Reality Will Do That
Lifted from the comments, via pst314:
Ms Watson, now not so young herself, tells us,
The specifics of this pressure, allegedly pervasive, overpowering and entirely social in nature, are unclear. No examples are forthcoming. The physical realities of reproduction are, however, less mysterious.
The idea that Ms Watson, or likely anyone she knows, any of her multi-millionaire celebrity peers, is being pressured by others, by a brutal society, to get married and presumably have children – and that such hypothetical pressure constitutes “violence” – is, shall we say, difficult to believe.
It seems rather more likely that Ms Watson, 35, is, like many of her self-involved peers, struggling to process her own age-related anxieties. At 35, that fertility window is closing quite rapidly and options that have perhaps been taken for granted, or deferred as insufficiently fashionable, will soon expire.
As someone quips in reply,
Update, via the comments:
EmC adds,
Well, quite. I don’t follow these things closely, but my impression is that there’s a class dynamic in play. That, for some, getting married and having children during the window of optimal viability is now considered low-status, proletarian, somewhat déclassé, especially among women with progressive leanings.
As if this time were obviously better spent pursuing a statusful career and asserting some womanly empowerment, or, in Ms Watson’s case, indulging in activism of a faintly ludicrous kind, claiming to be “self-partnered” rather than single, and insisting that bewigged men are somehow women.
My impression of any social pressure, any class convention, is that it goes in a different direction to the one being claimed. At least among ladies of Ms Watson’s political persuasion. Readers may wish to speculate as to whether childlessness and middle-aged regret will also, in short order, be deemed “violence” and something to complain about during celebrity interviews.
And for some reason, this came to mind:
Something about the dynamic, perhaps.
Seen that too. It’s brilliant.
People born a 100 years ago had a somewhat different concept of violence as they stormed Normandy or innumerable pacific islands.
Car mechanics notoriously being rich, famous and beautiful.
I understand disingenuous argumentation is your stock in trade, but maybe leave it at Kate’s.
Now that I think about it, I’ve had something similar said about me, years ago, by someone who’d known me before I met The Other Half. Though it was said in earthier terms. I believe her exact words were, “You’re much less of a cunt now.”
Hey, we can’t all be picky when it comes to compliments.
She can always buy another cat.
“Take your solidarity and shove it”
There’s a trend in women nowadays that’s not gone unnoticed by men.
Many women believe that they should spend their twenties sleeping around, not making commitments, and then between thirty and thirty five, they can pick one of the numerous high value men roaming around and settle down with him, and have a few children.
Of course, he has to be financially successful enough to pay for fertility treatments for her, since her fertile years are behind her.
Not surprisingly, the high value man never appears, and they are left scrambling around to find a man who will wife them up. Even less surprising is that few men are interested.
Emma can be relieved by the fact that as a result of this, birth rates are down, and countries are importing huge swaths of men from countries which don’t have low birth rates. They often also don’t have a culture of respecting women, or taking “no” for an answer.
Pressure to get married disappears quite quickly in societies where women don’t get government benefits for illegitimate children.
Let us not forget those who believe men of high value and munificent incomes should not be put off by, nay, should welcome, women whose marketable skills are in inverse proportion to the number of fatherless children they have.
A cancer on the body politic.
Again, if it needs to be said again, which it does…again and again and again and again…again, scaring young people into believing that they must, absolutely *must* go to college or they will have a meaningless existence of drudgery at dead end jobs with miserly pay was the greatest destroyer of our otherwise sane and socially productive society. That and the displacement of classical literature for the endlessly navel gazing 20th century bullshit in our secondary school English classes. Fortunately most young men just took the D and moved on. Unfortunately most of the girls took that idiocy to heart.
Shockingly.
No, wait.
From the replies, “Their utopia can only exist in a world of one person.”
[ Considers adding “much less of a cunt now” to animated banner. ]
That British talent for understatement . . .
Based on what I’ve seen, I picture Bluesky as a balloon full of really angry wasps.
If you click through, it’s quite a rabbit hole. I mean, when you have to devise a “healthy discourse project” because your user base of lefties – who supposedly fled X to escape “toxic” normies – just won’t stop screaming the most unhinged abuse at each other. All the time.
Also, any mention of waffles is apparently “a Nazi dog-whistle.”
I wonder what Ms Watson thinks of those cultures where marriage at a (often very) young age really is violent, and where marital rape and wife beating are sanctioned by its holy orders?
Probably she is quite supportive of a new state encompassing said culture.
And on drugs. Remember those photos of webs made by spiders on various drugs?
Why? I don’t understand.
Why, it’s almost as if the problem was never the normies. Or indeed people who happen to like waffles.
Oh, you’ll just have to lower yourself down that particular rabbit hole.
Take sandwiches.
Please save me from that ordeal.
There’s always Larry Correia’s Krasnovian waffle hounds. (Banned from Facebook for his heroic struggle on behalf of the peaceful nation of Krasnovia, known for its sandwiches and waffles.)
What if . . .
I remember this.
You can find the photos here.
Rat:
” “We’re all in this together!” sang the soft, comfortable people, while the actual footsoldiers delivered their food and their goods, and kept the lights, water, and internet on.”
Every time someone says “lockdown” I respond with this. What lockdown? The “lockdown” was “successful” because it was essentially non-existent. A fantasy.
How many Hallmark movies begin with the premise of “city professional [man/woman] goes back to their small hometown [at Christmas, for a wedding, for a funeral] and runs into [old high school sweetheart, grandma’s landscaper, Uncle Jim’s young business partner] several times before they “click”.
I was impressed with her media savvy because she just got eviscerated by JK Rowling and now she’s got herself back in the news and nobody’s talking about that anymore.
Dem pols are openly telling cops to not assist ICE when ICE is attacked by a mob. Antifa/anti-ICE have bounties on ICE agents. Local pols are meeting with rioters (Karen Bass for example) and planning how to riot. This is getting pretty insurrectiony. They are openly violating federal law and ordering subordinates to violate federal law.
Is it too soon to use terms such as “treason”?
“What Puppygirls Know? The (in)Human Pedagogy of a Trans Feminine Style.”
It’s quite reassuring that utter (and stupid) narcissists like EW are not reproducing. We might have to endure their nonsense for another 40-60 years (groan) but at least those genes won’t be passed on!
Animal control is gonna need bigger cages.
“Vyacheslav Leontyev, the head of Pravda, has fallen to his death from apartment.”
“Is this true?”
“Yes. But it isn’t news.”
There is no truth in Feminist News. And no news in feminist truth.
It’s not violence. Pressure to pair up can be incredibly off-putting though.
I remember having learned to say, and said it on the day before I met my future husband, “The man I’ll marry has not been born, and his mother’s died.”
I wasn’t ruling out the possibility that I’d want to spend more time with a man than it took to be entertained for an evening, but I certainly didn’t want to settle down and have babies before I’d thoroughly enjoyed being single. Marriage seemed like something to do when one was too old to be asked for dates.
Obviously the man for me was one who wanted to share the things I wanted to do.
Almost right, except why “sleep around” and take chances on ruining it all with an unwanted pregnancy?
Then, define “high value men.” If you’re thinking “Men who have learned to clean up after themselves, who fit into a woman’s life and plans and actually add value rather than imagining that she’s going to drop everything for the sake of sex,” you might be right, since men who’ve learned these life lessons do tend to be over 30. If you’re thinking “college athletes who think they are attractive,” most of them are either married or divorced AND losing any visual appeal they once had, by age 30, and that’s a gain for the women who don’t get stuck with them or their neglected offspring.
Jordan Peterson is very ill. In the hospital. 🙁
Generally not a good way of looking at things. “Thoroughly enjoyed” generally means “until I’m at least 30 years old.”
Better approach: Treat dating not as “having fun” but as “looking for the right man (or woman) to marry”. Dating can also involve learning social skills, but its chief purpose should be finding that proper mate.
For women who think they can be party girls until they’re ready to settle down, “high value men” generally seems to mean “high income, high wealth” plus all the personality attributes which make a man a good long term mate.
For wiser women, who treat dating as the search for the right man to marry, “high value men” means men with all the right personality traits and skills for both marriage and financial success. In other words, a young man just starting out who shows promise.
I saw that too, on Despicable Me.
I’m still processing the idea that a great many people are looking for a partner by flicking through apps. Like shopping for shoes, or a washing machine.
When you try to pretend away fundamental realities, any reminder of those realities has to be censored, or at least shouted at quite loudly.
I’m assuming this was the scene that prompted the meltdown.
I think we’ll give that one a post of its own.
Comments that-a-way.
Priscilla King – you are the reason slut-shaming needs to come back in fashion