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Tim Newman on the bigotry of low expectations:
When I was in Melbourne, some government body or other put on a display of “Aboriginal culture” in Federation Square and advertised it all over town. I guessed in advance that it would consist of a bunch of primitives sat around bashing drums while metropolitan white folk looked on as if they were visiting a zoo. Child-like art would be on display wrapped in copious quantities of mumbo-jumbo. I passed by one Saturday afternoon and sure enough, that’s exactly what it was.
And somewhat related, William Buckner on the ‘noble savage’ fantasy, and the rather less charming realities:
Comparatively little attention has been given to the risk of ‘traveller’s diarrhoea’ common among hunter-gatherers. For mobile groups, infants, the elderly, and other vulnerable individuals have little opportunity to develop resistance to local pathogens. This may help explain why infant and child mortality among hunter-gatherers tends to be so high. Across hunter-gatherer societies, only about 57% of children born survive to the age of 15. Sedentary populations of forager-horticulturalists, and acculturated hunter-gatherers, have a greater number of children surviving into adulthood, with 64% and 67%, respectively, surviving to the age of 15.
Ah, but we must politely overlook the tedium and illiteracy, the malnutrition and dehydration, the alarming levels of child mortality, murder and infanticide, the sharply truncated lifespans, the child rape, and the delights of stone-age dentistry. We must see only how egalitarian and vibrant these exotic creatures are, if you squint and tilt your head, and then carefully turn away while the other stuff takes place.
And if you think such fantasies are confined to the distant past, consider the Utopian ruminations of Guardian columnist George Monbiot, whose urge to romanticise The Other – especially if The Other is brown and poor, and unable to challenge his bizarre worldview – is a thing to behold:
It is impossible not to notice that, in some of the poorest parts of the world, most people, most of the time, appear to be happier than we are. In southern Ethiopia, for example, the poorest half of the poorest nation on earth, the streets and fields crackle with laughter. In homes constructed from packing cases and palm leaves, people engage more freely, smile more often, express more affection than we do behind our double glazing, surrounded by remote controls.
That’s right. Forget about sanitation and drudgery, and the limited options in life. Think instead of how happy these Ethiopian peasants are, these beings we should emulate, with their quaint little shelters made of leaves and packing cases. It’s just so adorable. And not a single remote control to harsh the egalitarian buzz. Like his Guardian colleague Oliver James – another anhedonic hypocrite stressed by the contradictions of being a well-heeled middle-class lefty – Mr Monbiot wants us to believe that “wealth causes misery.” Yes, wealth is bad for “us” – by which of course he means bad for you.
As usual, feel free to share your own links and snippets, on any subject, in the comments.
Mr Monbiot wants us to believe that “wealth causes misery.”
I’d rather heed a genuinely poor, working class boy made good:
” I’ve been rich, I’ve been poor. Rich is better.” Michael Caine.
David Harsanyi on the reputational self-destruction of the mainstream media.
You don’t hear the word much any more but in the not too distant past the term “moonbat” was in common use to be crazy or insane. The word was coined as a play on George Monbiot’s name.
“I’ve been rich, I’ve been poor. Rich is better.” Michael Caine.
It is, I think, telling that proponents of the ‘noble savage’ fantasy tend to be people whose own upbringings were much more comfortable than my own, and presumably more comfortable than those of most people here, and whose experience of poverty is entirely theoretical.
Forget about sanitation and drudgery, and the limited options in life.

A few years ago, Mrs. Oik and I travelled to Botswana, where we went walking in the Kalahari with a clan of bushmen. They now live in government-provided housing with sanitation, but are able to demonstrate their centuries-old survival skills to tourists, such as this instance where the lady demonstrated that it was possible to extract half-digested berries from elephant poo which, when mixed with ashes, make a salve for treating insect bites. As our driver dropped us off I was only being semi-serious when I said to the missus sotto voce “Do you think it’s wise to go wandering about the desert with a bunch of half-naked savages?”.
For some reason, this came to mind.

Because if there’s one thing the destitute and homeless need, it’s a drum workshop.
An old favourite, probably from this blog… Wise Aboriginal Elders perform on QandA with Antony Hegarty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBIubgsfK8E
The other one that annoys me is the deference and official accommodation given to the performance of the Haka by South Pacific rugby teams. There’s no tradition worth preserving about a gang of men getting into the faces of a rival gang, puffing up their chests, gurning, and screaming threats. Seen outside the pub on Friday night, stripped of its exoticism, progressives recognize this as toxic masculinity, and in that case they happen to be correct. Sport used to be an alternative to those kinds of ugly displays (aggression was channeled into the space from the starting gun to the finish line, and competitors were gracious to each other outside that space), not a showcase and an endorsement.
On the subject of Hunter-Gatherers:
http://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/942151803528912896
via Obnoxio
We must see only how egalitarian and vibrant these exotic creatures are, if you squint and tilt your head, and then carefully turn away while the other stuff takes place.
That.
the Utopian ruminations of Guardian columnist George Monbiot, whose urge to romanticise The Other – especially if The Other is brown and poor, and unable to challenge his bizarre worldview – is a thing to behold
That too. 🙂
That too.
You do have to marvel at George’s readiness to tell other people how happy they really are, what with the terrible alienation caused by double glazing. And I suppose now’s a good time to revisit this revealing episode, in which Mr Monbiot encounters our own indigenous noble savages and things go badly wrong.
Re: Western Civilisation vs aboriginal hunter-gathering – has anyone, ever, voluntarily swapped the former for the latter?
And I don’t mean for a night or a week or the time it takes to film a documentary. When Moonbat and his moronic chums voluntarily adopt the lives of the peasants they claim to admire I might find their arguments more convincing. I’m sure there are plenty of Ethiopians who’d be happy to swap with him.
Re: The Noble Savage
I may have told this story before on these pages, and if so, my apologies. Some years back, my wife and I took in an exhibit of Plains Indian art work at the local museum. Lots of bead work representing horses and such, all decorating various implements, blankets and so forth.
Among the observers was a young mother loudly lecturing her daughter–and presumably the rest of us–about how marvelous the Plains “Horse Culture” was until “destroyed” by the evil White Menace.
I’d had enough. I mentioned that the horse came from the Spanish and the beads and iron implements on display came from the French. Also the Sioux Nations originated in the east and only migrated to the plains because they were forced out by the Algonquin and Iroquois.
She was not happy with me, but I felt very good.
Child-like art would be on display wrapped in copious quantities of mumbo-jumbo.
There is another side to this that the purveyors of the mumbo-jumbo fail to consider.
Back around 1930 somewhere, Robert Benchley, one of America’s great humorists (if you haven’t read him, you should) wrote the following (trying to find it on line is a fool’s errand, I managed to find the right book in my mess wedged between an FM and an Epidemiology text, don’t ask why):
Benchley’s commentary about modern art back in his day would fit well within these pages, regardless, submitted for your approval, art from the tomb of Nebamun. (go to link – way too big to post here)
Note that where as the humans are highly stylized, the birds, cat, and insects are “remarkably accurate and artistic”.
The point is that if the artist who made this painting can make realistic representations of animals, he could do the same with people, but it may well be that for religious, cultural, or whatever stylistic reasons, the Egyptians preferred the sort of 2-D style that the art “experts” assumed was “primitive”.
Same-same with any aboriginal art – Istanbul was Constantinople, maybe they just liked it better that way.
Meanwhile, speaking of primitive cultures and beliefs…
If the people studying hunter-gatherers really think the lifestyle so great, why do they come back? I mean other than for the short time necessary to persuade others to join them.
Perhaps one of the reasons why people in Ethiopia appear to be happier than we are…
That “appear to be” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in Monbiot’s pronouncement. Anyone who has lived in poverty, or at least experienced a period of being hard-up for money, and has worked long hours (at a thoroughly dispiriting job) to make ends meet will know that adopting a cheery attitude to life is a strategy to get you through the day. Life is bad enough without adopting an attitude that will make you, and those around you, even more miserable.
It is richer societies, such as ours, that enable and encourage the kind of self-absorption and hair-shirtiness displayed by Monbiot, Toynbee, Weir and all the other conceited bores of the patrician class.
It’s also important to note that whenever Monbiot bangs on about increasing wealth, he sees it in purely materialistic terms – people want more things. Well, certainly there are such acquisitive people (and good luck to them), but for the majority of us, we want to be richer so that we can reduce those lying-awake fears about how we’re going to manage in the future if we lose our jobs, or become sick, or if some other disaster befalls. We’d also like to look forward to a comfortable and safe old age, and increased leisure time, and so on. Perfectly respectable aspirations, you might say. If Monbiot were not such a professional spoilt brat, he might be able to see that. But alas, that’s the disdainful attitude that the establishment has for the lower orders (excepting a few discrete groups that they might find, from time to time, picturesque or deserving). And that Monbiot actually wants us all to be poorer, indicates to me at least, that he is not merely an air-headed, haute bourgeoisie show-off, but that he is fundamentally malicious and inhumane.
And that Monbiot actually wants us all to be poorer, indicates to me at least, that he is not merely an air-headed, haute bourgeoisie show-off, but that he is fundamentally malicious and inhumane.
I just thought that could stand repeating.
Reminds me of how the progressives in the US romanticize Native Americans, portraying them as living in absolute harmony with nature, and with other tribes, when in fact they exploited nature at every turn, and fought endlessly with other tribes.
…people engage more freely, smile more often, express more affection than we do behind our double glazing, surrounded by remote controls.
Projection.
Moonbat is clearly very unhappy, about pretty much everything, and can’t imagine anyone else in the modern West could feeling any different.
canminuteman,
The word was coined as a play on George Monbiot’s name.
Actually, no. Perry DeHavilland, the creator of the term, claims he was not thinking of the Graun’s professional frowner when he coined “barking moonbat”, but the similarity was a happy accident.
Projection.
Yes. Conscious lying is also very likely.
This shit has now gone too far…
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278
And I suppose now’s a good time to revisit this revealing episode, in which Mr Monbiot encounters our own indigenous noble savages and things go badly wrong.
Can anybody confirm or refute the following?
I was told that many years ago (1990’s?) there was a BBC documentary about the plight of the poor, misunderstood “Travelers”, in which it was claimed that they lived nomadic lives only because the Forces of Oppression prevented them from settling down in a community and getting permanent jobs. Furthermore, the widespread belief that they were thieves had no basis in fact but was only a manifestation of racism. It was suggested that the song “Go, Move, Shift” was written for that documentary.
There’s no tradition worth preserving about a gang of men getting into the faces of a rival gang, puffing up their chests, gurning, and screaming threats.
So WWE then?
Reminds me of how the progressives in the US romanticize Native Americans[…] when in fact they exploited nature at every turn, and fought endlessly with other tribes.
So this, then.
Reminds me of how the progressives in the US romanticize Native Americans
You can hear those romantic lies from Native Americans, too.
Projection.
Monbiot’s intentional self-descriptions are quite funny too. He refers to himself as both a liberal and an anarchist.
No laughing at the back.
In 2012, our progressive-egalitarian-liberal-anarchist dismissed those who disagree with him as morally and mentally inferior. “The other side,” he told us, is “on average more stupid than our own.” “Conservative ideology,” he added, “is the critical pathway from low intelligence to racism.” And all of this in contrast with noble beings such as himself, who are apparently “self-deprecating” and “too liberal for their own good.” And he says all this despite his nakedly authoritarian temperament, and despite the fact that every other Monbiot article is a demand that other people should be imposed upon gratuitously or treated as if they were particularly dim children.
David, from your “revealing episode” post:
Five years later, this still makes me laugh out loud.
You Brits seem to have a corner on the market for strange people…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-eat-mum-christmas-day-11706456
You Brits seem to have a corner on the market for strange people…
No, far from it. Consider, for instance, the American hippies who, after a woman gives birth, cook and eat the placenta.
There’s no tradition worth preserving about a gang of men getting into the faces of a rival gang, puffing up their chests, gurning, and screaming threats.
Fuck off RR. It’s not your tradition, so obviously you see no point in it.
The haka is centuries old, and very much not one of those made up “authentic” traditions. It is way older, for example, than kilts and tartans and all that faux Highland bullshit that Lowlanders go for.
The All Blacks have doing the haka for over 100 years. Flower of Scotland was written in 1974. So when Scotland meet NZ at rugby, should I insist that the Scots get rid of their ridiculously schmaltzy song on the basis that I don’t like it?
Sport used to be an alternative to those kinds of ugly displays
So a sport that is about channeling aggression is OK, but a dance before it isn’t?
That’s some impressive dissonance you have going on there!
I sure hope someone has explained to the mom-eating lady about kuru!
I sure hope someone has explained to the mom-eating lady about kuru!
Unless her mom was a child or lady tribesman from New Guinea and she ate her mom’s brain before the cremation, no danger there.
while metropolitan white folk looked on as if they were visiting a zoo
It’s the vibe. It’s why there’s always a part aboriginal kid being dragged in front of a crowd somewhere, to accept self-abasing pieties on behalf of “traditional custodians”, with all the enthusiasm of a shot down Naval Aviator admitting to air piracy.
I coulda sworn I read that the kuru prions can develop spontaneously; that’s where the first case in New Guinea seems to have come from, and then once they ate her, the thing snowballed. And I know I read that cremation does not render the brain material non-infectious. So if anybody is thinking “What a nice idea, maybe when Grandma dies…”. Don’t. Not because it’s weird, but because it could be dangerous.
And it IS weird, of course, but not necessarily any weirder than spending 5 figures on a box to bury. When Dad died in 2016, the most expensive coffin offered was $35K. (We didn’t buy it, partly because no one could afford it, partly because he’d made it clear not to waste a lot of money.)
And if you’re thinking what’s really weird is all that reading about kuru 😊, actually, it’s all that reading about autism, during the course of which, you pick up any number of interesting little neurological tidbits.
So a sport that is about channeling aggression is OK, but a dance before it isn’t?
It looks every bit as silly, put-on, and self-parodying as the WWE pre-match interviews.
I coulda sworn I read that the kuru prions can develop spontaneously…
Kuru is specific to a small area of New Guinea and is basically eradicated after eliminating cannibalism, however with an incubation of up to 50 years, it cannot yet be said to be eliminated for certain.
So, if nomadic hunter-gatherers are more happy, healthy and in tune with all the best of human existence, perhaps then we should stop worrying about the shopping cart pushing denizens of the camps in L.A. County.
It looks every bit as silly, put-on, and self-parodying as the WWE pre-match interviews.
So it’s “silly” and “threatening”? Nice!
Meanwhile Frenchmen in tears as they sing the Marseillaise (about butchering their enemies) before a football game is perfectly acceptable behaviour for grown men? And Brits crowding the streets to wave joyously at their grossly dysfunctional royal family’s birthdays is what any self-respecting country should do?
We all have our foibles, especially around symbols of national pride. I try not to mock others’ merely because they look odd to me.
The Haka is not just a pre-rugby ritual, evidently. I, for one, find it interesting and–gasp–fun to watch. Alas, it seems that everything these days, especially the interesting and fun stuff, absolutely must be deconstructed.
Kuru is specific to a small area of New Guinea and is basically eradicated after eliminating cannibalism, however with an incubation of up to 50 years, it cannot yet be said to be eliminated for certain.
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I like the haka too.
Only if you are able to find proteins in the resulting ashes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion
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Prefer the Fijians team sing-along before a rugby(league) game.
Exact opposite of the haka.
Projection.
The dishonesties that underpin these kinds of claims scarcely need pointing out, though some examples can be quite revealing of the mindset and the contortions it requires. The penultimate item here, for instance, regarding a non-existent aboriginal written language, suggests a collective dishonesty. Or at least a voluntary forgetfulness.
And likewise, when Emer O’Toole, a Guardian contributor and “post-colonial theorist” with mad skills in Gender Studies, wanted us to believe that all cultures, past and present, are equally vibrant and noble, except of course the culture in which she currently flourishes, and on which opprobrium must be heaped ostentatiously and often. Again, there’s an air of contrivance, of carefully avoiding the obvious.
Ms O’Toole bemoaned the colonial propagation of Shakespeare, whose works she denounced as “full of classism, sexism, racism and defunct social mores.” And worse, “a powerful tool of empire, transported to foreign climes along with the doctrine of European cultural superiority.” The possibility that at any given time one set of values and insights might be preferable to another, even objectively better and markedly so, is apparently something that a “post-colonial theorist” mustn’t think about.
Her article was accompanied by a photograph of New Zealand’s Ngakau Toa theatre company performing Troilus and Cressida in a distinctively Maori style. To me, it looked fun and worth the price of a ticket. But this cross-cultural fusion offended Ms O’Toole, who dismissed notions of the Bard’s universality as “uncomfortably colonial.” She then presumed to take umbrage on behalf of all past colonial subjects, whose own views on Shakespeare and literature she chose not to relate. She did, however, get quite upset about “our sense of cultural superiority” – a sense of superiority that, she insisted, has long been “disavowed by all but the crazies.”
With that in mind, and at risk of being indelicate, I can’t help wondering how Ms O’Toole might have felt had she been among the 19th century English colonists who encountered a Maori culture that was all but prehistoric, with no discernible literature or science, no enlightened gender politics, an average lifespan of about 30 years, and in which cannibalism was not unknown. Faced with such things – perhaps we could call them “defunct social mores” – I’m sure Ms O’Toole would have resisted the wicked urge to think herself a little more culturally advanced.
When not romanticising cultures in which she would be unlikely to survive for more than a three-day weekend, Ms O’Toole boasts of how her feminist boyfriends have thought her “brave” for retaining armpit hair.
Ms O’Toole boasts of how her feminist boyfriends have thought her “brave” for retaining armpit hair.
You could have stopped at ‘feminist boyfriends’.
You could have stopped at ‘feminist boyfriends’.
But it’s strange to watch these rhetorical dances, which suggest bad faith, a careful avoidance of certain, rather obvious implications.
And as Jacob pointed out at the time,
And yet Ms O’Toole’s views are not uncommon among her peers.
And speaking of those defunct social mores:
But hey, mustn’t judge.
Richard, that’s awful! I hope you stay well.
A possible alternative to eating Mom:
http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2017/12/holiday-gift-guide-2017_18.html?m=1