had to delete that part.
About 60% of you are reading this via desktop; 35% using a mobile device; and 5% using a tablet.
And yes, this will be on the test.
An hour or two ago it was taking over a minute for an upvote to be displayed, which led me to click the icon more than once.
That happened to me, too. I strongly suspect that it was related to how long it took the Edit button to respond (more than one minute, sometimes two.) But it’s better now (like the man who was turned into a newt) and it’s only a few seconds between clicking and seeing the edit dialog.
Windows desktop for me.
My pappy called that rifling.
[ Reaches under bar, takes revolver out of ivory box. ]
Revolver was a good album but I’m not sure it deserves the ivory box treatment.
[ Fetches darts, blowpipe. ]
About 60% of you are reading this via desktop; 35% using a mobile device; and 5% using a tablet.
I have a guy who sends it to me via tribal drums. Cuts down on the band width.
Forgive me, I didn’t get much sleep last night. I was on the phone until 5 a.m. with my internet provider trying to resolve an issue.
Steve E’s band is one of those 50s swing bands. Ten nattily dressed guys in two rows, with a conductor.
Well, of course. Ms Gonzalez is one of the Good People of the World, and thus doesn’t need to explain herself to you awful, awful racists. Bow down…!
“these students were implying that their comfort superseded our joy.”
And we all know, don’t we, that she complains out the other side of her pie hole about wypipo’s expressions of joy superseding her comfort.
IIRC, most of those who flunked out of college back in my day (there I said it) did so because they partied too much –ie they did not study. These were wipeepo so it is pretty much cause and effect.
(Not much “affirmative action” back then that admitted clearly unqualified students.)
Time for some gratuitous provocation…
[ Checks readiness of sandbags, canned goods. ]
It’s 95 Fahrenheit outside right now.
Am thankful that I can stay inside all day.
Am sorry for the HVAC crew that must go on the roof soon.
Steve E’s band is one of those 50s swing bands. Ten nattily dressed guys in two rows, with a conductor.
First row. Can you dig it?
I knew that you could.
For Steve E. Turn up the volume.
This is fun too, but nothing can beat the original.
Just now downstairs on my Windoze laptop/Chrome browser (what are the kool kidz using these days?) and it did take a few seconds to register the upvotes but I only had to click once and just wait. On the iPad (Chrome again), I have to “click” several times.
I believe I related here how I was “one more incident” from being tossed out of college because I was a victim of an incident of anti-Semitism perpetrated by a couple of Puerto Ricans in a BMW who ran me off the road while riding my bike home one night and the Jewish dean made one of those Solomon-mocking “both sides are to blame” decisions. Ah, good times. Good times.
One more data point supporting the contention that black racism has been increasing.
This is fun too, but nothing can beat the original.
Both of my sons were in a marching band. They did Sing, Sing, Sing and it was always a crowd pleaser. They didn’t have those dance moves though. Here they are in the 2018 Rose Parade in Pasadena. My youngest son is the tallest trombone player.
I’ve seen these guys a number of times live. The drummer is surrounded by plexiglass panels because he routinely shatters his drumsticks and the horn players were tired of getting hit in the back of the head.
Steve E, how’s your bandwidth holding up?
Sigh…Big Bad VD, Why me?
Steve E, how’s your bandwidth holding up?
Back with a vengeance. We pay for a Gig down and we’ve averaged 1.15 Gig today so far. My wife works from home and Monday is her busiest day. She facilitates three video conference meetings so we need reliable internet. That’s why I was up all night. I was trying to ensure we had service for the day. Starting Sunday night we were getting less than 1 per cent service. She had to go to a nearby relative’s house for the first half of the day. But they got things up and running again by 11:30 a.m.
Thanks for asking
They did Sing, Sing, Sing and it was always a crowd pleaser.
The definitive cover with Gene Krupa on drums...
New term dropped: colonial consciousness
They’re signals, clues. Data points. Again, people who don’t care about stopping their neighbours from studying or sleeping may not care about other things too. They may be happy to transgress other boundaries. And wanting to get away from that, and working hard to get away from that, isn’t snobbery or racism. It’s good sense.
As others have pointed out, Ms Gonzalez conjures a bizarrely romanticised vision of what endless, unwanted noise is actually like. Contra Ms Gonzalez, it isn’t often about vibrancy and joy, or some racially-affirming authenticity. It’s more commonly a result of neglected children, unsocialised dogs, selfish morons, competing strains of club music, sirens, crime, and general degradation. It’s about being denied sleep, or a few moments of peace, and being reminded, quite vividly, that the people around you just don’t care.
Sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture.