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I’m a little different. As a raving comic book geek (Yes, I also got the “…would be to court death” reference at the end of Avengers I) but also a fan of wider-ranging tastes, I’m not about to give a movie a pass just because it’s catering to my tastes. I’m a sysadmin, but I’ll freely admit that Harrison Ford’s Firewall was not a good movie.
There are already signs that the superhero genre is getting played out; Age of Ultron was a muddled mess of visual chaotica with too many subplots flying around, and Mardisvelney has used up all the A-list heroes and is digging into the B- and C-list characters that have no mythic resonance and that nobody knows.
The best observation I’ve heard came from a film review I’ve lost the link to: superhero movies are this generation’s 80’s action movies. The Arnie movies, the Rambos, the Die Hards, the JCVDs. Over-the-top, corny, splashy, fun but ultimately disposable.
superhero movies are this generation’s 80’s action movies… Over-the-top, corny, splashy, fun but ultimately disposable.
I don’t have a problem with films being disposable provided they’re sufficiently compelling while I’m watching them. There are very few films I go out of my way to watch twice. I can think of maybe a dozen. And as vices go, making something that entertains millions of people for a couple of hours, not including the pleasing anticipation, something that keeps hundreds of thousands of other people gainfully employed, isn’t that awful.
The Netflix Marvel series are well worth a watch. I’m not much of a superhero nerd, but they are startlingly moreish. They might even rise to the level of good drama in their own right.
This hero, right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM0NHRFgRHo
And it’s well into David’s Friday morning, and I need to get to bed.
31%
30%
Best review: “It’s like putting your head in a beehive for two and a half hours.”
Saw. Regretted. It’s a fucking omnishambles.
Sad Affleck.
There are very few films I go out of my way to watch twice. I can think of maybe a dozen.
I would enjoy seeing the list.
Oh.



Dear.
From today alone . . .
Albeit then an unrelated educational observation;
Sad Affleck.
Perfect.
quite a bit of dissonance and, at times, an unpleasantly nihilistic aftertaste.
E.g:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/25/zack-snyder-explains-the-shocking-thing-he-did-to-a-beloved-dc-character
And further . . .

Oh, and at least apparently holding at 30% . . . . .
…making something that entertains millions of people for a couple of hours[…] isn’t that awful.
Oh, don’t misunderstand me; look at how many of those 80’s action movies are cultural touchstones now. It just saddens me that given the stories that superhero movies could be making – they are, ultimately, the 20th-century expression of the Campbell Hero Myth – they’re choosing to default to slam-bang grimdarkery.
Look at Ant-Man: in amongst the coloured power suits, there’s a pretty good movie about blended families and what it’s like to be a father ejected from his own daughter’s life and the struggle to deal with that conflict. Using a superhero movie to do that is the ideal way to anchor that in a man’s POV instead of the usual female one.
Falling again. 29%
It just saddens me that given the stories that superhero movies could be making – they are, ultimately, the 20th-century expression of the Campbell Hero Myth – they’re choosing to default to slam-bang grimdarkery.
Yes, I think this is where Synder fails, quite badly, and to a lesser extent the Christopher Nolan films too, which, a few scenes aside, I didn’t much like. A lot of 90s comics were terrible for this reason too. Again, there’s a nihilism that jars and is quite at odds with notions of heroism and that aforementioned, rather important, sense of elation. Villains can be nihilistic, heroes not so much.
There’s a scene in the first Avengers film in which Tony Stark is hurled through the window of his penthouse and is falling to his apparent doom, pursued by an autonomous, somewhat tardy, suit of armour, which wraps itself around him as he falls. On one level it’s silly, but it’s a visually wonderful idea and seen for the first time in a cinema it’s quite thrilling, in fact elating. It works dramatically – which is to say, emotionally – because Tony Stark is a likeable character and we want him to survive.
Ditto the ‘barrel of monkeys’ scene in Iron Man 3, in which an explosion on Air Force One results in 13 passengers – more than our hero can carry – falling without parachutes from 30,000 feet. Naturally, an ingenious solution presents itself, albeit one that necessitates a bit of teamwork in difficult circumstances. That the solution is somewhat improbable in no way diminishes the spectacle and tension – and the elation when it (just barely) succeeds. Again, we, the audience, want the hero to prevail and so there’s an emotional pay-off. That’s what makes it exciting, suspenseful and fun.
This is the kind of basic stuff that Synder doesn’t do well, or even seem to understand.
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Late to the party as usual, but I have really enjoyed Gotham, which has proved to be quite startlingly strong stuff with some excellent casting.
Um.
I really enjoyed it…
Um. I really enjoyed it…
Glad to hear it. What are we missing?
What are we missing?
http://io9.gizmodo.com/batman-v-superman-spoiler-faq-of-justice-1767720335
Yes, I think this is where Snyder fails, quite badly, and to a lesser extent the Christopher Nolan films too, which, a few scenes aside, I didn’t much like.
I felt the same way. I binge-watched the trilogy again recently, and as much as I wanted to like them, watching with a critical eye rather than a fanboy eye I kept wondering exactly what it was Nolan was trying to say about Batman or heroism in general. The movies are quite muddled about Batman’s moral compass and the message they’re trying to impart in general. There are a number of possible arguments one can make, but one shouldn’t have to, I don’t think. Superhero stories are morality plays, and you can’t execute a morality play if the audience never quite grasps what the moral is.
I think the sublime Not Getting It moment for me was the end of Batman Begins’ “I won’t kill you…but I don’t have to save you” moment. One can make good arguments for Batman, the DC Universe’s Cthonic icon of remorseless justice, either being okay with killing or never being okay with killing, but one thing Batman doesn’t do is split hairs like that. That kind of legal semanticism is anathema to the entire character.
As for Superman…DC has spent so many decades besmirching the character because modern comic book writers can’t accept the notion of an incorruptibly good and noble hero that I don’t think there’s any way back. Snyder clearly just doesn’t like Superman. Just the amount of screen time lavished on Batman is proof of that. And despite being a lifelong Superman fanboy, I still have no idea what the hell Sir Christopher Wren has to do with the Superman mythos.
[ Reads spoiler FAQ ]
Wow.
I think the sublime Not Getting It moment for me was the end of Batman Begins’ “I won’t kill you…but I don’t have to save you” moment.
Had to do a bit of Googlemancy, and . . .
In that issue, The Batman takes three steps into a tent, knocks R’as al Ghul ass over teakettle, and is last seen dragging al Ghul off somewhere unspecified, where I think—I’ll let someone else do that Googlemancy—the next time that al Ghul is seen in the stories, he’s very much alive, having wound up all the way off in a prison cell in Gotham City . . .
http://io9.gizmodo.com/batman-v-superman-spoiler-faq-of-justice-1767720335
Hmmmm . . . . Skimmed through bits and pieces . . . for a train wreck viewing variety of attendance, I do note that I have a matinee showing available nearby . . .
—Went to see Gods Of Egypt for just the same reason . . . Now as far as demonstrating utterly energetic cluelessness, that one managed to make the Marvel comics grasp of Norse mythology almost plausible . . .
[ Spoiler FAQ ]
You know, I hate smarmy millenial snark like this because it’s lazy. Literally everything the FAQ says “wasn’t explained in the film!” was damn well explained in the film if you were paying any attention. I’m not going to argue the film was bad, but for heaven’s sake, let’s be fair about how it was bad.
. . . for a train wreck viewing variety of attendance, I do note that I have a matinee showing available nearby . . .
Oh, dear.
—Yes I bloody well did make the point of catching a matinee . . .
Sooo, as noted above, Prometheus gets 73% on Tomatoes because of cinematography by Ridley Scott.
In bvs, not only does the script make even less sense than even Prometheus, the cinematography sucks.
Therefore, what’s the point of making bvs, aside from blowing $250,000,000? Actually, that’s easy to answer: The only point of bvs is to be a standard production staff employment project, so that anyone named in the credits got to have a paycheck, where if any profit turns up, that’s a bonus.
Literally everything the FAQ says “wasn’t explained in the film!” was damn well explained in the film if you were paying any attention.
Ahhhh . . . Scuzzi? I was paying very close attention, just like the writer of the FAQ, and quite actually the FAQ is utterly accurate, now that I’ve read through it all.
. . . damn well explained?!?!?!!
‘k, to pick just one bit of total cinematic gibberish, where was there any explanation of that bit with what was supposed to be The Flash?—Particularly noting that one can only do such an I.D. by A) being a viewer of the movie, who B) has read a number of the comics . . . .